Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

DCZards · Post #921 » by **DCZards** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 6:51 pm

payitforward wrote:
Above all, I've never been sadder about this country or more worried about my grandchildren's future than I am right now, so that sorrow not anger is the big feeling for me.

I feel ya. Who would have thought that someday we'd have a president who divides the country into red states vs blue states when there's a national health crisis and does the same us vs them sh*t when there are uprisings in streets across the nation.

At times of crisis when this country truly needs a unifying message, we are saddled with a so-called leader who is the ultimate divider. Unbelievable.

Post #922 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 7:39 pm

I mean... if your logic is that Biden is racist because he's not for legalizing marijuana... really? What percent of his generation is for legalizing marijuana? It doesn't have anything to do with being racist. If he didn't like "Stairway to Heaven" that might make him racist. Actually, "Southern Man" vs "Sweet Home Alabama" is the real test.

Post #923 » by **Zonkerbl** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 8:38 pm

The progressive arm of the Dem party is for these things, but they are clearly in the minority. The large majority of Dems still support the racist war on drugs - that's why we're stuck with old racist Biden. The large majority of white Dems don't even realize the war on drugs is racist. I stand by what I said.

Post #924 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 8:52 pm

Jeff Sessions was the guy that was re-declaring the war on drugs - and for harsher sentences on marijuana - as AG under Trump. That's not going to happen if Biden's elected. And states will continue to de-criminalize it. Is there still a ways to go? Yes. But it's OBVIOUSLY worse with Republicans running things - as we've seen with Trump's ridiculously bad choices at AG.

payitforward · Post #925 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 9:08 pm

Ruzious wrote:I mean... if your logic is that Biden is racist because he's not for legalizing marijuana... really? What percent of his generation is for legalizing marijuana? It doesn't have anything to do with being racist. If he didn't like "Stairway to Heaven" that might make him racist. Actually, "Southern Man" vs "Sweet Home Alabama" is the real test.

Yeah, well, these days they play Wagner in Israel, so... those are both great tunes. Moreover, anyone can get medical marijuana.

Let's legalize acid!

payitforward · Post #926 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 9:34 pm

Well, the tone can descend easily in this thread. So, I'll tell a joke -- which isn't easy in a Bulletin Board post -- hence the seqence of spoilers.

A guy goes in for a job interview, & it's going pretty well. Then the interviewer asks him...

Spoiler:

& the guy replies...

Spoiler:

"Huh," says the interviewer. "That's odd."

Spoiler:

To which the guy responds

Spoiler:

DCZards · Post #927 » by **DCZards** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 10:10 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:The progressive arm of the Dem party is for these things, but they are clearly in the minority. The large majority of Dems still support the racist war on drugs - that's why we're stuck with old racist Biden. The large majority of white Dems don't even realize the war on drugs is racist. I stand by what I said.

A virus is killing people, our cities are on fire and you're complaining about this. C'mon man! Joe Biden may be racist--as are many, many white people--but he's a whole lot better human being than that a-hole in the WH.

Wizardspride · Post #928 » by **Wizardspride** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 10:24 pm

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doclinkin · Post #929 » by **doclinkin** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 10:32 pm

nate33 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
nate33 wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/jail-logs-show-most-arrested-minneapolis-rioters-locals-contradicting-claims-of-e2-80-9880-25-out-of-state-e2-80-99-provocateurs/ar-BB14Pt4a

https://eurweb.com/2020/05/29/jacob-pederson-minneapolis-police-officer-accused-of-starting-minneapolis-riot-watch/

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/

Oh well the *Police* say it's not him. Sure, well then I believe them. Why not? The police wouldn't lie, especially about protecting other cops or covering up malfeasance by bad actors. If they did that sort of thing well, there'd be riots in the streets.

Snopes.com calls it 'unproven' not false. His ex wife says it is him and those were her gloves and mask. Facial recognition analysis says there is a high degree of probability. But okay we will take the word of the Police department. They're the most trustworthy actors in this.

Post #930 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 10:34 pm

Wizardspride wrote:

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He's pushing every button he can think of to escalate things. Tin Soldiers and Trump is coming.

dckingsfan · Post #931 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 11:01 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:The progressive arm of the Dem party is for these things, but they are clearly in the minority. The large majority of Dems still support the racist war on drugs - that's why we're stuck with old racist Biden. The large majority of white Dems don't even realize the war on drugs is racist. I stand by what I said.

