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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#861 » by prime1time » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:17 am

prime1time wrote:The case for Rui has always been a simple one. To survive in the NBA he needs to make 3's. 27.8% from 3 during February won't get it done. At the same time, the Lakers are a team in disarray. They've completely overhauled their roster during the middle of the year. Guys have no chemistry and are figuring everything out on the fly.

Lol, I've been here when he struggles and when he has success. That's from several weeks ago.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#862 » by prime1time » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:40 am

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prime1time wrote:+20 in a must-win play-in game. I was told that he wasn't a winning basketball player. 2-5 from 3. I've said the same thing since we drafted him. He plays well with stars that need floor spacing.

I note you didn't post anything over the last three games when Rui totaled 11-27 from the floor and 1-8 from the 3-point line.

This is why I love this board. You guys scream from the mountaintop that you're not Rui haters, but even the slightest amount of success that Rui has, gets under your skin. Like the dude has a good game solely because he wishes to negatively impact your day. It's always funny to see how smart people perceive the world. You saw my post. Then quickly went to his stats to determine a data set that would cast Rui in a bad light. In between that 3 game stretch, Hachimura had a 5-8 night against Phoenix and was +17. And the two games before that Rui went 7/11 and 10/14 (where he put up 20 and 12 with 3 blocks). Overall after a bad February where he shot 27.8% from 3, something that I pointed out I might add, Hachimura shot 37% from 3 in March.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#863 » by prime1time » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:57 am

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prime1time wrote:+20 in a must-win play-in game. I was told that he wasn't a winning basketball player. 2-5 from 3. I've said the same thing since we drafted him. He plays well with stars that need floor spacing.

I note you didn't post anything over the last three games when Rui totaled 11-27 from the floor and 1-8 from the 3-point line.


It’s all getting so tiring.

It's tiring because you're a hater lol
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#864 » by nate33 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:29 pm

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prime1time wrote:+20 in a must-win play-in game. I was told that he wasn't a winning basketball player. 2-5 from 3. I've said the same thing since we drafted him. He plays well with stars that need floor spacing.

I note you didn't post anything over the last three games when Rui totaled 11-27 from the floor and 1-8 from the 3-point line.

This is why I love this board. You guys scream from the mountaintop that you're not Rui haters, but even the slightest amount of success that Rui has, gets under your skin. Like the dude has a good game solely because he wishes to negatively impact your day. It's always funny to see how smart people perceive the world. You saw my post. Then quickly went to his stats to determine a data set that would cast Rui in a bad light. In between that 3 game stretch, Hachimura had a 5-8 night against Phoenix and was +17. And the two games before that Rui went 7/11 and 10/14 (where he put up 20 and 12 with 3 blocks). Overall after a bad February where he shot 27.8% from 3, something that I pointed out I might add, Hachimura shot 37% from 3 in March.

I'm not a hater. I just reject your narrative that Rui that the Wizards blew his development and he is now awesome since becoming a Laker.

Rui is the same player. He was never horrible here, but he was never very good either. He had some stretches of hot shooting that got us excited, followed by stretches where he was pretty invisible. He is doing the same thing in LA. Rui will have a long career in this league as a rotation player. I think he is a 7th/8th man caliber player for the most part. On a team lacking depth, he may even start. But on a team with good depth, like, say, Boston, he might not get regular minutes.

Ultimately, guys like that are always available for MLE money, so there isn't a lot of value keeping them around beyond their rookie deals. Trading him for three 2nd round picks was a good move.
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Post#865 » by Dat2U » Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:51 pm

I'm a hater because I have enough common sense to recognize Rui can play the game of basketball at a high level but is not a very good basketball player. Part of being a good player is displaying consistency. Most NBA guys can shine for a night or two when they are feeling good. Putting it together on a consistent basis is a true indicator of usefulness however.
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Post#866 » by payitforward » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:14 pm

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FAH1223 wrote:Rui had a DNP today in LeBron's return.


Any chance he comes back to Washington?

Ticket sales might increase significantly when Rui plays Brandon Clarke.

I see him signing with Memphis, where fans in droves will watch the two of them in shootaround.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#867 » by payitforward » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:44 pm

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prime1time wrote:+20 in a must-win play-in game. I was told that he wasn't a winning basketball player. 2-5 from 3. I've said the same thing since we drafted him. He plays well with stars that need floor spacing.

I note you didn't post anything over the last three games when Rui totaled 11-27 from the floor and 1-8 from the 3-point line.

