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You'll find below the first post that Kevin has published on his blog on french sport website (=> http://www2.lequipe.fr/redirect-v6/home ... ncore.html )! I posted the second one something like one week ago. it's interesting because we can compare the first part of his season with this post and the second part of his season with the second one. This post has been published on January 16th 2012. 
We can see that KS continued to work on his game even if he didn't play at the beginning of the season. I think it shows the mentality of this kid. He has a great potential and he tries to become a real NBA BBall player. In the same time, the lock-out has been a good things for him because he played more with Victoria and he got some confidence thanks to this experience. If he continues to progress (above all on his last big weakness, the rebound), he will be a 15/10 guy in this league.
Seraphin: "Work again and again ..."
"Now, it's hard for us. The 2012 year doesn't start in the bast way for my team but we don't have to give up. We held a meeting with the staff and all the players a few days ago so that we can talk about the difficult period that we actually live. In this time of crisis, it is essential that the whole group sharing and speak together. Now it's up to us to stand together and improve our performance. We don't want to live a nightmarish season. This first part of the season is already complicated enough for the franchise, this period has to stop.
The coach Flip Saunders decided that we would have no more days off between games. So we have scheduled training continuously so that the group can work the play book. We are working hard, all we need is to have a few more wins to get back on track and start our season. Everyone was really happy after the first - and only - victory (for now) of the season (against Toronto, 93-78), but we don't have managed to have a run of wins. We must continue working and not too think about the very poor start of our season. There is no alternative but we have to continue to work, again and again.
The group feels some frustration, which is perfectly understandable. I have never experienced this kind of situation, and I can tell you that it's pretty hard to live. It's hard to go on losses and to be in negative dynamic. But this is only the beginning of the season, we still have time to turn things around. Our team is very young and inexperienced. We begin to know each other on an BBall point of view and the situation will get better, I believe. From an individual standpoint, I'm in good shape. However my playing time varies a lot, but I stay focused and I continue to work on my game. I decided to have extra training sessions every day, I come earlier to the collective training to work on my game, I stay again an hour after the end of the team training to work again. Just yesterday, I stayed an extra hour to work my shot. I am hungry for basketball, I want to keep progressing. My good performance against Philadelphia (tied career high with 12 points plus 5 rebounds and 3 blocks) make me more confident in my self and my abilities, even if we didn't win the game. On this game, I had a good feeling, I think I made good choices in the game It's good for confidence. I know I can help more the team, and this kind of game shows well what I am able to do for the team. My turn is coming, we have to remain patient."
            
                                    
                                    
                        We can see that KS continued to work on his game even if he didn't play at the beginning of the season. I think it shows the mentality of this kid. He has a great potential and he tries to become a real NBA BBall player. In the same time, the lock-out has been a good things for him because he played more with Victoria and he got some confidence thanks to this experience. If he continues to progress (above all on his last big weakness, the rebound), he will be a 15/10 guy in this league.
Seraphin: "Work again and again ..."
"Now, it's hard for us. The 2012 year doesn't start in the bast way for my team but we don't have to give up. We held a meeting with the staff and all the players a few days ago so that we can talk about the difficult period that we actually live. In this time of crisis, it is essential that the whole group sharing and speak together. Now it's up to us to stand together and improve our performance. We don't want to live a nightmarish season. This first part of the season is already complicated enough for the franchise, this period has to stop.
The coach Flip Saunders decided that we would have no more days off between games. So we have scheduled training continuously so that the group can work the play book. We are working hard, all we need is to have a few more wins to get back on track and start our season. Everyone was really happy after the first - and only - victory (for now) of the season (against Toronto, 93-78), but we don't have managed to have a run of wins. We must continue working and not too think about the very poor start of our season. There is no alternative but we have to continue to work, again and again.
The group feels some frustration, which is perfectly understandable. I have never experienced this kind of situation, and I can tell you that it's pretty hard to live. It's hard to go on losses and to be in negative dynamic. But this is only the beginning of the season, we still have time to turn things around. Our team is very young and inexperienced. We begin to know each other on an BBall point of view and the situation will get better, I believe. From an individual standpoint, I'm in good shape. However my playing time varies a lot, but I stay focused and I continue to work on my game. I decided to have extra training sessions every day, I come earlier to the collective training to work on my game, I stay again an hour after the end of the team training to work again. Just yesterday, I stayed an extra hour to work my shot. I am hungry for basketball, I want to keep progressing. My good performance against Philadelphia (tied career high with 12 points plus 5 rebounds and 3 blocks) make me more confident in my self and my abilities, even if we didn't win the game. On this game, I had a good feeling, I think I made good choices in the game It's good for confidence. I know I can help more the team, and this kind of game shows well what I am able to do for the team. My turn is coming, we have to remain patient."
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I decided to have extra training sessions every day, I come earlier to the collective training to work on my game, I stay again an hour after the end of the team training to work again. Just yesterday, I stayed an extra hour to work my shot. I am hungry for basketball, I want to keep progressing. My good performance against Philadelphia (tied career high with 12 points plus 5 rebounds and 3 blocks) make me more confident in my self and my abilities, even if we didn't win the game.
Gotta love this attitude. It was that Philly game that really caught my attention and made me think that he could be an effective scorer.
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Kevin Seraphin is my favorite Wizard.  He is very easy to root for.
            
