Political Roundtable Part XXII

[Pointgod]

Yeah...Kavanaugh definitely tried to rape that girl. Way to go conservatives, you sure know how to pick em. Now you get to have two low life scum on the SC. But who am I kidding. You guys would vote for a pedophile.

And he's going to get confirmed too. There's a reason Mitch McConnell didn't want to put this guy up for a vote. Mitch **** McConnell that would push through Satan himself for a supreme court seat.

If I were a Senator I would definitely vote against Kavanaugh, he is a liar and a partisan political activist. However, this attempted rape charge from HS appears to be a stupid HS event. I believe the woman's account, he was drunk off his ass and tried to "make a move" probably in his mind, and he frightened this poor young woman. If there are similar charges out-there against him, the nomination should be withdrawn.

Whoa there's no way you can call an attempted rape charge as some stupid HS event. If you read the victims account he covered her mouth to keep her from screaming and tried to force himself on her. I've been drunk many times in high school and raping someone was never one of my go to moves. Read some background on the accusation. It's very detailed and corroborated in the woman's therapy sessions. This isn't something that can just be swept brushed away.

[GhostofChenier]

"If you're dissatisfied with your current government you're always welcome to run for office."

Everyone here should remember you write this PointGod. I do not think it stop you from complain. And shoul dnot.

[pancakes3]

re: repatriating funds

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[Jamaaliver]

Top contenders for Democratic Presidential nomination:

4. Former vice president Joe Biden: Polling this far out should be taken with a huge grain of salt if not outright ignored. But I suppose it’s worth something that Biden had the most people say they were open to voting for him in a new Vox Populi poll. That’s partially because of name ID, sure, but he was better off than Sen. Bernie Sanders and even others who were as well-known as he is. (Previous ranking: 3)

The Washington Post

[Jamaaliver]

Whoa there's no way you can call an attempted rape charge as some stupid HS event.

Yeah, I was initially skeptical of some vague, anonymous, uncorroborated accusation of wrongdoing in HS.

But this is...pretty awful.

Sounds like there is another witness floating around out there.

Sadly, had this accusation been made 4 years ago, it probably gets swept under the rug. Or worse, the victim would be blamed a la Anita Hill in '91/'92.

[Wizardspride]

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[dckingsfan]

So, I am torn on Trump leaving the Paris agreement.

Pros:
1) Allows us to develop natural gas exports more easily
2) Natural gas is killing coal (I think this is terrific)
3) Stops the wealth transfer payments to the UN (I always thought these would be misused)
4) With the rest of the countries staying in the Paris accord, it probably doesn't affect climate change

Cons
1) Disrupts funding of alternative energy in the US (other countries will become/have become the leaders in this technology)
2) Slows down dismantling of coal plants
3) We aren't party to the agreement and can't influence said outcomes

[Wizardspride]

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[dckingsfan]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Top contenders for Democratic Presidential nomination:

4. Former vice president Joe Biden: Polling this far out should be taken with a huge grain of salt if not outright ignored. But I suppose it’s worth something that Biden had the most people say they were open to voting for him in a new Vox Populi poll. That’s partially because of name ID, sure, but he was better off than Sen. Bernie Sanders and even others who were as well-known as he is. (Previous ranking: 3)

The Washington Post

[Jamaaliver]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Understood.

I'm intrigued by a potential ticket of Joe Biden and Eric Holder. (NOTE: Carrying Holder as VP is unlikely because he can't carry a swing state based on appeal/name recognition.)

Beyond that...meh.

Bloomberg and Kasich would be an interesting duo.

[dckingsfan]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Understood.

I'm intrigued by a potential ticket of Joe Biden and Eric Holder. (NOTE: Carrying Holder as VP is unlikely because he can't carry a swing state based on appeal/name recognition.)

Beyond that...meh.

Bloomberg and Kasich would be an interesting duo.

Love to have Bloomberg/Kasich run against Trump on the R side or as an independent ticket to take Trump down.

[I_Like_Dirt]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Top contenders for Democratic Presidential nomination:

4. Former vice president Joe Biden: Polling this far out should be taken with a huge grain of salt if not outright ignored. But I suppose it’s worth something that Biden had the most people say they were open to voting for him in a new Vox Populi poll. That’s partially because of name ID, sure, but he was better off than Sen. Bernie Sanders and even others who were as well-known as he is. (Previous ranking: 3)

The Washington Post

I look at this list and target the candidates that have the highest "certainly would not consider" ratings. Oprah and Dwayne Johnson, come on down!!!

In all seriousness, those might be the better candidates as best I can tell, just based on who else is on the list. The idea of not considering is patently ridiculous overall and those two would drum up quite a bit of support from circles that might otherwise not actively participate in politics. I don't know much about the political leanings of Dwayne Johnson in particular, but they also might be willing to listen to reasonable advisors, so the key would be getting legitimately good people around them (a problem given the party institution around them, but that would still be a problem for any candidate). I'd prefer a supremely competent, honorable, charismatic visionary as a candidate, but those always seem to be in short supply. At least Mark Zuckerberg has vanished from the list for some reason.

[JWizmentality]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Understood.

I'm intrigued by a potential ticket of Joe Biden and Eric Holder. (NOTE: Carrying Holder as VP is unlikely because he can't carry a swing state based on appeal/name recognition.)

