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Post#881 » by omegatronic3 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:58 am

I looked at Otto Porter highlight reel from last year and I didn't see one dunk....it was basically a bunch of mid range jump shots. I think we'll find out pretty soon if hes bust city. He should at least show a flash here and there of what he can do if hes gonna be worth a damn. Is he Bruce Bowen or Tayshawn Prince or is he Jared Jeffries with less handles? We've seen enough to know he doesnt have all star potential.

On the bright side it took Durant a year to show what he can do.and Anthony Davis didnt exactly light it up last year.

The thing that bugs me about Porter is that hes too mild mannered and seems too content to make excuses. I wanna see some swagger and hunger out there. Hes seemes reconciled to the fact that hes gonna be slow to develop. He looks nervous with his face all broken out. Remember Kwame when he always looked like he was about to **** himself.
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Post#882 » by 80sballboy » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:06 am

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stevemcqueen1 wrote:Ariza is getting the best looks of his career. He should give Wall a commission from his next contract because Wall is making him some money.

Lots of our wing shooters are making hay because of Wall. He's massively important. We won't even come close to playing .500 ball if he goes down, even if we had everyone else healthy.


It would be a blessing in disguise make the team have a Chicago situation they gotta step it up and Beal would be forced to improve his handles.


It's not his shot selection that's the problem. Without Webster, Nene and Beal, he has to shoot. It's the mindless, unforced turnovers that have bothered me about the guy since Day 1. If he limited his dribbling when he's being closely guarded, he would be a perfect player.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#883 » by Wizardspride » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:32 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... is-rhythm/

Wizards’ Otto Porter still looking to regain his rhythm

In his NBA debut, Otto Porter Jr. was so overcome with nerves that he was destined to make a few blunders. I

In his second game, Porter didn’t make any egregious mistakes because he was rarely near the ball.

Porter was a non-factor in seven minutes on the floor in the Wizards’ 75-74 loss to the Denver Nuggets as he had one rebound and went scoreless without attempting any shots.

“It’s early,” Porter said. “Two games, still got to build my wind up, to be more prepared in the game, things like that. And just continue to learn.”



Although Porter wasn’t aggressively going after the ball against Denver, he wasn’t exactly shying away from it, as he called for it on several occasions. When the ball didn’t come his way, Porter admitted that he thought about yelling at someone to swing the ball his way.

“I want to so bad, but no. No,” Porter said, flashing a grin. “That’s not my job. Yell at myself more than anything.”

As he prepares for his third NBA game on Friday in Atlanta, Porter is still seeking his first points in the NBA but understands that scoring opportunities won’t come if he just sits back and waits for them.
“I know sometimes in the game, it’s tough, because the ball might not find you, but in an open court, fast break, get some good easy ones, free throw line,” Porter said. “Like a lot of people say, shooters, once you get that first taste, that first bucket, they start get going and for me that’s all that it’s about. Once I get that first bucket, the more comfortable I get. If I see it go in, it’s normal.”

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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#884 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:17 am

80sballboy wrote:
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stevemcqueen1 wrote:Ariza is getting the best looks of his career. He should give Wall a commission from his next contract because Wall is making him some money.

Lots of our wing shooters are making hay because of Wall. He's massively important. We won't even come close to playing .500 ball if he goes down, even if we had everyone else healthy.


It would be a blessing in disguise make the team have a Chicago situation they gotta step it up and Beal would be forced to improve his handles.


It's not his shot selection that's the problem. Without Webster, Nene and Beal, he has to shoot. It's the mindless, unforced turnovers that have bothered me about the guy since Day 1. If he limited his dribbling when he's being closely guarded, he would be a perfect player.


Day 1? That was two games ago and he's barely played any minutes at all. What does he have, like three turnovers for his career?
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#885 » by LyricalRico » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:07 am

Porter with at least some progress tonight. Made a couple buckets.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#886 » by Dark Faze » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:16 am

It wasn't just the buckets, Porter looked great tonight. Constantly cut to the basket but wasn't rewarded, played solid defense, knocked down shots. We'll see what happens.
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Post#887 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:18 am

Porter had a nice game but very few minutes. In the time he was on the court he rebounded well and looked assertive and natural on offense. I could see him developing some chemistry with Vesely and GRJr with some time.
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Post#888 » by daSwami » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:14 am

He looked decent, but I'm still worried about his hitchy shooting form. It makes it appear as if it takes him and extra half second to release his shot - this can't be a good thing. Jamal Wilkes is the only player I can recall with such unorthodox form, and he was a great shooter, so maybe Otto'll be alright. I would, however, like to see him work with a Dave Joerger-type shooting coach this off-season to smooth out that release. Or is that even possible at this point?
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Post#889 » by Upper Decker » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:42 pm

daSwami wrote:He looked decent, but I'm still worried about his hitchy shooting form. It makes it appear as if it takes him and extra half second to release his shot - this can't be a good thing. Jamal Wilkes is the only player I can recall with such unorthodox form, and he was a great shooter, so maybe Otto'll be alright. I would, however, like to see him work with a Dave Joerger-type shooting coach this off-season to smooth out that release. Or is that even possible at this point?

