The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread

[20MexicanosIn1Van]

Haha, what's up with all these Lakers telling our guys what to buy?

Artest to Javale: "Buy a Play Station"

Kobe to Wall: "Buy Nikes"

[hands11]

Saw this on the GB, and literally had me laughing.......a quote from Ron Artest last night about Javale McGee......gotta love Artest.

"He potentially could be a really good player," Artest said of McGee. "I think he got to go to school a little bit more. He's got to work on that IQ a little bit. He got to watch more tape. I don't think he watches tape. I think he plays video games. I do. I don't think he watches tape. I think he plays video games and I think he could possibly have an Atari. He should upgrade to a PlayStation."

That is really great stuff. Thanks Ron. Much appreciated. Hopefully McGee reads this. If true, he should be embarrassed that it is so obvious that other player can see it.

That said, I think McGee has made progress this year. But I want more of that huge rebounding games he did when he was on a role. I want to see he want to dominate again.

[Ruzious]

Jav has made progress, but... I don't think we can count on him or Blatche ever being big-time players. I don't completely give up hope it happens for either, but it would be a surprise. I don't worry about how they rank compared to other starters; I worry about them learning how to help their team win games.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Javale McGee is 23 years old. Javale's very good at offensive rebounding and at blocking shots.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eja01.html

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Appearances on Leaderboards, Awards, and HonorsGlossary

Field Goal Pct            2010-11 NBA .576 (8)
Offensive Rebounds        2010-11 NBA 89 (7)
Blocks                    2010-11 NBA 53 (7)
Blocks Per Game           2010-11 NBA 2.3 (5)
Offensive Rebound Pct     2010-11 NBA 15.6 (1)
Block Pct                 2009-10 NBA 8.0 (1)  2010-11 NBA 6.2 (6)


AS OF 12/16 JAVALE MCGEE IS THE BEST OFFENSIVE REBOUNDER IN THE NBA.


.... Flip wants to bench him.

I think the coach is mistaken and needs to be replaced.

[Silvie Lysandra]

Flip Saunders will make a real nice offensive assistant...but he's not a very good head coach. Grunfeld, and Leonsis, erred mightily in not firing him for Tom Thibodeau (and we must question whether our hopes in Leonsis were misplaced).

[Ruzious]

Javale made an amazing block on one of the little Houston guards behind the 3 point line last night. And Phil Chenier made a great point - The fact that he showed he can do that means he doesn't have to jump out at shooters every time. The threat of him doing it can change their shots, and that's as good as a block. But when he goes for every fake, he hurts the team. If that ever sinks in, he'll go from a negative to a positive on defense. I'm sure the Wiz coaches are working with him on understanding when to go for the block and when not to. It's on both the coaches and Javale to figure it out.

[Zonkerbl]

Javale McGee is 23 years old. Javale's very good at offensive rebounding and at blocking shots.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eja01.html

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Appearances on Leaderboards, Awards, and HonorsGlossary

Field Goal Pct            2010-11 NBA .576 (8)
Offensive Rebounds        2010-11 NBA 89 (7)
Blocks                    2010-11 NBA 53 (7)
Blocks Per Game           2010-11 NBA 2.3 (5)
Offensive Rebound Pct     2010-11 NBA 15.6 (1)
Block Pct                 2009-10 NBA 8.0 (1)  2010-11 NBA 6.2 (6)


AS OF 12/16 JAVALE MCGEE IS THE BEST OFFENSIVE REBOUNDER IN THE NBA.


.... Flip wants to bench him.

I think the coach is mistaken and needs to be replaced.

Meh. Offensive rebound numbers don't excite me. There's lots of ways having a lot of offensive rebounds can be a bad thing.

Causing your opponent to miss and collecting the defensive rebound. That's the most exciting statistic for me. Combine good stats like that with high offensive rebound numbers and we'll talk.

[WizarDynasty]

i will be impressed when Javale starts forcing guards to pass and actually blocking whoever received the passes shot. Javale is never positioning himself to block whoever receives the pass.

it just seems mentally lazy, he will switch off to help whoever got beat and just completely forgets about the opening that is created when he leaves his man.

now if he fakes blocking the guard forcing the guard to pass and his fake block he quickly gets in position to stop the man who received the ball without fouling, that's when i will be impressed.
When Javale is able to force a guard to pass and anticipate who receives the pass and then stop that guy without fouling, that's when i will be impressed.

[BadWolf]

RIP bigdaddywookie

[keynote]

From Insider:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizard ... bbert.html

"I was really proud of JaVale," said Wizards assistant coach Randy Wittman, who was filling in for Flip Saunders while he attended to a family emergency. "He came in tonight and played Hibbert as good as we've seen leading up to this game and watching tape on him."

