Political Roundtable Part XXXI

[Zonkerbl]

Haha Sarah Palin lost to a native American Democrat

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[Pointgod]

Haha Sarah Palin lost to a native American Democrat

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[Zonkerbl]

Palin's Republican opponent:

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Palin's Republican opponent:

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Interesting, probably smart move from him. Position himself as the less extreme Republican to Palin to pick up the first place votes in November. Notice he didn’t claim the election was stolen or massive voter fraud? Another L for a Trump endorsee.

[closg00]

Wow the VP of Argentina is the luckiest woman in the world.

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[Zonkerbl]

Wow the VP of Argentina is the luckiest woman in the world.

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holy crap

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[Wizardspride]

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[dobrojim]

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It's really no surprise given what a poor witness he's previously been for his own
cause that seemingly every time he's opened his mouth since the search warrant
was executed, he's made his situation worse.

I'm not sure why we (actually DOJ) has/have a policy that means he won't be charged
until after the Nov election.

[pancakes3]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/right-wing-twitter-trolls-including-josh-hawley-push-a-dumb-new-scotus-leaker-conspiracy

pieces of crap.

[Wizardspride]

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[Zonkerbl]

Ok ok it's incredibly surprising that Biden called MAGA supporters semi-fascists. This is your daily reminder, however, to criticize policies/choices and not people. People who come in this country applying for asylum are not "illegals" and people who vote for fascist politicians because they're brainwashed by fox news are not "deplorables", they're victims, maybe, that have made bad choices at the urging of their billionaire puppetmasters. But everyone is capable of confessing their sins and repenting. People aren't inherently good or bad. Their choices are. It's just the bad choices are the easy ones, unfortunately.

I think it's fair to call elected officials fascists I guess. It's a rough and tumble business.

[Wizardspride]

Ok ok it's incredibly surprising that Biden called MAGA supporters semi-fascists. This is your daily reminder, however, to criticize policies/choices and not people. People who come in this country applying for asylum are not "illegals" and people who vote for fascist politicians because they're brainwashed by fox news are not "deplorables", they're victims, maybe, that have made bad choices at the urging of their billionaire puppetmasters. But everyone is capable of confessing their sins and repenting. People aren't inherently good or bad. Their choices are. It's just the bad choices are the easy ones, unfortunately.

I think it's fair to call elected officials fascists I guess. It's a rough and tumble business.

I have to respectfully disagree with you.

HRC was right: They are deplorable.

Biden was right: At this point MAGA supporters are semi-fascists.

Don't care if they are brainwashed: If you still vote Republican at this point I just assume you're a fascist, a racist and have issues with women.

I'm done coddling traitors.

MAGA/Republican party as a whole are basically the old Confederacy.

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Ok ok it's incredibly surprising that Biden called MAGA supporters semi-fascists. This is your daily reminder, however, to criticize policies/choices and not people. People who come in this country applying for asylum are not "illegals" and people who vote for fascist politicians because they're brainwashed by fox news are not "deplorables", they're victims, maybe, that have made bad choices at the urging of their billionaire puppetmasters. But everyone is capable of confessing their sins and repenting. People aren't inherently good or bad. Their choices are. It's just the bad choices are the easy ones, unfortunately.

I think it's fair to call elected officials fascists I guess. It's a rough and tumble business.

Important to remember context is key and a lot of it is purposely left out to fuel right wing lies.

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[Zonkerbl]

Well, we have to live with these people. If you assume we can't secede because that would just be abandoning a lot of good people to fascism, then once we defeat fascism we have to live with the former fascists. Practically speaking I mean you can't just execute them all for being evil people. Are you going to put them in concentration camps? Or do you give them the opportunity to reject their evil ways and become useful members of society again?

Funny thing is I'll bet they'll do the same to us if they destroy Democracy, institute anti-CRT thought police and jail everyone they disagree with and give them the "opportunity" to "reject their evil ways" too. I'm not saying I trust them or anything, it's just hard to convince people to stop making evil choices if you tell them they are inherently evil and thus incapable of choosing anything but evil.

I mean I get that everyone in this thread is sick and tired of trying to convince people who don't want to be convinced. We are certainly past the point of trying to persuade the MAGA brainwashees. So in a sense it doesn't really matter, at this particular juncture. But just bear in mind what our vision is of victory. It's not mass execution and/or imprisonment of our political enemies, right? We hold them accountable for their *crimes* and if they repent and beg forgiveness then we forgive them, like good ethical people do. If they go back to choosing evil we hold them accountable again. I don't think there's really any other way out of this mess. I hope it works.

Trick is to avoid surrender through victory like we did after the Civil War. We didn't hold *anybody* accountable. And look what that got us. So I'm fine with stricter terms of surrender this time. Let's just not overdo it.

[dobrojim]

No executions or internments. Unless they become violent in which case imprisonment
should absolutely be on the table. Violence is generally a criminal act.

But I've been saying the behavior fits the definition of fascist to a T for a while.
We should be explicit about that fact this actually IS fascism
(authoritarianism upheld by threats of or actual violence.

Speaking of imprisonment, the ex Marine ex NYC cop who was notably 'active'
on Jan 6 got a ten year sentence and the guidelines would have allowed for more.

[Zonkerbl]

Ok i see where you're going. The policies are fascist. So the Republican party is fascist, and if you choose to be a member of the party, that makes you a fascist. Fair enough, I think the same logic applied to the Nazis.

[Scarletfire81]

Biden calls the other side fascist but he would of forced everyone to get the jab if he could of. Also he calls the other side conspiracy theorist but yet the left believes every wild conspiracy about Trump. He’s says the other side won’t accept the election results but the democrats cried Russia interference for 4 years. Hypocrisy at its finest.

[Zonkerbl]

look everyone a fascist