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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#921 » by miller31time » Fri Mar 9, 2012 6:48 pm

Our starting frontcourt is 1/15 from the field including 0/3 for Padget and 0/4 from Len.
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#922 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:07 pm

miller31time wrote:Also, Alex Len is about as soft as they come -- both mentally and physically. He just crumbles if things aren't going his way. And I don't know if I've ever seen worse body language from an athlete before.

The fact that he was even contemplating thinking about the possibility of potentially entering the NBA Draft is the definition of insanity.


Unfortunate, but this is true.

Ruzious, I remember you cautioning against getting too excited about how good Alex Len looked doing drills in an otherwise empty gym.

miller, you're right on target about the mental part, IMO. Len likes contact even less than Pecherov did, before he went back to Europe. I hope Alex sticks it out at Maryland and develops his body and his mind to stand up to the physical part of the game--but I'm starting to wonder if he's up for it all.

I had high hopes for him. :(
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Post#923 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:11 pm

Stoglin dropping 30, gotta hope this doesn't delude him into thinking he's ready for the NBA.

If he leaves, however, it won't set the program back like Jordan Williams' departure did. With Williams, this team would have easily won 3 or 4 more games. Len's transition would have been much smoother, too. P'Shon Howard and Faust will form a more traditional backcourt. It will suck to lose Stoglin's scoring, but they'll manage to resemble a team IMO.

I don't think Stoglin will stupidly leave his scholarship on the table for a (brief IMO) pro career, but if he does, I think Turgeon won't miss him much. Ruz, you're right, they've had a lot of back-and-forth in the media. I feel kind of sorry for Stoglin, but I still like Turgeon and think he's doing a good job.

Hopefully, Stoglin will stay around to see the new recruits.
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#924 » by miller31time » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:17 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Stoglin dropping 30, gotta hope this doesn't delude him into thinking he's ready for the NBA.

If he leaves, however, it won't set the program back like Jordan Williams' departure did. With Williams, this team would have easily won 3 or 4 more games. Len's transition would have been much smoother, too.

I don't think Stoglin will stupidly leave his scholarship on the table for a (brief IMO) international career, but if he does, I think Turgeon won't miss him much. Ruz, you're right, they've had a lot of back-and-forth in the media. I feel kind of sorry for Stoglin, but I still like Turgeon and think he's doing a good job.

Hopefully, Stoglin will stay around to see the new recruits.


Stoglin isn't an idiot -- he knows that he's not projected to be drafted let alone sniff the 1st round. He has a lot of work to do on his game to make it professionally and I don't know how much interest he has in international basketball.

If I'm Turgeon, even though he and Stoglin have contrasting styles, I'm praying he doesn't leave.

Can you honestly say this team would have won half of the games we did this year without him?
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#925 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:32 pm

Well, it would be unfortunate if Stoglin leaves.

I edited what I wrote a bit above. I think they'd miss his points but in time having a playmaker and a taller SG might be something Turgeon can coach up. Half the wins? Depends on the recruits. The frontcourt will be beefy and they're adding one shooter.

miller, I don't know. I feel Turgeon coached them to play over their heads some. They got killed a few times. Looking at their youth, it will definitely hurt to not have Stoglin's points.

I hope he isn't stupid and that he doesn't leave. Right now, it doesn't look like Nick Faust is going to be all that good of a player.
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#926 » by miller31time » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:38 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:miller, I don't know. I feel Turgeon coached them to play over their heads some. They got killed a few times. Looking at their youth, it will definitely hurt to not have Stoglin's points.

I hope he isn't stupid and that he doesn't leave. Right now, it doesn't look like Nick Faust is going to be all that good of a player.


I'm right with you on Turgeon -- I think he's done a very good job with what he has which, admittedly, isn't much.

Where I disagree with you is Nick Faust. He's the kind of player that drives coaches crazy but I absolutely love his skill-set and size. He also has the "fearless' gene that you can't teach.

I think with time and coaching, he's going to be a very good player for us. My only problem with him is that he's asked to play point guard when he (to me) is best suited at sg,
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#927 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:47 pm

I just want Stoglin to stay 1 more year - to get us to the Harrison brothers. For those who don't know, the Harrison brothers (twins?) are both top 10 recruits for the class coming in 2013 that appear to have Maryland and Kentucky as their most likely destinations. One's a PG, and the other is a shooting guard. If MD gets them, that's HUGE for the program - even if they end up being 1 and done.

