Wiz trade 5th pick to Minnesota

[WizarDynasty]

i wouldn't consider #1- brook lopez, #2Chris Kaman, #3marc gasol, #4nene hilario, #5al horford, #6al jefferson, #7jason thompson, #8andrew bynum, #9troy murphy, #10pau gasol. #11josh smith--I don't think any of these players are HOFers. --all shot 50 percent and have close to 40 blocks and have score close to 350 pts.

And which of those teams can we rip of to get any of those players...??? They don't exactly grow on trees you know...

We all know we need 2 way players at all positions, but guess what, not many teams have them, and ain't none of them teams giving up those kinda players for the garbage we have...

btw, didn't we have this discussion a good while ago...???

marc gasol--international free agent, nene was traded for on draft night, al jeffereson--traded for--jason thompson and brook weren't high lottery picks- gasol was traded for with our very won KFB-troy murphy--came from Golden state-josh smith wasn't a lottery pick. Takes skill as a GM.

[closg00]

Just some insight into what the GSW board is saying about Curry.
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=965004&start=0

[nate33]

I'd trade Randy Foye straight up for Curry. (Actually, they'd need to throw in a minimum contract filler, Mikki Moore would do.)

[Jammer]

Not a Wiz fan, but a question about the trade, albeit well after the fact.

Is the reason that you gave up the 2009 #5 pick, which could have been used to select
Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, Johnny Flynn or Ricky Rubio;
that the Wiz are completely committed to Gilbert Arenas at the Point?

In other words, rather than draft one of the above guys, and risk cutting into the minutes
of Agent Zero, was it easier to just trade the pick?

Because if you had drafted Jennings, Lawson, Flynn or Rubio;
you could probably entertain trading Arenas and rebuilding
around the rest of the team.

[LyricalRico]

My understanding is that the only guy we had rated that high was Rubio and it was clear he wasn't going to come over for a while. Already having several young players that we've been waiting on, they made the decision to put winning now with veterans over taking yet another young player they would presumably have had to wait on.

[closg00]

Not a Wiz fan, but a question about the trade, albeit well after the fact.

Is the reason that you gave up the 2009 #5 pick, which could have been used to select
Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, Johnny Flynn or Ricky Rubio;
that the Wiz are completely committed to Gilbert Arenas at the Point?

In other words, rather than draft one of the above guys, and risk cutting into the minutes
of Agent Zero, was it easier to just trade the pick?

Because if you had drafted Jennings, Lawson, Flynn or Rubio;
you could probably entertain trading Arenas and rebuilding
around the rest of the team.

We did it to ultimately save cash while also trying to go far in the playoffs THIS year. We sold our 2nd round pick for cash as we did the prior year. Foye (he turned-down an offer from Ernie) will not be back so he comes off the books and Miller most-likely won't be back unless we somehow unload D.Steve.

[closg00]

Bump for the wiretap linked article.
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... lost_time/

[DaRealHibachi]

We did it to ultimately save cash while also trying to go far in the playoffs THIS year. We sold our 2nd round pick for cash as we did the prior year. Foye (he turned-down an offer from Ernie) will not be back so he comes off the books and Miller most-likely won't be back unless we somehow unload D.Steve.

Wasn't it EG who didn't want to give Foye an extension...???

[closg00]

We did it to ultimately save cash while also trying to go far in the playoffs THIS year. We sold our 2nd round pick for cash as we did the prior year. Foye (he turned-down an offer from Ernie) will not be back so he comes off the books and Miller most-likely won't be back unless we somehow unload D.Steve.

Wasn't it EG who didn't want to give Foye an extension...???

Randy Foye was one of several members of the 2006 draft class who weren't able to negotiate extensions before the midnight deadline early Monday. Foye confirmed that his representatives had discussions with the Wizards, but they couldn't come to an agreement. A person familiar with the negotiations said the two sides weren't too far off in money, although I haven't been able to confirm any figures.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizard ... tting.html

So we offered him something, probably so we won't look so bad after he expires. I'm actually glad he wasn't signed, there was a reason Minny wanted to dump him.

[AceDegenerate]

So yet another Draft we will look back on and wonder what could have been.

