Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #941 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:49 pm

nate33 wrote:I recall Queta having concerning biomechanics with the way his knees collapsed when landing. Does anybody know if he has been durable so far?

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barelyawake · Post #942 » by **barelyawake** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:52 pm

Frankly, I’ve never wanted more for the team to be sold. And I’ve never wanted more for the pussy Washington media to do actual reporting. You have had two NBA players, including your “star,” say one of the major markets doesn’t try to play “serious” or “important” basketball. What does that really mean?

That said, a rebuild goes like this:

1) Tank until you have a shot at a possible top ten player.
2) Trade away players for draft picks.
3) Tank by creating a defensive and veteran culture that “happens to lose” from lack of offense.
4) Once your star is acquired, then construct team around him.

NO PLAYER ACQUIRED OR DRAFTED SHOULD PLAY BELOW AVERAGE DEFENSE.

80sballboy · Post #943 » by **80sballboy** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:10 pm

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Wizardspride · Post #944 » by **Wizardspride** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 12:43 am

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Godymas · Post #945 » by **Godymas** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 12:52 am

I love this off-season so far

if anything, the Wizards will actually be FUN for the first time in YEARS

Yes, it isn't a contending team, but THANK GOD the Bradley Beal era is over. Literally one of the worst eras in all of Wizards history.

prime1time · Post #946 » by **prime1time** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 1:51 am

With Coulibaly being as talented as he is, if Avdija isn't careful he might find himself completely out of the rotation.

prime1time · Post #947 » by **prime1time** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 1:52 am

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Kispert should start over Avdija. And Coulibaly should get big minutes. I wouldn't be surprised to see Avdija at the bottom of the bench.

payitforward · Post #948 » by **payitforward** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:09 am

I agree with prime -- let's see a ton of Kispert & ditto of Coulibaly.
But, no, Avdija should not be nailed to the pine. In fact, he should play a ton of minutes -- this is make or break year for him!

FAH1223 · Post #949 » by **FAH1223** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 10:41 am

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NatP4 · Post #950 » by **NatP4** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 1:23 pm

Jones 28 Shamet 20
Poole 32 Davis 16
Kispert 28 Coulibaly 20
Kuzma 32 Avdija 16
Gafford 24 Muscala/Vukcevic 24

Wright gets traded in a similar kind of deal as Morris. Poole and Kuzma will take away a lot of opportunity from Davis and Avdija, obviously.

doclinkin · Post #951 » by **doclinkin** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:12 pm

NatP4 wrote:Jones 28 Shamet 20
Poole 32 Davis 16
Kispert 28 Coulibaly 20
Kuzma 32 Avdija 16
Gafford 24 Muscala/Vukcevic 24

Wright gets traded in a similar kind of deal as Morris. Poole and Kuzma will take away a lot of opportunity from Davis and Avdija, obviously.

I don't think they're done yet. Currently we are:

PG Jones, Wright,
SG Poole, Shamet, Davis, Rollins, QJack 2way
SF Avdija, Kispert, Bilal, PBR
PF Kuzma, Gallo, Gill, Cooks
C Gafford, Muscala, Huff 2-way

With Vukcevic a possible draft and stash player.
Gallo a probable buy-out.
Shamet is a 2 guard, but maybe they would convert him to PG considering his 4.1 ast/g last year against 1.6to. Interesting to try.

PBR being an oversized wing and Cooks an undersized interior player you could flip flop them in this list. But I expect PBR will be working in the GLeague most of the time anyway. Likewise Rollins.

We are light at C considering Gafford only manages 20 mins a game in his career. Muscala does play the high post C that Wes likes to try. We may see heavier minutes for Huff than expected.

But we still have a logjam at the Forward and Wings. Even if we play Poole as a lead guard when Tyus sits. I'd bet we see more trades coming.

Post #952 » by **nate33** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:26 pm

I just hope the rotation settles down so that Deni and Kispert get 28+ minutes a night (more if they deserve it) and Coulibaly gets at least 16 minutes (and more if he is ready). That's pretty hard to do if Kuzma and Poole each start and play 32+ minutes.

There are only 144 total minutes available at the SG, SF and PF positions. If Kuzma and Poole combine for 64 of them, that leaves only 80 remaining minutes. One of Davis, Coulibaly or Shamet will definitely get squeezed, and Rollins and Jackson have almost no avenue to get minutes.

Maybe Poole plays the backup PG minutes to free up more wing minutes. Pair Poole with Avdija during those stretches and let Avdija actually run the offense.

DCZards · Post #953 » by **DCZards** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:34 pm

NatP4 wrote:Jones 28 Shamet 20
Poole 32 Davis 16
Kispert 28 Coulibaly 20
Kuzma 32 Avdija 16
Gafford 24 Muscala/Vukcevic 24

Wright gets traded in a similar kind of deal as Morris. Poole and Kuzma will take away a lot of opportunity from Davis and Avdija, obviously.