                                    
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kevin Seraphin is my favorite Wizard. He is very easy to root for.
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tontoz wrote:I decided to have extra training sessions every day, I come earlier to the collective training to work on my game, I stay again an hour after the end of the team training to work again. Just yesterday, I stayed an extra hour to work my shot. I am hungry for basketball, I want to keep progressing. My good performance against Philadelphia (tied career high with 12 points plus 5 rebounds and 3 blocks) make me more confident in my self and my abilities, even if we didn't win the game.
Gotta love this attitude. It was that Philly game that really caught my attention and made me think that he could be an effective scorer.
EG starting to look like he was right by picking Seraphin. If he was in college I'm guessing he'd be a sophomore and he'd be a current lottery pick. He's doing things albeit on a losing team that project very well from my point of view. He has a body type, balance, foot work and coordination that could result in an effective NBA player. I wondered if his talent would ever come to the forefront and slowly you start to see he possesses things that are difficult to find in a big man. I hope he does very well in London this summer as I think confidence could really elevate him to the next step.
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Seraphin is proof why you don't trade young players on their rookie contracts for pennies on the dollar.  Last year at this time, certain posters (I won't say who) wanted to trade Seraphin for a ham sandwich, just so we could "at least get something in return." These are the same people who want to trade Vesely and Crawford for nothing this season.   
Seraphin is not only becoming a rotation-worthy big; he's showing that he's starting calibre. Sometimes guys need a year or two to catch up with the speed of the game, because the NBA is a different animal. I have no doubt that Vesely will progress in the same way...he has pro experience. But like any other foreign player [or young player for that matter], he needs time to acclimate himself to the NBA.
            
                                    
                                    Seraphin is not only becoming a rotation-worthy big; he's showing that he's starting calibre. Sometimes guys need a year or two to catch up with the speed of the game, because the NBA is a different animal. I have no doubt that Vesely will progress in the same way...he has pro experience. But like any other foreign player [or young player for that matter], he needs time to acclimate himself to the NBA.
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Agreed, TGW.
Not every player does catch up. Some never develop. But the ones who work hard tend to do that, and Seraphin is a workhorse.
Hopefully Ves can surprise us the same way.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Not every player does catch up. Some never develop. But the ones who work hard tend to do that, and Seraphin is a workhorse.
Hopefully Ves can surprise us the same way.
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I wasn't a big fan of Seraphin at all but he's really been playing well lately. I'm loving the idea of a Nene/Seraphin/Booker frontcourt trio.
            
                                    
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Seraphin is saving my fantasy team in the playoffs. Thank you, Sera. I'm glad I picked him up from free agency last week.
            
                                    
                                    
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According to nba.com, in 46 games as a starter this year, JaVale McGee has an Efficiency rating of 16.0.  In 10 games as a starter, Kevin Seraphin has an Efficiency rating of 16.2.
Just sayin'.
[I'd love to do this comparison with a more sophisticated metric, but have had trouble finding sites that publish such metrics on a game-to-game basis. Any suggestions are highly appreciated!]
            
                                    
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I think the same reason why NBA dream teams have trouble playing european style ball is the same kind of problem KS had in reverse.
Just enough different that it throws you off.
What a great guy though. I love players like this. Reminds of Caron. Young, hungry Caron, not old bitter Caron.
            