I have a feeling Len leaves MD - not to go to the NBA - but to transfer or go back overseas. Afterall, Turgeon recruited 3 guys who go 240 lbs or more for next season. He showed promise at mid season but then regressed. Gotta wonder what caused the problem - it's like he mentally checked out.
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Post#928 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:19 pm

Turgeon might need to throttle down on the guys? One thing I remember reading early on in Turgeon's era is one player said this coach is hard on you. I always thought Gary was a hard ass, but apparently, Turgeon gets harsh in ways they don't care for.

Could Turgs be more stringent than Gary?

Ruz, that's what I expect Len to do, also. I don't see how NCAA ball could be so much tougher than competing against the likes of Jonas Valanciunas. I do believe the development young big men receive overseas is more nurturing and probably better in the long haul.
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Post#929 » by FAH1223 » Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:38 pm

I doubt Stoglin leaves, he will be back.

Len will be back. From the people I know on campus who know him, tall dude likes school
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#930 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 9, 2012 10:20 pm

FAH1223 wrote:I doubt Stoglin leaves, he will be back.

Len will be back. From the people I know on campus who know him, tall dude likes school

With Cleare, Mitchell, and Dodd (though he may be red-shirted) recruited, I don't see a roll for Len. Padgett still has a year left, and I'm assuming Pankey's not transferring - so Mitchell's probably going to be mainly a backup center to Cleare. Mitchell was a top 100 prospect, so he's probably expecting playing time. The next year, Padgett leaves, but presumably Dodd takes his place - and they might add another front court recruit.
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#931 » by Rafael122 » Fri Mar 9, 2012 11:54 pm

This is why Turgeon has focued on beefing up the front court.
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Re: Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0 

Post#932 » by FAH1223 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:33 pm

Ruzious wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:I doubt Stoglin leaves, he will be back.

Len will be back. From the people I know on campus who know him, tall dude likes school

With Cleare, Mitchell, and Dodd (though he may be red-shirted) recruited, I don't see a roll for Len. Padgett still has a year left, and I'm assuming Pankey's not transferring - so Mitchell's probably going to be mainly a backup center to Cleare. Mitchell was a top 100 prospect, so he's probably expecting playing time. The next year, Padgett leaves, but presumably Dodd takes his place - and they might add another front court recruit.


with or without him, we will have a lot more front court depth come November... which I'm excited about... along with the guards getting to the next level
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Post#933 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:32 pm

Terrell Stoglin Intends To Test Draft Waters
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Terrell Stoglin is considering turnin pro, but in all likelihood will return to Maryland for his junior season.

“Pretty much right now I’m thinking about coming back” to Maryland, Stoglin said. “I just want to test the waters to see what my chances are.”

Stoglin, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound guard, averaged an ACC-best 21.6 points this season. He was a second-team all-conference selection.

“The chance of me coming back is pretty good,” Stoglin said. “I love Terp Nation. I love College Park.”



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Post#934 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:02 am

If Stoglin leaves, it could be to play overseas.

Came across a good article on players 10 years after the UMCP NCAA title team.

Drew Nicholas

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terp ... &track=rss

In Panathinaikos, Nicholas was a star for one of Europe’s preeminent basketball franchises. His time in Athens couldn’t have gone much better.

“Greece was probably the best, probably where I felt the most at home,” said Nicholas, whose top contract paid $1.5 million. “I think a lot of that had to do with just the success we had as a team there. We won the Euro League championship, pretty much like winning the Final Four in college basketball. It was just a great, great experience.”

Nicholas, who teamed up with former Terp Sarunas Jasikevicius to help Panathinaikos win the 2009 championship, had cemented his status as one of Europe’s top players during his time in Greece. He was a three-time Greek All-Star with two Euro League rings. Even Nicholas, a confident yet realistic person by nature, was somewhat surprised by his European success.

“At the time, I was in such a different mindset,” Nicholas said. “I remember going out there and every night, just coming with a huge, huge chip on my shoulder. It’s kind of like all I’ve been through in my career. Everybody talked about how I couldn’t play at Maryland and I’d never be an ACC starter. Those kinds of things, they just stuck with me. Every time I got a chance to play, I felt like I had something to prove. I played angry. I just dedicated my life to see how talented I could be.”


Andre Collins

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terp ... ory?page=2

Professionally and personally, Collins couldn’t be much happier with his state in life. He’s armed with a $300,000-or-so-contract in Europe’s top league, and is playing in a pick-and-roll-based system that suits him perfectly. His time at Maryland, meanwhile, serves as both a motivational tool and a constant reminder of what it was like to achieve ultimate team success.

