The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

dangermouse · Post #981 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:47 am

I just pray to mighty Zeus EG doesnt send down a decree to Whitman to give Otto PF minutes in small ball lineups.

Don't ruin his development EG, he's our SF of the future. Please mate.

hands11 · Post #982 » by **hands11** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:34 pm

dangermouse wrote:I just pray to mighty Zeus EG doesnt send down a decree to Whitman to give Otto PF minutes in small ball lineups.

Don't ruin his development EG, he's our SF of the future. Please mate.

Otto getting some S4 PF minutes seems a distant goal at this point given what we saw at SL.

Nothing to worry about at this point. He only played two games and then was shut down.

3 months between now and things getting started. He could add some strength in that time for sure but I would only expect like 5-7 lbs in that time frame. And besides, as on right now, Trevor A and Webster can play that S4 role and all the SF minutes, so they don't need him to do it right away. Otto is a Trevor A replacement. Right now they are set up for Otto to get a year and another off season to learn, develop and add weight & strength. That's a good amount of time.

The way they are set up with Wall, Maynor, Temple, Beal, Webster, Trevor A, Nene, and Okafor and maybe Blair, I think that would be the core of the team to start the year.

They have time to bring Otto along. Its not like it was last year with Beal where because of talent and injuries, they needed him to help right away.

Adding Otto was not about him being NBA ready this year, it was about his all around game and how he fits on the team next to Wall and Beal longer term. That longer term doesn't until next year, not this year. Anything he gives them this year is more gravy then anything. Question is, how much of that gravy will they get in year 1. No doubt it could help. But if they don't get to it, they are still covered at SF this year. But next year, they need him to be reliable and contributing at least at Trevor A's level so he has a lot of learning to do this year.

As a bench mark, Otto needs to show he can produce on the court starting around mid January. At least as long as Webster and Trevor A are healthy. If one goes down, he will need to produce sooner.

deneem4 · Post #983 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:56 pm

^^Adding otto was all about him being nba ready this yr...thats all scouters talked about btw

Post #984 » by **montestewart** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:06 pm

dangermouse wrote:I just pray to mighty Zeus EG doesnt send down a decree to Whitman to give Otto PF minutes in small ball lineups.

Don't ruin his development EG, he's our SF of the future. Please mate.

Maybe the Wizards don't really think getting a stretch 4 is a priority. Have EG or Wittman ever commented on that?

hands11 · Post #985 » by **hands11** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:30 pm

deneem4 wrote:^^Adding otto was all about him being nba ready this yr...thats all scouters talked about btw

Scouters say lots of things. What I mostly heard them say was he had the best all around game and had low bust potential.

As of right now, I don't see signs pointing to the Wizards adding him because they were looking for him to be NBA ready next year. Now if they move Trevor A so he is either the primary starting SF or back up with no one else to turn to, then I might think they felt that way. But as of now, he is the 3rd SF. I don't see that as a sign they added him because he was NBA ready. Regardless of what "scouters" said.

For now, it looks like he is Trevor A's replacement next year.

hands11 · Post #986 » by **hands11** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:35 pm

montestewart wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I just pray to mighty Zeus EG doesnt send down a decree to Whitman to give Otto PF minutes in small ball lineups.

Don't ruin his development EG, he's our SF of the future. Please mate.

Maybe the Wizards don't really think getting a stretch 4 is a priority. Have EG or Wittman ever commented on that?

Yeah, they said that the S4 could already be on the team. Many felt they meant Trevor A, but there have been some comments that it could be Webster because he is stronger.

Feels like a Ryan Anderson level S4 isn't going to happen until trade deadline or next summer. I think they are evaluating what they have first from Trevor A, Webster, Otto, and Singleton.

Only trade rumor really out there is D Blair.

We will see.

deneem4 · Post #987 » by **deneem4** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:47 am

hands11 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:^^Adding otto was all about him being nba ready this yr...thats all scouters talked about btw

Scouters say lots of things. What I mostly heard them say was he had the best all around game and had low bust potential.

