Expectations for Wall

[montestewart]

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I remember when John Kerry came on stage at the dem convention and saluted. I knew then he was going to lose. Every time Mcgee does that, I think of Kerry, I think "loser," and I wish he'd stop that. I remember Auerbach griping about modern players slapping each other on the back and high-fiving after every play, even on missed foul shots. You could tell it drove him crazy. Oh well, I guess if McGee's doing that ten times a game, that would probably be good, right?

[B-easy]

Wall will score more than 12 points, more like 15-17 with about 6assists, and 1.3 steals. Plus he'll probably be the one taking the last shot in close games like he did for Kentucky, he is absolutely clutch.

[RickRoll_inDC]

]How about
10pts
20 ass(ists)
10 stl
10 reb

Arenas will have 45pts and 2 assists

Our back court can put up 55pts and 22 assists

And McGee will get a quadruple-double: 10 blocks, 10 boards, 10 alley-oops, and (incredibly, unprecedented) 10 fouls.

you had me until 10 fouls, c'mon keep this thread realistic

10 of these?

[/quote]

I think that was implied with the 10 alley-oops

As for Wall- something around 14 and 5. He won't get 40 minutes a night with Gilbert still taking time at PG. Then he could easily improve by 50% and be getting 21 and 7.5 in a year or two.

[Illuminaire]

Hmm. Factoring the rookie wall and one random groin injury (he will be playing for the Wizards, after all)...

I'm going to say 14.5 points, 6.1 assists, 3.9 rebounds and 1.9 steals. If he learns to draw contact regularly at this level, up the points to 16.5.

[willbcocks]

I'm predicting Gil gets shipped off at some point. And I think this board is overestimating the players on are roster--most of them are pretty lousy. Wall could get some serious points...

[closg00]

I'm predicting Gil gets shipped off at some point. And I think this board is overestimating the players on are roster--most of them are pretty lousy. Wall could get some serious points...

I'd be surprised if we can unload Gil's contract w/o giving-up a pick or taking-back a bad contract.
As-far as the roster goes, let's see what we have after the draft and FA, we really don't have a roster yet.

[MJG]

Hmm. Factoring the rookie wall and one random groin injury (he will be playing for the Wizards, after all)...

I'm going to say 14.5 points, 6.1 assists, 3.9 rebounds and 1.9 steals. If he learns to draw contact regularly at this level, up the points to 16.5.

If I didn't know better, I'd assume you just copied Derrick Rose's rookie numbers: 16.8 PPG, 6.3 APG, 3.9 RPG, 0.8 SPG.

[montestewart]

Hmm. Factoring the rookie wall and one random groin injury (he will be playing for the Wizards, after all)...

I'm going to say 14.5 points, 6.1 assists, 3.9 rebounds and 1.9 steals. If he learns to draw contact regularly at this level, up the points to 16.5.

If I didn't know better, I'd assume you just copied Derrick Rose's rookie numbers: 16.8 PPG, 6.3 APG, 3.9 RPG, 0.8 SPG.

That's where I got my 17p 4rb 6ass.

Yeah, If Arenas leaves, easily up the scoring.

[hands11]

Ah year ago is was a dream of mine that we would land Wall this year. Now with the number one pick in our hands is still looks good but it just reminds me of what we are still missing. We need our PP, Gasol, Kobe players.

I actually think Gil can be R Allish so that's good and we would have a PG to grow around for years which is good. I just wonder if top pick to to much to pay of it. Dray can be an Odom or better. We will have pieces. Just need to keep building. More front line and that special SF/SG to top it off.

[DaRealHibachi]

Ah year ago is was a dream of mine that we would land Wall this year. Now with the number one pick in our hands is still looks good but it just reminds me of what we are still missing. We need our PP, Gasol, Kobe players.

I actually think Gil can be R Allish so that's good and we would have a PG to grow around for years which is good. I just wonder if top pick to to much to pay of it. Dray can be an Odom or better. We will have pieces. Just need to keep building. More front line and that special SF/SG to top it off.

I think Gil is a much better scorer than Allen, he's also a legit first option on a NBA team...

[B-easy]

Anyone think that, down the line, wall could be a scoring guard. Like a D-wade who switches between SG and PG in game.

[Illuminaire]

If I didn't know better, I'd assume you just copied Derrick Rose's rookie numbers: 16.8 PPG, 6.3 APG, 3.9 RPG, 0.8 SPG.

Wow, I had no idea actually. I suddenly feel very smart though!

[Illuminaire]

Ah year ago is was a dream of mine that we would land Wall this year. Now with the number one pick in our hands is still looks good but it just reminds me of what we are still missing. We need our PP, Gasol, Kobe players.

I actually think Gil can be R Allish so that's good and we would have a PG to grow around for years which is good. I just wonder if top pick to to much to pay of it. Dray can be an Odom or better. We will have pieces. Just need to keep building. More front line and that special SF/SG to top it off.

Gil can't fill the defensive roll that Allen does, but he could certainly model the offensive side of Ray's career. Efficient scoring, stretching the floor, and making plays for teammates are right up his alley.

I agree with the rest. We don't need a complete big man, but we do need at least someone with elite defensive and rebounding skills. We'll have enough scoring and playmaking, especially if Blatche keeps developing his game down low. An athletic SF/SG and a defensive scheme that doesn't suck would be the icing on the cake. Man. I am psyched!

[verbal8]

Anyone think that, down the line, wall could be a scoring guard. Like a D-wade who switches between SG and PG in game.

I think his measurements and game are similar to Wade. I think he is more likely to start out as a scoring guard first and then become more of a PG as he gets experience.

[Ruzious]

While there are some similarities between Wade and Wall - in speed and explosiveness to the basket, I don't see them as similar style players. Wall is a PG who doesn't force the action in the half court. Wade is a more physical and aggressive scorer.

[dangermouse]

Ray Ray is a much better 3 point shooter than Arenas and better at the catch and shoot in particular.

Toot toot, thread derailment!

Allen went from being the #1 option in Seattle to being the 3rd option in Boston. However I think his game was such that it was easy for him to adapt to his new role. Arenas will have a harder time.

[B-easy]

Anyone think that, down the line, wall could be a scoring guard. Like a D-wade who switches between SG and PG in game.

I think his measurements and game are similar to Wade. I think he is more likely to start out as a scoring guard first and then become more of a PG as he gets experience.

Really?, i thought it would be the other way around, once he gets his jumper going.

[keynote]

Speaking of Wall's jumper:

MrMichaelLee
Wall's J is improving. Had to hit 7/10 shots from 7 spots. Kept making himself need to hit final shot. Kept making it. Kid loves pressure

[Dat2U]

Speaking of Wall's jumper:

MrMichaelLee
Wall's J is improving. Had to hit 7/10 shots from 7 spots. Kept making himself need to hit final shot. Kept making it. Kid loves pressure

This is why you take Wall #1. Work ethic, intangibles, the desire to be the best.

Cousins has all the talent but none of the above.

Turner has all the above but is not nearly as talented

[B-easy]

More people will come to watch John wall, than cousins or turner. He's more marketable because of his flashy play and personality. He's got a chance to be one of the most popular players in the nba along with huge sales with his jersey.