I agree. He made two open assisted jumpers, big deal! I'm still not impressed with Porter. In my book NBA wings are generally only successful if they can excel at one of two things: 1) dribble penetration or 2) if they're an excellent shooter with range. I have no hopes for Porter becoming even a passable dribble penetrator because he severely lacks handles, explosiveness, or a quick first step. Therefore his bread and butter has to be shooting. I am highly skeptical his unorthodox form hitch jumper will ever become reliable enough for him to be a true impact player.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#890 » by Wizardspride » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:32 pm

Dark Faze wrote:It wasn't just the buckets, Porter looked great tonight. Constantly cut to the basket but wasn't rewarded, played solid defense, knocked down shots. We'll see what happens.

I'm glad someone else noticed this. :)

Moving without the ball will prove to be one of Otto's strengths.

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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#891 » by montestewart » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:38 pm

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Dark Faze wrote:It wasn't just the buckets, Porter looked great tonight. Constantly cut to the basket but wasn't rewarded, played solid defense, knocked down shots. We'll see what happens.

I'm glad someone else noticed this. :)

Moving without the ball will prove to be one of Otto's strengths.

I had my back to the screen most of the game (working) but I saw some of that as well. Unlike some rookies that come along slowly, he didn't look lost out there, just trying to adjust to the pro game. If he's used in a trade that improves the team, no problem, but I don't see Bennett-like bust evidence to justify move-him-for-anything type trades.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#892 » by dobrojim » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:22 pm

daSwami wrote:He looked decent, but I'm still worried about his hitchy shooting form. It makes it appear as if it takes him and extra half second to release his shot - this can't be a good thing. Jamal Wilkes is the only player I can recall with such unorthodox form, and he was a great shooter, so maybe Otto'll be alright. I would, however, like to see him work with a Dave Joerger-type shooting coach this off-season to smooth out that release. Or is that even possible at this point?



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Post#893 » by Kanyewest » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:41 pm

tontoz wrote:It is odd how much Ariza's 3 pt shooting has improved. He had never been better than 33% before coming here. I think we have to give Wall a some credit here for being able to create so many corner 3 opportunities.



Things were falling together for him at the end of his Lakers run. He was shooting I believe 46% from 3 point range when it came down to the postseason. It took him a while to get into a groove into that season because he was coming off an injury.

True credit goes to Wall so that Ariza doesn't have to be relied upon creating his own shot off the dribble which he was terrible with Houston and New Orleans.
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Post#894 » by dobrojim » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:06 pm

credit should go to Wall but also to TA who is the one actually hitting those shots
at a good clip.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#895 » by Jay81 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:35 pm

not ready to give up on Porter...he was excellent last year playing against good competition
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Post#896 » by dobrojim » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:38 pm

only a few are ready to give up on OP and those were the same folks
(mostly) who never wanted us to draft him in the first place.
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Post#897 » by Dat2U » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:41 pm

I think OP will be okay, but he's certainly not untouchable IMO and same goes for Beal.
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Post#898 » by GeeWiz » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:43 pm

Dat2U wrote:I think OP will be okay, but he's certainly not untouchable IMO and same goes for Beal.


Beal is untouchable imo. Hes a future all-star and the perfect complement to Wall. We really hit a homerun with the pick, which is a first for Ernie.


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Post#899 » by Dat2U » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:56 pm

GeeWiz wrote:
Dat2U wrote:I think OP will be okay, but he's certainly not untouchable IMO and same goes for Beal.


Beal is untouchable imo. Hes a future all-star and the perfect complement to Wall. We really hit a homerun with the pick, which is a first for Ernie.


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Why? Does he have a lot of promise? Sure. But why close doors on opportunities before they even open? I'm not saying we should be actively looking to trade Beal but I'd argue against being so closed minded or becoming too attached to a prospect that you lack the foresight and awareness to act when a deal does come along (cough, Harden, cough).
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Post#900 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:00 pm

Dat2U wrote:
GeeWiz wrote:Beal is untouchable imo. Hes a future all-star and the perfect complement to Wall. We really hit a homerun with the pick, which is a first for Ernie.


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Why? Does he have a lot of promise? Sure. But why close doors on opportunities before they even open? I'm not saying we should be actively looking to trade Beal but I'd argue against being so closed minded or becoming too attached to a prospect that you lack the foresight and awareness to act when a deal does come along (cough, Harden, cough).

Beal isn't untouchable, but I think GeeWiz's greater point is that he is such a good fit on this team that it is unlikely that there is a Beal trade package out there that would result in a net improvement of our roster.

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