As of right now, I don't see signs pointing to the Wizards adding him because they were looking for him to be NBA ready next year. Now if they move Trevor A so he is either the primary starting SF or back up with no one else to turn to, then I might think they felt that way. But as of now, he is the 3rd SF. I don't see that as a sign they added him because he was NBA ready. Regardless of what "scouters" said.

For now, it looks like he is Trevor A's replacement next year.

Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu...his ceiling is low becaue of his athleticism and strength, otto was never thought to be thth developing type player thts why expectations was so high in summer league...he wmas looked at to be a contributer now..

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #988 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:49 am

hands11 wrote:
montestewart wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I just pray to mighty Zeus EG doesnt send down a decree to Whitman to give Otto PF minutes in small ball lineups.

Don't ruin his development EG, he's our SF of the future. Please mate.

Maybe the Wizards don't really think getting a stretch 4 is a priority. Have EG or Wittman ever commented on that?

Yeah, they said that the S4 could already be on the team. Many felt they meant Trevor A, but there have been some comments that it could be Webster because he is stronger.

Feels like a Ryan Anderson level S4 isn't going to happen until trade deadline or next summer. I think they are evaluating what they have first from Trevor A, Webster, Otto, and Singleton.

Only trade rumor really out there is D Blair.

We will see.

I can't even believe I'm saying it.... but if we really need a stretch 4, what about bringing back Yi Jianlian. The one thing he could do was stroke some 3's. He's still only 25, and with Wall running pg he might actually be a fit on this team as a spot up shooter.

hands11 · Post #989 » by **hands11** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:11 am

deneem4 wrote:
hands11 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:^^Adding otto was all about him being nba ready this yr...thats all scouters talked about btw

Scouters say lots of things. What I mostly heard them say was he had the best all around game and had low bust potential.

As of right now, I don't see signs pointing to the Wizards adding him because they were looking for him to be NBA ready next year. Now if they move Trevor A so he is either the primary starting SF or back up with no one else to turn to, then I might think they felt that way. But as of now, he is the 3rd SF. I don't see that as a sign they added him because he was NBA ready. Regardless of what "scouters" said.

For now, it looks like he is Trevor A's replacement next year.

Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu...his ceiling is low becaue of his athleticism and strength, otto was never thought to be thth developing type player thts why expectations was so high in summer league...he wmas looked at to be a contributer now..

I don't believe I mentioned his ceiling. I said he had a low bust potential and was thought to have a good all around game.

2nd, Is there something wrong with your keyboard ?

jimij · Post #990 » by **jimij** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:14 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
hands11 wrote:
montestewart wrote:Maybe the Wizards don't really think getting a stretch 4 is a priority. Have EG or Wittman ever commented on that?

Yeah, they said that the S4 could already be on the team. Many felt they meant Trevor A, but there have been some comments that it could be Webster because he is stronger.

Feels like a Ryan Anderson level S4 isn't going to happen until trade deadline or next summer. I think they are evaluating what they have first from Trevor A, Webster, Otto, and Singleton.

Only trade rumor really out there is D Blair.

We will see.

I'd rather play Ves 35 minutes per game than bring back Yi.....

I can't even believe I'm saying it.... but if we really need a stretch 4, what about bringing back Yi Jianlian. The one thing he could do was stroke some 3's. He's still only 25, and with Wall running pg he might actually be a fit on this team as a spot up shooter.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #991 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:24 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I can't even believe I'm saying it.... but if we really need a stretch 4, what about bringing back Yi Jianlian. The one thing he could do was stroke some 3's. He's still only 25, and with Wall running pg he might actually be a fit on this team as a spot up shooter.

Get up from the fantasy GM chair for a little while and take a break. Go recharge your batteries. Drink a beer, watch a movie, spend time with your family. A Yi Jianlian suggestion means you've gotten to a weird place.

I honestly don't have a single memory of Yi Jianlian doing something positive on a basketball court. I'd much, much, much rather just play Otto or Ariza at the 4 if we want 3 point shooting there. Hell, I'd rather trot Vesely and Singleton out there and have them hoist threes. Outside Wall, Seraphin, and Booker, I never want to revisit any of the players from 2010-2011 ever again.

payitforward · Post #992 » by **payitforward** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:37 am

hands11 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu...his ceiling is low becaue of ...

Is there something wrong with your keyboard ?