“It definitely made me humble,” Collins said. “I’ve always been very competitive. I’ve always had a fire in me. It allowed me to step back from the game and just watch it. I learned from older players. I didn’t take basketball for granted after that. It made me really go back and work on my game, work to get better. It was a learning lesson for me. I think it’s very important that I went through it. That made me a better player and a better man.
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Post#935 » by Halcyon » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:28 pm

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Post#936 » by dlts20 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:54 am

I make this thread about this time every year. Its about my Lady Terps. I know that most men cant stand watching the women's game but when I was in HS I use to go to some, watched some WNBA back then, but then got really hooked when our Lady Terps started being pretty good around 2004 again. They won the title in 2006 in an awesome run.

They have a top notch team nearly every year. This year they are the 5th ranked team in the Nation and again just advanced to the elite 8. Today they came from 18pts down to beat the defending Champs in Texas A&M. It was on ESPN so you can go on there and find the replay if you care to watch. They will next play the #1 seed Notre Dame who went to the title game last year.

Its a big time matchup that everyone wants to see. The Irish are led by media darling Skylar Diggins who everyone fell in love with last year because she's a big time guard with good looks. They put out UCONN last year who hardly ever loses. They won the Big East this year over UCONN as Diggins was named an All American. Everyone wants to see the matchup because Notre Dame plays a 4 guard lineup while the Terps are a bigger team who is always in that top in the Nation in rebounding.

The Terps weakness is at the point every year so they may be doomed in this one. They are a young team who is led by Alyssa Thomas who was only the 2nd Sophmore in ACC history to win the conference player of the year award. The men Terps call her baby Bron Bron (as in baby Lebron James). She's a left hand SF who can do it all. Scoring, rebounding, & passing. They have a 2nd team all ACC player in PF Tiana Hawkins from Clinton, MD who went to Riverdale Baptist. She took a very hard fall in the game today and didnt return. If she doesnt play against Notre Dame then they will probably lose.

Theyre starting SG was a pretty big recruit named Lauryn Mincy but had a bad knee injury. She just now started to regain her big time play and has been there best player the past 2 games. She had 21pts & 12bds today. Off the bench they bring in a Senior name Lynetta Kizer who is a Center. She was the National POY in her Senior year of HS and started all 3 years until this her 4th season but she still plays alot.

They play Notre Dame on ESPN Tuesday at 9pm. Baylor is undefeated at 37-0 and is trying to be the 1st time ever to go 40-0 which most expect they will led by 6'8 phenom Brittany Griner. There are alot of analyst who think the only team that has a chance to beat them is Maryland because they are the only teams who have 3 big girls to matchup against Baylor but most dont think Maryland will make it to the title game to play them. They think they will either lose to Notre Dame or in the final 4 to UCONN but I believe.........lol
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Post#937 » by 7-Day Dray » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:27 am

Mods, please merge this with the Official Terps Thread. viewtopic.php?f=35&t=824452
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Post#938 » by miller31time » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:30 am

I actually watched the Lady Terps play today. Really gritty win coming back from a big deficit. Alyssa Thomas is a beast. She's got a great touch from mid-range, good handles and passing skills for a forward.

One minor correction -- Hawkins did come back from her tough fall, though it's uncertain how healthy she'll be in a few days (I'd imagine pretty sore after a fall like that).

Mincy played a great game. 12 rebounds and 3 blocks from a combo guard? To go along with 21pts (7/8fg, 2/2 3pt, 5/5ft). Amazing.
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Post#939 » by dlts20 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:35 am

miller31time wrote:I actually watched the Lady Terps play today. Really gritty win coming back from a big deficit. Alyssa Thomas is a beast. She's got a great touch from mid-range, good handles and passing skills for a forward.

One minor correction -- Hawkins did come back from her tough fall, though it's uncertain how healthy she'll be in a few days (I'd imagine pretty sore after a fall like that).

Mincy played a great game. 12 rebounds and 3 blocks from a combo guard? To go along with 21pts (7/8fg, 2/2 3pt, 5/5ft). Amazing.

are you sure she came back? I mean, she was on the bench but she didnt play, right?
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Post#940 » by miller31time » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:38 am

dlts20 wrote:are you sure she came back? I mean, she was on the bench but she didnt play, right?


Hmm, you may be right. I thought I remembered her checking back in, and then in the post-game show, Carolyn Peck (commentator) mentioned that she had played after the injury but her status for Notre Dame was uncertain.

That would be a big blow -- they mentioned that she led the ACC in fg% this season.

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