80% - okay, not all. Only 14% oppose or somewhat oppose.

UcanUwill · Post #932 » by **UcanUwill** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 11:34 pm

payitforward wrote:
nate33 wrote:...Contrary to popular belief on the left, there really aren't a lot of white supremacist groups in this country, unless you count everyone who voted for Trump as a white supremacist.

I count anyone who supports Donald Trump today as a racist, nate.

Do you think someone could support Donald Trump & not be a racist? If so, please explain.

Not every Trump supporter is racist, but every racist is Trump supporter

I_Like_Dirt · Post #933 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:53 am

UcanUwill wrote:Not every Trump supporter is racist, but every racist is Trump supporter

Disagree. At this point it's clear. You don't have to support the Democratic Party to be anti-Trump. If you're a Trump supporter there are several unsavory characteristics that stick to you now even though such people generally tend to take offence when told as much.

It very much wouldn't be hard here to suggest massive policing overhauls while still being against the Democratic Party. Police do some good things and do some other not so good things. And then people turn around and blame the unions. The unions only have as much power as they do because they have a rather significant part of the voting public behind them.

Edit:

I should add, there is one other kind of person who would still support Trump and may or may not be racist. Scam artists out for a quick buck in cut and run politics who are willing to exploit any tactic that helps them make money, including racism, to that effect. I'm not sure how many of those manage to fall out of the racism boat but it doesn't strike me as many.

payitforward · Post #934 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 1:34 am

Considering what that traitorous demagogue in the White House is doing, or considering doing, tonight I regret my attempts at humor. I meant well -- to a great degree I hoped to reduce my own sense of despair.

It didn't work; that's for sure.

May that horrible excuse for a human being die soon, as soon as now would be my profound hope.

JWizmentality · Post #935 » by **JWizmentality** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 2:22 am

Quite something to watch the façade of American exceptionalism crumble in spectacular fashion.

Wizardspride · Post #936 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 3:14 am

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long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #937 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 5:18 am

There is no rock bottom with this evil tyrant.

Tear gassing peaceful protesters in order to stage a photo op?

There is no way I’m getting any sleep tonight. This is bad. This is really bad.

Post #938 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 10:23 am

So let me get this straight... right after saying with great emphasis "i'm a fan of all peaceful protests", he violently ambushes... a completely peaceful protest right in his front yard... with no warning to the protesters... for the SOLE purpose so that he can get his photo taken at a church... on a Monday night.

He is intentionally pouring gasoline on fire at a time when any other President would be trying to calm the situation. Every step of the way, he's done this. This is history happening in our back yards, and if you're not concerned - you're a fool.

What would it take for Republican Congressmen other than Romney to stand up to the thing in the WH? What we do know is that McConnell and Graham will never do it.

Post #939 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:22 pm

We are a 3rd world country. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/journalists-covering-george-floyd-protests-face-attacks-from-police/ar-BB14TDrj?li=BBnb7Kz

Post #940 » by **Zonkerbl** » Tue Jun 2, 2020 12:30 pm

DCZards wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:The progressive arm of the Dem party is for these things, but they are clearly in the minority. The large majority of Dems still support the racist war on drugs - that's why we're stuck with old racist Biden. The large majority of white Dems don't even realize the war on drugs is racist. I stand by what I said.

A virus is killing people, our cities are on fire and you're complaining about this. C'mon man! Joe Biden may be racist--as are many, many white people--but he's a whole lot better human being than that a-hole in the WH.

I'm not saying don't vote for him. I was responding to a post saying "If you vote for Trump that makes you a racist." My point stands - Biden's a racist too, just the liberal kind. Does voting for him make you a racist? Statistically speaking, probably. But correlation does not equal causality. There's about an 70-80% chance that anybody in America who votes at all is a racist, according to *my* definition of racism.

Anti police brutality riots are sweeping the nation and we nominated a candidate who said it's ok to shoot unarmed protestors. Wtaf.

It is an enormous shame that we had an opportunity to nominate a non-racist for this very, very winnable election and we chose Biden. He was literally my last choice among all the nominees. Hopefully he nominates a progressive VP and steps down after 4 years.