It's not his keyboard, Hands, it's his crystal ball. His crystal ball is telling him he knows how much upside a kid who just turned 20 has.

Imagine if you actually knew something like that? You wouldn't have to work for a living at all. Just go around the young players and tell GMs what their possibilities are and what their limits are. How good they can be and how mediocre they are going to be.

Can you imagine how valuable that skill would be? I mean... guys like Sam Presti, Darryl Morey and so forth don't have that skill.

dckingsfan · Post #993 » by **dckingsfan** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:42 am

hands11 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
montestewart wrote:I get the feeling that EG thinks the bigs rotation is deep.

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr., Garrett Temple
SF: Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Jan Vesely, Chris Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor, Garrett Temple
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, John Wall, Garrett Temple, Glen Rice Jr.
SF: Martell Webster, Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario,Trevor Ariza/Martell Webster, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Vesely, Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor, Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Jan Vesely

I think its a little more like this.

Sorry, I was just trying to be sarcastic... it didn't come across well. I was echoing montestewart dig at EG.

I think you are probably correct.

Post #994 » by **montestewart** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:56 am

deneem4 wrote:Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu

I've been saying for a long time that along with a strip 4 and a goo cumbo gourd, the Wizards biggest need is an nba rwsdy glue gu.

Post #995 » by **LyricalRico** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:42 pm

montestewart wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu

I've been saying for a long time that along with a strip 4 and a goo cumbo gourd, the Wizards biggest need is an nba rwsdy glue gu.

AFM · Post #996 » by **AFM** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Deneem posting with his nose again.

doclinkin · Post #997 » by **doclinkin** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:11 pm

montestewart wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu

I've been saying for a long time that along with a strip 4 and a goo cumbo gourd, the Wizards biggest need is an nba rwsdy glue gu.

Nawp. The problet with this cheem is nwt the glu gu but the bigman derps. Serious, if we wnly herd a kulity bigman derps weed have contender in the xastern conference. A strip 4 is a lungfish on this term, nice to have but not a nobility, but I have to agree on teh gumbo gourd, this leech basally necessitates that you have a versible backup scroter and ballsfondler off the bench. Check the lest frew Championhsip squads abd you see how clear that is.

hands11 · Post #998 » by **hands11** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:47 pm

payitforward wrote:
hands11 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Otto ceiling is actually the lowest out of everyone in the top 5 maybe 10...he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu...his ceiling is low becaue of ...

Is there something wrong with your keyboard ?

It's not his keyboard, Hands, it's his crystal ball. His crystal ball is telling him he knows how much upside a kid who just turned 20 has.

Imagine if you actually knew something like that? You wouldn't have to work for a living at all. Just go around the young players and tell GMs what their possibilities are and what their limits are. How good they can be and how mediocre they are going to be.

Can you imagine how valuable that skill would be? I mean... guys like Sam Presti, Darryl Morey and so forth don't have that skill.

Actually it was a serious question..lol

"he qad said to be an nba rwsdy glue gu...his ceiling is low becaue of"

A glue gu ?

Post #999 » by **montestewart** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:55 pm

doclinkin wrote:a versible backup scroter and ballsfondler off the bench

It's I've lik been parying fit all these day aloob

hands11 · Post #1000 » by **hands11** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:24 am

dckingsfan wrote:
hands11 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr., Garrett Temple
SF: Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Jan Vesely, Chris Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor

PG: John Wall, Eric Maynor, Garrett Temple
SG: Bradley Beal, Martell Webster, John Wall, Garrett Temple, Glen Rice Jr.
SF: Martell Webster, Trevor Ariza, Otto Porter Jr.
PF: Nenê Hilario,Trevor Ariza/Martell Webster, Kevin Seraphin, Trevor Booker, Vesely, Singleton
C: Emeka Okafor, Nenê Hilario, Kevin Seraphin, Jan Vesely

I think its a little more like this.

Sorry, I was just trying to be sarcastic... it didn't come across well. I was echoing montestewart dig at EG.

I think you are probably correct.

Oh. My bad.

If you need help with that. Ask PIF or montestewart . Think they are the board experts with that.

I just pissed my paints reading Montys Glue Gu post..