The story of this franchise.

[Dat2U]

Back to Randy Foye. Everything I've seen of him says he's a below average NBA player. I can see him getting hot in game or two but I don't see him shooting well enough consistently to offset his lack of size and PG skill. If someone would like to demonstrate evidence to the contrary, I'd love to hear it.

Wasn't he supposedly pretty decent in Minny? Well i just looked at his career stats. And looking at his per 36 numbers below compared to now, you just gotta say, he's pretty much the same player. He's just not getting the benefit of extended minutes, shots or plays ran for him that he got as scoring option for a real bad team in Minnesota.

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Season  Tm   G  GS  MP   FG%  3P%  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
2006-07  MIN 82  12 1879 .434 .368 .854 0.9 3.2 4.2 4.4 1.0 0.4 2.9 3.5 15.9
2007-08  MIN 39  31 1259 .429 .412 .815 0.4 3.3 3.7 4.7 1.0 0.1 2.3 2.9 14.6
2008-09  MIN 70  61 2494 .407 .360 .846 0.5 2.6 3.1 4.4 1.0 0.4 2.2 2.9 16.4
2009-10  WAS 25   3  396 .383 .366 .949 0.5 2.5 3.0 2.9 1.0 0.3 2.3 2.9 15.1
Career      216 107 6028 .418 .374 .852 0.6 2.9 3.5 4.4 1.0 0.3 2.4 3.1 15.8

[Ji]

this trades is as bad as the Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond Trade. I hate you Ernie

[newslowsad]

Foye showed tonight that he can be a very good player for us when given time.

When the F is Miller coming back?

[Donkey McDonkerton]

this trades is as bad as the Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond Trade. I hate you Ernie

We could trade for Wade and Lebron, and I bet you'd find a way to cry and complain like a girl.

[dobrojim]

this trades is as bad as the Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond Trade. I hate you Ernie

We could trade for Wade and Lebron, and I bet you'd find a way to cry and complain like a girl.

glad my daughter doesn't read this BB

[nate33]

I agree with Dat2U. Foye just isn't that good and he never was. He's an undersized SG with mediocre footspeed. He can't guard any position. Offensively, he's deadly on the spot up jumper but he doesn't do much else to impress me. Don't get me wrong. He's not an awful player. He just isn't starting-caliber. And there are going to be times when he can't get into the game at all because he doesn't match up defensively.

One problem is that Minnesota used him like he was Brandon Roy. It taught him bad habits. Foye just isn't capable of being a high usage player. Foye needs to redefine his game as a role player. He needs to play alongside a ball-dominant swing man. His role model should be somebody like Derrick Fisher or Daniel Gibson. Just play defense and hit open shots. The question is: Can Foye improve his defense up to Derrick Fisher level through hard work; or is he genetically incapable of doing so?

[dobrojim]

does Fisher really even play good D? I'm guessing average maybe.

agree with the rest of your points, I was underwhelmed
by Foye's stats when we traded for him. I like his cool
under fire but his mental approach may only take him
so far. He is a good shooter. And every once in a while
he can get an assist a la the nice pass to Haywood for
the dunk last night.

[keynote]

Fisher in his prime played very good D. He wasn't especially quick, but he was smart, strong, and worked hard.

Frankly, the work that Fisher put in to become a solid defensive spot-up shooting PG in his prime 7-8 years ago is the reason why he's still kicking around in the NBA today.

[MF23]

Dat and Nate, I disagree with you both in regards to Foye. I'm not going to go into why I say this as I don't feel I need to. I don't understand why people don't let time go by before stating an absolute opinion. Randy Foye will get used to playing with this team and will become more aggressive.

The only thing that I wonder is if either he, Miller or Young will be traded by February. I think one of them has to go with the addition of Boykins.

[MF23]

Dat and Nate, I disagree with you both in regards to Foye. I'm not going to go into why I say this as I don't feel I need to. I don't understand why people don't let time go by before stating an absolute opinion. Randy Foye will get used to playing with this team and will become more aggressive.

The only thing that I wonder is if either he, Miller or Young will be traded by February. I think one of them has to go with the addition of Boykins.