I don’t think Wright gets traded. He’s now the backup PG. (Shamet is a SG). And I expect (at least hope) the Zards want to keep Delon around for his awesome D, especially given that the backcourt D is shaky with Jones (at 6-2) and Poole.

NatP4 · Post #954 » by **NatP4** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:37 pm

I hope they keep Wright as well, but Shamet should NOT be in the rotation if that’s the case maybe another buyout??

We cannot bury Davis behind Poole&Shamet.

mhd · Post #955 » by **mhd** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:38 pm

nate33 wrote:I just hope the rotation settles down so that Deni and Kispert get 28+ minutes a night (more if they deserve it) and Coulibaly gets at least 16 minutes (and more if he is ready). That's pretty hard to do if Kuzma and Poole each start and play 32+ minutes.

There are only 144 total minutes available at the SG, SF and PF positions. If Kuzma and Poole combine for 64 of them, that leaves only 80 remaining minutes. One of Davis, Coulibaly or Shamet will definitely get squeezed, and Rollins and Jackson have almost no avenue to get minutes.

Maybe Poole plays the backup PG minutes to free up more wing minutes. Pair Poole with Avdija during those stretches and let Avdija actually run the offense.

With Gafford foul prone and limited by his asthma, I’d also slot Kuzma as a small ball center. He’s played it before. Maybe he gets 6 min a game at that position?

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #956 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:46 pm

My head is still spinning from all the activity and I can’t quite size up our list of assets.

A few things I’d really like to understand:

1. The nature of our ‘24 pick swap. What happens if somehow this roster stumbles into the play in and we lose our pick. Would we have the right to ‘swap’ our lost pick with Phoenix?

2. If the ‘30 top 20 protected pick from GSW doesn’t convey, does it just go away?

3. Which second did we get from Detroit? If it’s their pick from next year, it could be good.

NatP4 · Post #957 » by **NatP4** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 4:17 pm

2027 2nd from Detroit

Post #958 » by **nate33** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 4:32 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:My head is still spinning from all the activity and I can’t quite size up our list of assets.

A few things I’d really like to understand:

1. The nature of our ‘24 pick swap. What happens if somehow this roster stumbles into the play in and we lose our pick. Would we have the right to ‘swap’ our lost pick with Phoenix?

2. If the ‘30 top 20 protected pick from GSW doesn’t convey, does it just go away?

3. Which second did we get from Detroit? If it’s their pick from next year, it could be good.

1. No. It's a pick swap. If we gave our pick to the Knicks, there's nothing to swap with Phoenix.

2. Yes. It goes away. The Stephen Rule limits teams from trading any picks that are more than 7 years into the future. As far as the rule is concerned, the year 2031 doesn't exist, so there is no way Golden State could obligate that pick to us.

Post #959 » by **nate33** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 4:35 pm

mhd wrote:
nate33 wrote:I just hope the rotation settles down so that Deni and Kispert get 28+ minutes a night (more if they deserve it) and Coulibaly gets at least 16 minutes (and more if he is ready). That's pretty hard to do if Kuzma and Poole each start and play 32+ minutes.

There are only 144 total minutes available at the SG, SF and PF positions. If Kuzma and Poole combine for 64 of them, that leaves only 80 remaining minutes. One of Davis, Coulibaly or Shamet will definitely get squeezed, and Rollins and Jackson have almost no avenue to get minutes.

Maybe Poole plays the backup PG minutes to free up more wing minutes. Pair Poole with Avdija during those stretches and let Avdija actually run the offense.

With Gafford foul prone and limited by his asthma, I’d also slot Kuzma as a small ball center. He’s played it before. Maybe he gets 6 min a game at that position?

We might occasionally see Kuzma at center if the matchups are right. But it won't be regular enough to pencil it into the rotation pattern at all. I certainly don't see it happening for 500 minutes this season (82 games times 6 minutes). It'll probably happen for maybe 50 minutes.

Hibachi_0 · Post #960 » by **Hibachi_0** » Sat Jul 1, 2023 4:52 pm

I hope to see something like this, at least to start the season:

Jones 28 Poole 12 Davis 8
Poole 20 Kispert 16 Davis 12
Avdija 16 Coulibaly 20 Kispert 12
Kuzma 32 Avdija 16
Gafford 24 Vukcevic/Huff 24

It might not be realistic, but I want to see if either of Poole or Davis can play the 1 efficiently, more minutes of Kispert at the 2, a Davis - Kispert - Coulibaly - Deni - Gafford lineup (even with Vucevic instead of Gafford). Mainly, I hope to see the youngsters in different kinds of situations to see how they deal with them.