daoneandonly wrote:Come on Doc, you are one of the few I feel like we can have a discussion if we're on completely opposite sides but still have it be respectful. I dont side at all with those who overstayed their visas, the law is the law and there shouldn't be some arbitrary line or code on who gets to break it and who doesnt
Not sure why the concept of immigrants and minorities were even brought up in any post I referenced. I said medicaid and food stamps allotments are being abused because the broken system si allowing it to, and that absolutely includes born & raised Americans, whether white, black, or whatever.
Short term memory issue:
daoneandonly wrote:Taking money from programs that only help a small portion of the country and allotting it to things like immigration reform/birder security yeah, helps a great deal more
Understand the immigration ‘problem’ was a Trojan horse to allow Trump to create his own private army in ICE because the law enforcement agencies and military were proven to have too many rules and principles.
If you care about the law, rules and regulations, why is it okay for ICE to violate the law and without warrants kidnap people who are taking their case through the Immigration courts?
This illegally created army has been empowered to violate due process. Breaking the most important provision of the Constitution: that these laws apply to everyone.
No investigation. No proof. No defense. Violating illegal search and seizure laws. Miranda rights. The right to defense. Cruel and unusual punishment.
What reason is given for the extra judicial kidnapping and imprisonment. That we are at ‘war’ with the people who are picking fruit for your supermarket or working on construction sites or working dangerous conditions in meat packing plants.
For this it is okay to send them to a swamp. To imprison children. To deny them the ability to defend themselves, locking up and deporting citizens as well. For government officials to joke about providing food benefits to alligators.
Billions are being spent to create this army. It’s not saving any tax dollars. It is creating a new military branch to operate domestically. That has now been empowered to operate 100 miles from any border. Next step: any border state. Guess where all the states that voted against Trump are.
After that it’s any state with an airport. Then all federal highways. With the express directive that ICE does not have to obey the Constitution. They answer only to the Presidents executive orders. Because he has declared War, without the permission of the American people.
You support barbarism and expect civility. You think it is okay to allow babies to be deprived of food because maybe some adult somewhere would get an extra meal they don’t deserve. And you’re Christian. Who would Jesus starve? Who would Jesus allow to die of preventable childhood diseases. The fact that you aren’t sickened by this is depressing. By now. By now I would think that anyone with a scrap of morality would be saying ‘oh no. I made a mistake. I was lied to.’ Instead of showing up to gloat about it.
I am willing to talk with anyone on any side of a topic. But don’t be shocked to hear I am furious with you and deeply disappointed that you still, still, are defending this abuse of our laws and rights and Constitution. Under the guise of Law? Which ones. The ones that apply to the helpless.
Read all of the Bible’s quotes about what you do to the least of the people. The weak. Those in need. Then ask if ICE would be locking up the refugee Jesus for speaking out against the powerful. Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You should honestly have a long talk with your spirit and ask: is this really what we are here for? Locking up mothers and children because billionaires want tax cuts? And the fat golden Idol wants an army to use against anyone who tells him ‘no’.