                                    
                                    Just enough different that it throws you off.
What a great guy though. I love players like this. Reminds of Caron. Young, hungry Caron, not old bitter Caron.
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Higga wrote:I wasn't a big fan of Seraphin at all but he's really been playing well lately. I'm loving the idea of a Nene/Seraphin/Booker frontcourt trio.
W/ nene's injury history I would still look to solidify the front court in the draft if we pick top 3 and Dvis or Robinson are available. Book's lack of versatility hurts. Seraphin and Vesely can play the 4 & 5 potentially. Booker's size limits him to minutes at the 4 only. I'd deal him for a 1st or a shooter
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Since march 1 Seraphin has shot under 50% from the field only twice. 
Over the last 7 games he has scored in double figures 6 times. In the other game he got 8 points in 21 minutes.
He has been a very consistent scorer the past few weeks.
            
                                    
                                    Over the last 7 games he has scored in double figures 6 times. In the other game he got 8 points in 21 minutes.
He has been a very consistent scorer the past few weeks.
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I came in here to post the same thing. Check out his game logs. Talk about consistency.
            
                                    
                                    
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The kid is the real deal.
            
                                    
                                    
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It will be interesting to see how well Kev does tonight.
As always, he can't get in foul trouble. If he can avoid
that, he could /really/ open some eyes tonight.
With Nene able to play the 4, they could be a bruising
combo next year. Maybe CCJ is right, we're not that far
off. A solid draft and a wise FA signing could vault us right
into the playoffs. Or maybe not. I do tend towards optimism.
            
                                    
                                    As always, he can't get in foul trouble. If he can avoid
that, he could /really/ open some eyes tonight.
With Nene able to play the 4, they could be a bruising
combo next year. Maybe CCJ is right, we're not that far
off. A solid draft and a wise FA signing could vault us right
into the playoffs. Or maybe not. I do tend towards optimism.
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity
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dobrojim wrote:It will be interesting to see how well Kev does tonight.
As always, he can't get in foul trouble. If he can avoid
that, he could /really/ open some eyes tonight.
With Nene able to play the 4, they could be a bruising
combo next year. Maybe CCJ is right, we're not that far
off. A solid draft and a wise FA signing could vault us right
into the playoffs. Or maybe not. I do tend towards optimism.
I think we are just a couple of decent vets on the wing away from a play-off team. Maybe we can use our pick to acquire Foye and Miller j/k
Seriously I think this team looks a lot better with a good player and a decent player on the wings. The PG position is set for a play-off level team. I think Nene and Seraphin or Booker work as the bigs for a play-off team. Vesely and Singleton will likely look a lot better as reserves and with a year of experience.
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Definitely some promising developments with regards to Seraphin. He's still a bit of a hack box, he needs to grab more boards and I'd like to see him draw more fouls but there's no doubt his improvement has been the most pleasant surprise of the season. 
I'm very happy to eat crow on this one. He looks like he might even turn out better than my initial Jahidi White projection for him.
I think him and Nene form a very formidable if a tad undersized duo at C.
            
                                    
                                    
                        I'm very happy to eat crow on this one. He looks like he might even turn out better than my initial Jahidi White projection for him.
I think him and Nene form a very formidable if a tad undersized duo at C.
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My optimism springs partly from the belief (mistaken?) that Nene and
Seraphin can co-exist at C and PF. This relieves us of having Booker,
one of your more freq points of pessimism, from having to be a starter.
Or do you (Dat) feel like that is not a workable lineup?
            
                                    
                                    Seraphin can co-exist at C and PF. This relieves us of having Booker,
one of your more freq points of pessimism, from having to be a starter.
Or do you (Dat) feel like that is not a workable lineup?
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dobrojim wrote:My optimism springs partly from the belief (mistaken?) that Nene and
Seraphin can co-exist at C and PF. This relieves us of having Booker,
one of your more freq points of pessimism, from having to be a starter.
Or do you (Dat) feel like that is not a workable lineup?
I don't know. I'm not sure what Seraphin's ceiling is yet. It's something that could be tried if we don't get a PF this offseason. Nene is certainly capable of sliding over to PF.
I have nothing against Booker. I just know what his ceiling is. He's the ideal backup PF. Outside of Taj Gibson, I can't think of a better PF to have off the bench. But as a starting PF, Booker is clearly in the bottom third of the league.