"I was watching film on him," McGee said. "So I was definitely just seeing what he does in the post, and I was trying to front him every time so he really didn't have a lot of touches in the post. That was the game plan, just stop Hibbert and go out there and try to work as hard as we can on defense, and that's what we did."

This is music to my ears. I figured the only films JaVale watched were produced by Japanese anime studios. But to hear him talk about watching game film, learning a game plan, and executing it? Hopefully, this inspires him to do more of that. Maybe watching those dusty clips of Jabbar in the post won't seem so boring after all.

[Ruzious]

From Insider:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizard ... bbert.html

"I was really proud of JaVale," said Wizards assistant coach Randy Wittman, who was filling in for Flip Saunders while he attended to a family emergency. "He came in tonight and played Hibbert as good as we've seen leading up to this game and watching tape on him."

"I was watching film on him," McGee said. "So I was definitely just seeing what he does in the post, and I was trying to front him every time so he really didn't have a lot of touches in the post. That was the game plan, just stop Hibbert and go out there and try to work as hard as we can on defense, and that's what we did."

This is music to my ears. I figured the only films JaVale watched were produced by Japanese anime studios. But to hear him talk about watching game film, learning a game plan, and executing it? Hopefully, this inspires him to do more of that. Maybe watching those dusty clips of Jabbar in the post won't seem so boring after all.

Amen. And he has been taking more hook shots lately - variations of the sky hook. They haven't all been pretty, but with a LOT of practice, he could have his go-to move.

[nate33]

Had to go deep to bump this thread. I was tired of seeing the Amazingly Sucky Javale McGee thread on the front page when the guy has been playing great lately.

Here are McGee's pace-adjusted per-36 stats for the past 10 games:

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Player           PTS  REB  AST  STL  BLK   TO  FTA eFG%  TS%  PER
mcgee,javale    16.3 10.8  0.9  0.6  2.9  1.2  4.5 .579 .602 22.5

16, 11 and 3 with a 60% TS% and a PER of 22? Are you kidding me?

These are McGee's pace-adjusted per-36 numbers for his career:

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mcgee,jav  PTS  REB  AST  STL  BLK   TO   PF  TS%  MIN  PER
2010-11   12.8 10.3  0.6  0.7  3.1  1.5  3.6 .566 28.0 17.9
2009-10   14.3  9.0  0.5  0.6  3.8  1.9  4.5 .539 16.4 17.2
2008-09   15.3  9.5  0.7  1.0  2.3  1.9  4.9 .530 15.0 16.9

The trend here is fabulous. More rebounds, fewer turnovers, better scoring efficiency and fewer fouls; all while playing a lot more minutes. Keep it up big fella. I think you're turning the corner.

[dobrojim]

good move - I'm encouraged more than anything else by
his not biting on every pump fake. He seems to have
finally realized that he can still get a block without
having to jump before the off player jumps.

[closg00]

Thanks Nate, this thread should have been bumped long-ago.

[Zonkerbl]

Practice practice practice! And props to Flip for chipping away at that granite wall until it broke.

[tontoz]

It is defintely a welcome sight to see him make legit post moves and stay down on pump fakes. He looks like a different player than the one we saw two months ago.

[Illuminaire]

What is this strange, warm feeling in my chest? Could it be.... darest it be... hope?

Go McGee!

[Hoopalotta]

Assuming such a thing is possible given the looming work stoppage, I'd look into what Javale wants in a contract extension this summer/fall/whenever.

You look at Rondo, Horford and Noah and each of those dudes would have been hit with the max had they hit the free market when their rookie deals were up, so they generally got about $20-27 million less in the extension. My recollection is that negotiations in '09 saw Rudy Gay wanting $65 and the Griz offering $60; that one ended in the max too. Those are higher profile players than Javale, but Tyrus Thomas would be another case: the Bobbles hit him with $40 million so as to keep him off the market.

I'd just as soon be proactive if we were looking at semi-reasonable numbers in a deal as I suspect that Javale's upside and length at the center position will get hit with an absurd offer, though there's a fair chance that he breaks out and is getting that offer based on real production too. There is a definite danger to hedging on this one to where I'd almost rather trade McGee at the draft rather than see him in the 2012 market; my spider sense is tingling on that one.

As to the production, it's the defense that inspires confidence. The scoring 's nice, but I don't think it's a polar divide between winning and loosening. He is really starting to bottle up the lane with a lot more acumen and awareness, though. You compliment what he does off the weakside with the proper personnel and you could have a top 10 defense IMO.

[nate33]

It's worth looking into, but I suspect McGee's esteem of his own game exceeds his actual production. My guess is that his asking price would be way high.

[BigA]

It's interesting that McGee had a quantum leap in effectiveness at the end of last season in the role of playing 20-25 minutes a game as a backup.