The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

[payitforward]

Machado just got cut loose, I know a lot of posters here were talking about him as a possible 2nd round target . . . any interest still?

There's a list of developmental young players who it'd be worth it to pick one of and carry him at the end of the roster for small $$. Machado could be one of them, and you could put others on the list as well.

But we don't go in for that kind of thing do we? And we're at 14 guys.

[nate33]

Machado just got cut loose, I know a lot of posters here were talking about him as a possible 2nd round target . . . any interest still?

There's a list of developmental young players who it'd be worth it to pick one of and carry him at the end of the roster for small $$. Machado could be one of them, and you could put others on the list as well.

But we don't go in for that kind of thing do we? And we're at 14 guys.

I don't see any reason why EG should fill that last roster spot up now. The 15th man is never going to play unless we have a rash of injuries at a single position. Problem is, we don't know which position (if any) that's going to be. If we sign Machado now, and then Okafor and Seraphin get hurt, we would need to cut Machado and then sign a big man off waivers. That would mean the money spent on Machado would be utterly wasted.

[ST21]

so are the wiz going to acquire that stretch 4 before the season or what?

my dream scenario is unloading Ariza for Illyasova somehow. but worst case scenario get Jamsion in somehow

[nuposse04]

so are the wiz going to acquire that stretch 4 before the season or what?

my dream scenario is unloading Ariza for Illyasova somehow. but worst case scenario get Jamsion in somehow

It'd take a somewhat protected '14 1st and some other "assets" which currently don't have. If one of Jan/Singleton have an early decent month maybe we can unload them while their stock goes up from atrocious to bad.

[GhostsOfGil]

I still think we should have traded the 3rd for Sova. Without that asset, we dont have enough to acquire him.

[Dat2U]

Machado just got cut loose, I know a lot of posters here were talking about him as a possible 2nd round target . . . any interest still?

There's a list of developmental young players who it'd be worth it to pick one of and carry him at the end of the roster for small $$. Machado could be one of them, and you could put others on the list as well.

But we don't go in for that kind of thing do we? And we're at 14 guys.

I don't see any reason why EG should fill that last roster spot up now. The 15th man is never going to play unless we have a rash of injuries at a single position. Problem is, we don't know which position (if any) that's going to be. If we sign Machado now, and then Okafor and Seraphin get hurt, we would need to cut Machado and then sign a big man off waivers. That would mean the money spent on Machado would be utterly wasted.

Yeah, I don't think you waste a roster spot now on a 3rd stringer. We've got enough roster filler without needing to add more.

[sfam]

so are the wiz going to acquire that stretch 4 before the season or what?

my dream scenario is unloading Ariza for Illyasova somehow. but worst case scenario get Jamsion in somehow

I don't know that we get Illyasova, but it would make sense to move Ariza for a stretch 4. Our best chance of this is midseason, assuming we're in the hunt (so teams notice us) and Ariza is making 3s. Then his value may be worth something to a team in need of a solid wing.

[gwizz]

Scott Machado just got cut by Warriors.. damn lots of fringe guards being dropped... I always liked Machado's game.

[Ruzious]

Am I wrong in saying there's a contrast between how the Wiz and Wall aggressively want to get their new contract done vs seemingly nothing happening between Sacramento and Cousins? Because Cousins is such a volatile unusual personality and Sacramento such a shakey franchise, I get the feeling anything could happen with him. Btw, Sac needs a small forward - just sayin.

[Rafael122]

Am I wrong in saying there's a contrast between how the Wiz and Wall aggressively want to get their new contract done vs seemingly nothing happening between Sacramento and Cousins? Because Cousins is such a volatile unusual personality and Sacramento such a shakey franchise, I get the feeling anything could happen with him. Btw, Sac needs a small forward - just sayin.

Well there's something on the wiretap suggesting the Kings are gonna begin negotiations w/Cousins so there ya go.

[LyricalRico]

Bucks quickly replace Ayon with a Euro big.

Seems to be an uptick in Euro signings the last couple of years. Prigioni, Teletovic and Shved last year (maybe others) and a few more this summer. Not second round picks that are finally coming over, but undrafted guys getting signed to FA deals. No stars, but relatively cheap reserve role players. Interesting trend.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Am I wrong in saying there's a contrast between how the Wiz and Wall aggressively want to get their new contract done vs seemingly nothing happening between Sacramento and Cousins? Because Cousins is such a volatile unusual personality and Sacramento such a shakey franchise, I get the feeling anything could happen with him. Btw, Sac needs a small forward - just sayin.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... th-Cousins

The Sacramento Kings will soon begin negotiations on a contract extension for DeMarcus Cousins.

Cousins is eligible for a five-year, $80 million extension that would go into effect for the 2014-15 season.

The Kings will be meeting with Cousins' agent, Dan Fegan, in the near future to discuss salary and contract length.

[barelyawake]

I find it very interesting as well that the day after Wall signs, the Sac start paying attention to Cousins' trade demand. Wall and Cousins talk every other day, according to them. I certainly see signs that Cousins (and Fegan) want a move, if negotiations go even a little sideways. BTW I don't know if anyone mentioned Maynor was a friend of Wall's before signing here. I expect this to get interesting, even if he signs an extension with the Kings.