This is why I love this board. You guys scream from the mountaintop that you're not Rui haters, but even the slightest amount of success that Rui has, gets under your skin. Like the dude has a good game solely because he wishes to negatively impact your day. It's always funny to see how smart people perceive the world. You saw my post. Then quickly went to his stats to determine a data set that would cast Rui in a bad light. In between that 3 game stretch, Hachimura had a 5-8 night against Phoenix and was +17. And the two games before that Rui went 7/11 and 10/14 (where he put up 20 and 12 with 3 blocks). Overall after a bad February where he shot 27.8% from 3, something that I pointed out I might add, Hachimura shot 37% from 3 in March.

It's really nice to see Rui have some success. Why would anyone want anything but success for the kid?

Overall, Rui's 650 regular season minutes with the Lakers was the best stretch of his career. &, obviously, it came at the right time. He wasn't great, but it's enough minutes to be happy seeing a higher level of productivity.

He didn't have a particularly good play-in game vs. Minny, however. 12 points on 8 shots & 4 FTAs is good, but 2 boards & 2 TOs in 27 minutes isn't.

Above all, what good you think this so-called "haters" narrative accomplishes I do not know. Rui wasn't a good player for us. When we went out to trade him, he didn't bring much. All the same, the better a career he has the happier I'll be about it -- why would anyone want to see a young kid fail, I wonder?
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Post#868 » by tleikheen » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:57 pm

Remember we traded Rui for Kendrick NONE because WUJ didnt want him
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Post#869 » by Halcyon » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:57 pm

Rui is ballin. Glad we got Nunn and 2nd rounders Tommy will squander!

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Post#870 » by tleikheen » Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:36 pm

When the lights are brightest ....the player the Wizards dumped ...... scores 29 pts in 30 minutes AND closing the game for the Lakers ....use to be a Wizard Rui Hachimura ..... by the way he's only 25 yrs old
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Post#871 » by nate33 » Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:50 pm

Just checking in to accept my beating from prime1time.
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Post#872 » by JWizmentality » Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:59 pm

nate33 wrote:Just checking in to accept my beating from prime1time.


Good man, hope you brought lube.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#873 » by AFM » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:35 pm

#sowizards it’s poetic my guys
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#874 » by tleikheen » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:39 pm

Just checking in to accept my beating from prime1time.


Youve always been one of the most vocal with your phony ass stats of how bad Rui was .... you never factored in who he played with and who he didnt get to play with . You were silent/complicit on the dog whistles on Rui's intelligence and even now youd be writing how he only got one assist this game as if he played poorly and was a black hole on offense . Scoring 3 levels is at a premium and the Lakers seem to value that more than you and alot of Rui haters do here .
In a big playoff game Rui picked up right where he left off since his last playoff series and even played better.Stats you'll never be able to tarnish.
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Post#875 » by AFM » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:42 pm

Anyone know what this guy is constantly talking about? Put the bong down.
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Post#876 » by JWizmentality » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:43 pm

tleikheen wrote:
Just checking in to accept my beating from prime1time.


Youve always been one of the most vocal with your phony ass stats of how bad Rui was .... you never factored in who he played with and who he didnt get to play with . You were silent/complicit on the dog whistles on Rui's intelligence and even now youd be writing how he only got one assist this game as if he played poorly and was a black hole on offense . Scoring 3 levels is at a premium and the Lakers seem to value that more than you and alot of Rui haters do here .
In a big playoff game Rui picked up right where he left off since his last playoff series and even played better.Stats you'll never be able to tarnish.


Nah, nate argues in good faith. Except in politics.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#877 » by AFM » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:46 pm

The ignore button is your friend here
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Post#878 » by tleikheen » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:54 pm

@LakersReporter
Rui Hachimura: “Since I got here, this team really believes in me … (it makes me) very confident and comfortable.”

He added that watching film with assistant coach Phil Handy has been huge, with Handy pointing out the types of shots he needs to be ready to take.

Feels like he means Wes Unseld Jr .....
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Post#879 » by Jimmy Recard » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:59 pm

3 second round picks and Kendrick freaking Nunn :nonono:
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#880 » by DCZards » Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:12 pm

tleikheen wrote:
Just checking in to accept my beating from prime1time.


Youve always been one of the most vocal with your phony ass stats of how bad Rui was .... you never factored in who he played with and who he didnt get to play with . You were silent/complicit on the dog whistles on Rui's intelligence and even now youd be writing how he only got one assist this game as if he played poorly and was a black hole on offense . Scoring 3 levels is at a premium and the Lakers seem to value that more than you and alot of Rui haters do here .
In a big playoff game Rui picked up right where he left off since his last playoff series and even played better.Stats you'll never be able to tarnish.

You can't be referring to nate33. He may be the fairest person on this board. I don't think I've ever seen Nate criticize a player (or another poster) without backing it up with well-documented facts.

Kudos to Rui. He was outstanding today. If there's one thing Rui usually does well it's shoot the ball, especially 3pters.

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