2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[MJG]

at this point ryan anderson max might be the best case scenario

you don't want to have 30 million in cap space available with terrence jones as the best player available and ernie grunfeld at GM

just...no

[nuposse04]

at this point ryan anderson max might be the best case scenario

you don't want to have 30 million in cap space available with terrence jones as the best player available and ernie grunfeld at GM

just...no

Id rather have t. jones at w/e he costs then Ryan friggin anderson at the max. If not T. Jones then A. Nicholson or M. Williams are decent players as well. One of those three+ Harkless+Tomas+random large center+McClellen is an ok offseason if we don't get any big name players.

[TGW]

Beal is an average player. If someone is going to give him the max, let it be another team. Sheesh...why do the Wizards always fold in these negotiations? It's pathetic and the usual mom-and-pop bs we've come accustomed to.

[AFM]

I'm depressed dad

[tontoz]

The Wiz didn't outbid themselves just as Toronto didn't outbid themselves. Everyone is going to get the max, so might as well not BS around and think guys like Beal and Derozan are going to accept a discount.

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

[Rafael122]

The Wiz didn't outbid themselves just as Toronto didn't outbid themselves. Everyone is going to get the max, so might as well not BS around and think guys like Beal and Derozan are going to accept a discount.

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

It's not that easy bro, who are you going to replace Beal with? Courtney Lee? Dion Waiters?

[80sballboy]

I heard mention somewhere that Mo Harkless was on the Zards radar screen. I like his potential....played well when he got quality minutes with Portland last season. He's only 23 and may have figured it out after not living up to expectations in Orlando.

Yes, he's another wing, like Porter and Oubre, but he's good defensively, athletic and long, has a nose for the ball and would be a good free agent pickup at the right price, whatever that is these days.

He played power forward for Portland at the end of the year and thrived. Only problem is his three-point shooting (27%) but with so few options, he's going to get $10-12M minimum. Apparently we are in the mix with about 4 other teams.

[pcbothwel]

The Wiz didn't outbid themselves just as Toronto didn't outbid themselves. Everyone is going to get the max, so might as well not BS around and think guys like Beal and Derozan are going to accept a discount.

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

It's not that easy bro, who are you going to replace Beal with? Courtney Lee? Dion Waiters?

Exactly, Tobias Harris and Tyson Chandler looked like terrible contracts last year. Now, not so much.

I hate maxing Beal, but if he takes the next step then his contract will not be holding us back.

[closg00]

The Wiz didn't outbid themselves just as Toronto didn't outbid themselves. Everyone is going to get the max, so might as well not BS around and think guys like Beal and Derozan are going to accept a discount.

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

It's not that easy bro, who are you going to replace Beal with? Courtney Lee? Dion Waiters?

One of the camp invites could possibly steal his job, no-need to panic. When Draymond Green was up for a new contract, GSW determined what others were willing to pay, THEN they made their offer.

[Rafael122]

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

It's not that easy bro, who are you going to replace Beal with? Courtney Lee? Dion Waiters?

One of the camp invites could possibly steal his job, no-need to panic. When Draymond Green was up for a new contract, GSW determined what others were willing to pay, THEN they made their offer.

This is a completely different market than a year ago. If Draymond signed the one year tender and made himself an UFA this year, how much do you think he'll get? A 6'9 point forward who could get a triple double in his sleep. $150 mil? $160?

[Wizardspride]

With the team pursuing Batum/Harkless does anyone think a potential Porter trade is in the works?


Just a vibe...

[Dark Faze]

there's literally no reason for harkless

he's absolutely not better than Otto and I don't even particularly like Otto

[tontoz]

The Wiz didn't outbid themselves just as Toronto didn't outbid themselves. Everyone is going to get the max, so might as well not BS around and think guys like Beal and Derozan are going to accept a discount.

If they don't accept a discount then let them walk.

It's not that easy bro, who are you going to replace Beal with? Courtney Lee? Dion Waiters?

Yes it is that easy. This past season they replaced him with Temple/Neal and had a similar record. Replacing average players is not difficult.

[stevemcqueen1]

Only big name we need is dwight...
Rather give Dwight 28 a year before giving Anderson anything over 20

Nah. Step away from the feeding frenzy. Keep Gortat at 12 million a year instead of doubling that to pay for a guy who isn't that much better any more. Dwight's back is messed up and he doesn't have the kind of game that ages gracefully. Let someone else spend all of their money on him.

If we try and replace Gortat with another C, it needs to be a young guy with the upside to be better than Gortat and justify the big salary we'll have to give him.

[nuposse04]

With the team pursuing Batum/Harkless does anyone think a potential Porter trade is in the works?


Just a vibe...

I think it is more assurance for the fact Oubre might take another season or 2 of seasoning and methodologies centered around relying on the Alan Anderson/Garett Temple's of the world finally seem dated to em... Porter a fine player. Trading him while retaining Beal is absurdly asinine... but it is EG so...

[80sballboy]

With the team pursuing Batum/Harkless does anyone think a potential Porter trade is in the works?


Just a vibe...

Batum is re-signing with the Hornets.

[stevemcqueen1]

With the team pursuing Batum/Harkless does anyone think a potential Porter trade is in the works?


Just a vibe...

I don't really get that sense. I think they're looking for a more powerful wing to play like 20-25 minutes a game. Harkless and Evan Turner fit that bill. I question how serious our interest in Batum really was.

I think our interest in wings says more about Oubre, and that they don't think he's ready to get a bunch of minutes this season.

[Dark Faze]

Only big name we need is dwight...
Rather give Dwight 28 a year before giving Anderson anything over 20

Nah. Step away from the feeding frenzy. Keep Gortat at 12 million a year instead of doubling that to pay for a guy who isn't that much better any more. Dwight's back is messed up and he doesn't have the kind of game that ages gracefully. Let someone else spend all of their money on him.

If we try and replace Gortat with another C, it needs to be a young guy with the upside to be better than Gortat and justify the big salary we'll have to give him.

Dwight is the better play by some length imo. You don't stand a chance in this league without rim protection. And the would at least make an all-star game in the East and bring SOME buzz. Mo Harkless and bringing back Dudley and the boys? Seriously? Wall is absolutely leaving with that effort.

[sashae]

I don't understand the "who are we going to replace him with" argument for Beal. He's league average at best, and misses 25% of his games -- what's the upside? Wow, we might make the 8th seed? This is what you pay the max for? EG blew this era of the team, utterly -- Wall has never had the right pieces around him, and now you're paying the mega-uber-max for what, Eric Gordon? Why!?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=bealbr01&p2=gordoer01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

[Rafael122]

I don't understand the "who are we going to replace him with" argument for Beal. He's league average at best, and misses 25% of his games -- what's the upside? Wow, we might make the 8th seed? This is what you pay the max for? EG blew this era of the team, utterly -- Wall has never had the right pieces around him, and now you're paying the mega-uber-max for what, Eric Gordon? Why!?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=bealbr01&p2=gordoer01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So answer the question, who would you replace Beal with.