Beyond that...meh.

Bloomberg and Kasich would be an interesting duo.

I'd welcome it just to see conservatives lose their collective #%^$. Holder is reaching the boogeyman levels of Hillary Clinton.

[closg00]

And he's going to get confirmed too. There's a reason Mitch McConnell didn't want to put this guy up for a vote. Mitch **** McConnell that would push through Satan himself for a supreme court seat.

If I were a Senator I would definitely vote against Kavanaugh, he is a liar and a partisan political activist. However, this attempted rape charge from HS appears to be a stupid HS event. I believe the woman's account, he was drunk off his ass and tried to "make a move" probably in his mind, and he frightened this poor young woman. If there are similar charges out-there against him, the nomination should be withdrawn.

Whoa there's no way you can call an attempted rape charge as some stupid HS event. If you read the victims account he covered her mouth to keep her from screaming and tried to force himself on her. I've been drunk many times in high school and raping someone was never one of my go to moves. Read some background on the accusation. It's very detailed and corroborated in the woman's therapy sessions. This isn't something that can just be swept brushed away.

Apologies, I had not read the full-account letter.

[stilldropin20]

in the 70's and 80's it was paper products. <--dont use them!! Our forests!! deforestation will be the end of us!! Use plastic!! (remember that? The actual push for plastic?? #Metoo! We used to re-use glass products from milk and pepsi/coke. <--there was no reason at all to get away from glass products other than forcing the cost on to the grocery stores and pepsi/coke/milk manufactures.

Recycling pepsi bottles stopped in the late 80's 90's. Recycling milk bottles stopped in the 60's.

In the 80's and 90's it was recycle!! Glass and Aluminum began massive recycle campaigns.

In the 2000's we learned that it was actually plastic that was bad!! <--and it is due to being non biodegradable and toxins released when recycling. and many other incompatibilities with mother nature...we've all seen wild life being affected by plastics.

Clouroflourocarbons (the stuff in hairspray cans) were thought to be the big bad enemy in 80's and 90's in terms of punching holes in the ozone (remember that folly ) as well as CO and CO2. so we went from pressurized aluminum cans to plastic cans with pumps.

There was even a push to uses pens over pencils in schools which again is the agenda of plastic over natural wood and lead/graphite.

And now we are getting back to using paper straws. Paper cups. and cardboard milk containers.

I give it 5-10 years before "science" leads public opinion right back to paper, aluminum, and glass everything over plastic. (which is the right thing to do). We should have NEVER used so much plastic. So why did we?????? Is it because plastic products are made from raw materials found on and within the earth that no one really owns but certain companies are given rights to mine like oil and sand???



And why did the science change?????? Why were we so worried about deforestation due to potential overuse of wood and paper products 30 years ago and not worried about it all anymore?? Even though 30 years later we have nearly twice the worlds population who consume nearly 4 times the amount of goods??? <--Why has the science changed!!!!!

[TGW]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Understood.

I'm intrigued by a potential ticket of Joe Biden and Eric Holder. (NOTE: Carrying Holder as VP is unlikely because he can't carry a swing state based on appeal/name recognition.)

Beyond that...meh.

Bloomberg and Kasich would be an interesting duo.

No and no. Bloomberg and Kasich would be an unmitigated disaster. As for Joe Biden, he has so many skeletons in his closet, Trump would abuse him.

[I_Like_Dirt]

No and no. Bloomberg and Kasich would be an unmitigated disaster. As for Joe Biden, he has so many skeletons in his closet, Trump would abuse him.

Forget Bloomberg, if we're operating in the fantasy-land where Kasich would cross the floor, I'd love to see a Bernie-Kasich pair. Force them to work together and figure things out. Bernie has to let Kasich figure out how to make his ideas work, and Kasich can't escape making Bernie's ideas work. Neither of them can escape. I'm in. Let's do it. I wouldn't be averse to a Warren-Kasich pair, either. One person for ideas, Kasich for the fiscal restraint. Not happening, though.

And while I'm imagining things, the idea of Trump trying to rally against The Rock is hilarious to me. Frankly, I didn't even realize he was a consideration but after seeing that poll, I can't see any reason anyone else should actually be the candidate.

[GhostofChenier]

Democrat using Rock or Oprah presents them as hypocrite. Very bad idea.

They need energetic, young person to excite youth. Obama was perfect person for this. Clinton exact opposite. Biden also opposite.

Sanders even old still has big personality and fun. He can win. All others lose to Trump’s big personality in debate with common man.

Sanders only problem is he is candidate for poor and tax in big economy.

[dckingsfan]

When presented with this list I am pretty underwhelmed

Understood.

I'm intrigued by a potential ticket of Joe Biden and Eric Holder. (NOTE: Carrying Holder as VP is unlikely because he can't carry a swing state based on appeal/name recognition.)

Beyond that...meh.

Bloomberg and Kasich would be an interesting duo.

No and no. Bloomberg and Kasich would be an unmitigated disaster. As for Joe Biden, he has so many skeletons in his closet, Trump would abuse him.

Yes to the Bloomberg and Kasich Independent ticket. Rs, Independent and D ticket would make sure that no one would get the majority of the 538 electoral votes. And then it would be decided in the house - which will be D by then.

[Wizardspride]

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