[popper]

Don't want to cry over past mistakes but had we taken Zeller over Porter we would be a very tough team with sufficient front court depth to survive inevitable injuries to Nene or Okafor. As it is now, when a starting big goes down then it's Seraphon, Vesely, Booker and Singleton ..... Ugh

On the flip side, with Porter our target, why sign Webster? We could have signed Hickson for the MLE and had a heck of a front court rotation. EG always leaves us with some glaring defect because he doesn't know how to balance a roster. Last year it was point guard and power forward (we got lucky with Okafor's health). This year it's power forward and center. This doesn't have to continue to happen every season.

[mhd]

Don't want to cry over past mistakes but had we taken Zeller over Porter we would be a very tough team with sufficient front court depth to survive inevitable injuries to Nene or Okafor. As it is now, when a starting big goes down then it's Seraphon, Vesely, Booker and Singleton ..... Ugh

On the flip side, with Porter our target, why sign Webster? We could have signed Hickson for the MLE and had a heck of a front court rotation. EG always leaves us with some glaring defect because he doesn't know how to balance a roster. Last year it was point guard and power forward (we got lucky with Okafor's health). This year it's power forward and center. This doesn't have to continue to happen every season.

I was the biggest Porter basher. I was also initially a Zeller basher, but warmed up to him before the draft. The Wiz wanted an NBA-ready contributor. If that was the case, they should have taken Zeller. He'd actually be a key contributor this year and would provide a young big to build with. Porter, IMO, won't get ANY PT b/c Webster & Ariza are just better players than he is.

[montestewart]

Don't want to cry over past mistakes but had we taken Zeller over Porter we would be a very tough team with sufficient front court depth to survive inevitable injuries to Nene or Okafor. As it is now, when a starting big goes down then it's Seraphon, Vesely, Booker and Singleton ..... Ugh

On the flip side, with Porter our target, why sign Webster? We could have signed Hickson for the MLE and had a heck of a front court rotation. EG always leaves us with some glaring defect because he doesn't know how to balance a roster. Last year it was point guard and power forward (we got lucky with Okafor's health). This year it's power forward and center. This doesn't have to continue to happen every season.

I was the biggest Porter basher. I was also initially a Zeller basher, but warmed up to him before the draft. The Wiz wanted an NBA-ready contributor. If that was the case, they should have taken Zeller. He'd actually be a key contributor this year and would provide a young big to build with. Porter, IMO, won't get ANY PT b/c Webster & Ariza are just better players than he is.

I get the feeling that EG thinks the bigs rotation is deep.

Because of his slender frame, I never really thought of Porter as NBA ready, regardless of skills. Hopefully his first year sees a decent transition to the longer season and bigger bodied opponents.

[dckingsfan]

I get the feeling that EG thinks the bigs rotation is deep.

We aren't deep at PF (sarcasm )

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr., Garrett Temple
SF: Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Jan Vesely, Chris Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor

[dangermouse]

If we get desperate for a stretch 4... whats Vladimir Radmanovic been up to lately?

[hands11]

Don't want to cry over past mistakes but had we taken Zeller over Porter we would be a very tough team with sufficient front court depth to survive inevitable injuries to Nene or Okafor. As it is now, when a starting big goes down then it's Seraphon, Vesely, Booker and Singleton ..... Ugh

On the flip side, with Porter our target, why sign Webster? We could have signed Hickson for the MLE and had a heck of a front court rotation. EG always leaves us with some glaring defect because he doesn't know how to balance a roster. Last year it was point guard and power forward (we got lucky with Okafor's health). This year it's power forward and center. This doesn't have to continue to happen every season.

They are two deep at center the way I see it. Nene and Okafor. But Nene can also play PF.

If no other additions or trades are made, I think they play more small ball this year with Trevor A and Webster so as to free up some minutes for Otto at SF. So they can survive better if one of Nene and Okafor misses time because whoever remains will get 30 plus minutes to cover center. Kevin can handle the rest.

And if Booker stay healthy.. I think he will this year.. they have a 3rd pretty reliable player to play PF.

Keep in mind. Most the offense this year is going to come from Wall and Beal with Webster a solid 3rd wheel. So even as is, they are not as thin as they were last year when Wall and Beal hardly played together and Nene was injured going into the season. And Wall hadn't showed his improved jumper until later in the year. He will star the year with much more confidence in his jumper.

Not saying its idea losing one of Nene or Okafor, but they can get by much better then they did last year with Wall not starting the year...pre breakout, Beal a rookie with a slow start, Webster not establish after injuries, and Trevor A and Okafor new to the team.

So even though they haven't added to the front court, they are better positioned to deal with some missed games from Nene and Okafor. They team is much more established this year then last. Heck, Randy was even in his first year and they were learning to be a defensive team.

So even with lots of the same players, I don't see it as the same team.

[hands11]

I get the feeling that EG thinks the bigs rotation is deep.

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr., Garrett Temple
SF: Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Jan Vesely, Chris Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor, Garrett Temple
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, John Wall, Garrett Temple, Glen Rice Jr.
SF: Martell Webster, Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario,Trevor Ariza/Martell Webster, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Vesely, Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor, Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Jan Vesely

I think its a little more like this.