2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[80sballboy]

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[MikeTheKid]

Beal gonna re-sign for the max, let me finish that bottle of Jack!!!

[Illuminaire]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

[Wizardspride]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

Honestly, what's the alternative?


This is the "new NBA".

[stevemcqueen1]

**** this FA market. Just sit it out. Make trades for guys who signed extensions last summer and the summer before. Beal's max deal is enough of an albatross contract for one summer. All of these agreements struck during the moratorium are going to be horrible.

[Illuminaire]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

Honestly, what's the alternative?


This is the "new NBA".

The alternative is to wait and let the market set his price, because you can always match. And if he gets that kind of deal, when he's worth maybe half that, you sign someone else instead.

Making a bad decisions just to make a decision does not get you closer to building a contender.

[Wizardspride]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

Honestly, what's the alternative?


This is the "new NBA".

The alternative is to wait and let the market set his price, because you can always match. And if he gets that kind of deal, when he's worth maybe half that, you sign someone else instead.

Making a bad decisions just to make a decision does not get you closer to building a contender.

The problem with doing that is if Brad signed an offer sheet early(with another team) you lose tons of cap space.

[Illuminaire]

Sure, but what impact free agents are even looking the Wizard's way?

The opportunity cost is negligible if you're signing Beal to a contract even remotely close to his actual value. And there's only a chance that happens to begin with.

[80sballboy]

Sure, but what impact free agents are even looking the Wizard's way?

The opportunity cost is negligible if you're signing Beal to a contract even remotely close to his actual value. And there's only a chance that happens to begin with.

Yeah, let's wait until somebody offers him his value. You know, like Mozgov getting $16M a year from the idiot Lakers, Noah probably getting $17M from the Knicks, Parsons likely getting the max with no healthy knees from Portland. Sure, Beal at 23, is probably getting less than those guys. Right.

There are only a few impact free agents out there and we're probably getting neither. Now it's time to be creative which is difficult for this FO.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

Honestly, what's the alternative?


This is the "new NBA".

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bealbr01.html

The alternative is for the Wizards to look at the following four numbers and to remove their heads from the collective asses:

56
73
63
55

Those are the number of regular season games Bradley Beal played the past four 82 game seasons.

That is 247 out of a possible 328 games. EIGHTY ONE MISSED GAMES. HE IN EFFECTIVE HAS MISSED ONE SEASON WHILE INJURED. HE'S HURT TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME. One game in 4 he's a scratch.



Honestly, Ted Leonsis and Ernie Grunfeld have lost my respect. They overpay and underthink. Yeah, I made that word up.

Paying him 25 Million a year is really like paying 6.25 Million for nothing at all. The chumps should at least cut what they might offer him by a quarter, but they're too dumb.

About 10 years ago I said don't resign injured Gilbert.

Now, I'm saying IDGAF. Great news for Bradley Beal.

Damned fools would be better off signing someone like Kent Bazemore.

THE ONE REDEEMING PORTION OF SIGNING BEAL IS HE IS A SCORER AND BROOKS IS NEW--PERHAPS HE CAN FACILITATE BRAD SCORING MORE POINTS. A 23 PPG BEAL IS VERY TRADE-ABLE.

(MY REASONING: Beal is no Klay Thompson. His PER of 14 is nowhere near star like Klay. Now, if Beal bumps that up to about 18 with over 20 ppg; then he's approaching worth a lot of money.)

[Illuminaire]

Sure, but what impact free agents are even looking the Wizard's way?

The opportunity cost is negligible if you're signing Beal to a contract even remotely close to his actual value. And there's only a chance that happens to begin with.

Yeah, let's wait until somebody offers him his value. You know, like Mozgov getting $16M a year from the idiot Lakers, Noah probably getting $17M from the Knicks, Parsons likely getting the max with no healthy knees from Portland. Sure, Beal at 23, is probably getting less than those guys. Right.

There are only a few impact free agents out there and we're probably getting neither. Now it's time to be creative which is difficult for this FO.

Then you let him walk. This isn't that hard to understand. You can't put together a quality team if you wildly overpay injury prone, replacement level players.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Sure, but what impact free agents are even looking the Wizard's way?

The opportunity cost is negligible if you're signing Beal to a contract even remotely close to his actual value. And there's only a chance that happens to begin with.

Yeah, let's wait until somebody offers him his value. You know, like Mozgov getting $16M a year from the idiot Lakers, Noah probably getting $17M from the Knicks, Parsons likely getting the max with no healthy knees from Portland. Sure, Beal at 23, is probably getting less than those guys. Right.

There are only a few impact free agents out there and we're probably getting neither. Now it's time to be creative which is difficult for this FO.

Then you let him walk. This isn't that hard to understand. You can't put together a quality team if you wildly overpay injury prone, replacement level players.

[Damas]

A nice deal for the wizard to lock up a top 10 SG for many years to come. Congrats.

[gambitx777]

This is not a good deal. I wanted to trade beal a while ago, he is going to be over paid and you have a starting level SG in Thomas that you can bring over instead for much less money, and how is john going to fell with beal making mroe money than him..... ego man ............this is scary, deal lord this is scary. At least this is a frame work deal, we can always back out of the deal at any time before the dotted line is signed on, Jordan and dallas showed us that last year!

Maybe we will come to find out that EG pulled a smart one and gave beal what he wanted but not fully guaranteed. or an injury clause or a provision that it only becomes fully guaranteed if he playes a certain about of games. or a team option in 3 years or something.

[The Consiglieri]

So what's the plan when we strike out on the top three tiers of players?

E.G. Resigns? <insert spit take here>

[Error Afflalo]

I came to grips with the Beal overpay a long time ago. It was going to happen either way. It's the moves that come after this that scare the hell out of me.

[bealwithit]

Beal with it.

[Wonderllama]

It's not the worst contract in the NBA just yet, but give it time.

[verbal8]

I read that we're going to sign Beal to a max deal as soon as midnight rolls around.

I could be wrong, but doesn't that unnecessarily change his cap commitment from the ~15 million dollar hold to a 22 million dollar hold? So we're essentially giving up 7 million in cap space to use at the beginning of FA for no reason? Moreoever, we're going to offer Beal a max deal without waiting for someone else to do it first, knowing that we can match??

They didn't say were signing him to a deal right away.


We're going to agree to a deal right away.

It's basically just to keep him from signing an offer sheet with another team and lessen our cap space.

Even if the full max deal were the right answer for Beal, there is absolutely no reason to sign/announce it now. Do what Golden State has done with Harrison Barnes and say "We will match anything" and operate in Free Agency with the smaller cap hold.

Cap space isn't just for signing FAs. Sometimes teams need to free up cap space and solid players or picks are available in return.

[verbal8]

**** this FA market. Just sit it out. Make trades for guys who signed extensions last summer and the summer before. Beal's max deal is enough of an albatross contract for one summer. All of these agreements struck during the moratorium are going to be horrible.

Taking Lamb and the pick(even if Beal was retained) seems like it would have been a great idea.