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Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:47 pm
by closg00
Gilbert Arenas is welcoming a chance for a fresh start with the Washington Wizards thanks to the Ted Leonsis takeover, according to team and league sources. The fallen star is also excited about the prospects of playing with Kentucky guard John Wall, whom Washington is expected to select with the top pick in next month's NBA draft.

http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/mikejones


Who knows what to believe, but the org is now putting-out a more positive message now.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:53 pm
by Hoopalotta
Excellent news.

I'm a lot more inclined to believe Mike Jones than John Mitchell.

Let's wiretap this mug so that the general board's Trades & Transactions board quits piddling on us!

Good. To. Hear.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:04 pm
by keynote
Hear, hear. Good job, "Who?"

What's the process for getting this thing on the 'Tap?

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:22 pm
by queridiculo
Let's see if we can get 15 pages out of this one!

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:24 pm
by AceDegenerate
Very happy to read this. What else would you expect from Gilbert? There has been some serious questioning of his character in the media, but as Wizards fans we should all know that he is a good guy at heart, and is willing to do what is asked of him to win games. He hasn't played in 3 years, and like the article says he just wants to play.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:25 pm
by WizStorm
I hope to see quite a few more articles like this, especially giving more details about what happened in the meeting between Gil and Ted and exchanges between Wall and Gil.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:28 pm
by AceDegenerate
I think that Gilbert has always paid an interest in our draft picks. I remember specifically him getting Blatche's phone # the night of the draft, and got in touch with him right away. I believe that Gilbert will be instrumental in improving Wall's jump shot. Those shooting contests between he & Stevenson were directly responsible for Deshawn shooting 50% from the field for that one year. Arenas & Wall should really help each other a lot in practice.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:28 pm
by verbal8
keynote wrote:Hear, hear. Good job, "Who?"

What's the process for getting this thing on the 'Tap?

It really doesn't leave a whole lot of room for sensational headlines, so it probably won't make the wiretap.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:38 pm
by WizarDynasty
I have a serious problem with arenas and wall spending hours together in the gym as gym rats....gilbert is going to transform wall into a ...... and it has someting to do with basketball iq and position...not character...
Wall is going to have one side of his game extremely developed while the other side is heavily de emphasized while spending countless hours in the gym with gil...and it has nothing to do with defense.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:39 pm
by AceDegenerate
WizarDynasty wrote:I have a serious problem with arenas and wall spending hour together in the gym....gilbert is going to transform wall into a ......


Whaaaat? Gil spends hours in the gym with the Wades, LeBrons, and Anthony's of this league. What harm is he going to cause Wall?

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:44 pm
by NbdyBeatsTheWiz
WizarDynasty wrote:I have a serious problem with arenas and wall spending hours together in the gym....gilbert is going to transform wall into a ......


great jump shooter with a good work ethic?

People underestimate the fact Wall is his own man and seems to have a solid head on his shoulders. I read he doesn't have braids, tats, or sag his pants because he realizes kids look up to him, even at his age of 19. Is it possible that that changes as he spends time in the NBA? Yes, but I don't think it will happen while spending time in the gym with Arenas (any moreso than spending time with knuckleheads who spent their first seasons with very little work ethic- NY, Blatche, McGee...)

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:06 pm
by verbal8
NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:I have a serious problem with arenas and wall spending hours together in the gym....gilbert is going to transform wall into a ......


great jump shooter with a good work ethic?

People underestimate the fact Wall is his own man and seems to have a solid head on his shoulders.

I am sure that Wall has had a chance to pick up far worse influences than Arenas, and as far as we know he has not. If he had the potential to get side-tracked I think there would be some evidence of it already.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:10 pm
by closg00
Sad, we can't even say that Wall will be in good hands once he gets here. Afterall, Ed Tapscott is still in-charge of Player Development :( :evil:

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:14 pm
by montestewart
NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:I have a serious problem with arenas and wall spending hours together in the gym....gilbert is going to transform wall into a ......


great jump shooter with a good work ethic?

People underestimate the fact Wall is his own man and seems to have a solid head on his shoulders. I read he doesn't have braids, tats, or sag his pants because he realizes kids look up to him, even at his age of 19. Is it possible that that changes as he spends time in the NBA? Yes, but I don't think it will happen while spending time in the gym with Arenas (any moreso than spending time with knuckleheads who spent their first seasons with very little work ethic- NY, Blatche, McGee...)

Improving his jump shot can only help Wall's game. Based on what I've heard about Wall, I agree that Arenas' offensive focus is unlikely to sway Wall. Stevenson spent a lot of time w/ Arenas, and he still played hard defense. Wall may look up to Arenas somewhat, or he may not, but Wall will come in as the #1 pick, the closest thing Arenas has had to an equal since his first year w/ the Wizards, and likely the clear #1 on the team very soon, if not immediately. Who knows? Maybe the important influence will be that which Wall has on Arenas.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:16 pm
by WizarDynasty
Arenas is a scorer first and he treasurers nothing more than getting the ball in the basket. I don't see arenas sitting with wall for hours and dissecting the top playoff teams defenses and evolving strategies of his point guard to beat it. Gil will tranform wall into next arenas...which means wall will be a lot closer to kobe bryant at the end of day instead of the floor general outsmarting top team defensive schemes.
Arenas has excellent character but he values scoring over schematically outsmarting his opponent. That mentality works great for a scorer but a point guard has to value attacking all the weak points of a top level defense with great passes. This component of wall's brain won't be developed by arenas while they both duel it out for countless hours shooting competitve horse..or three point contest.
Wall may emerge has the best one one offensive player in the game but his basketball iq for how adjust a play on the fly to attack a defensive adjustment will be extremely weak. I don't see arenas and wall sitting in the office for hours studying other teams defenses and drawing up complex plays to attack the best defenses. This would probably happen if wall and jason kidd were together..or wall and steve nash...maybe even wall and d williams/sloan influence....but definitely not wall arenas. Arenas is a scorer not the guy who understand nuances of what the weak points are on thib defense and what passes to make...what an individual players weakness is ect. Gil isn't a cerebral guy...he is more of doer that reacts...he is spontaneous and on the fly creative...but doesn't sit down and pre mediate how to attack...which is wall needs to do..to reach his full potential as a point guard. Cassell a shoot first point guard isn't going to help that much either. Right now wall is a passfirst gifted scorer--but his mentality won't be rewarded--with cassell and arenas---they both value hitting the big shot--versus improving the basketball iq of the players u are leading. Wall has to start of with the authoirty to guide his players to the correct points since he is the primary. All handler..but arenas...when he was point guard...stuck to his gift of scoring...and wasn't nearly as effective when we ask him to be a passer and stop trying to lead the league the league in points scored...
Arenas is a gifted scorer and not many guards have the ability to lead the league in scoring..we were fortunate to even have a player on the roster with that gift. We asked arenas to ignote his gift and instead be a floor general which means to arenas..make your extremely rare gift of scoring...and set your team mates up. Wall'4 gift right now is that he naturally sets up his team mates coming out of college. Arenas naturally scores. Wall is extremely young right now...and his playing style can easily lose the ability to set up his teammates because he is such an explosive athlete. It is important that he is in a situation that fosters his floor general skills..just as it hurt arenas to push him to be a floor general when he is gifted at getting the ball in the bucket. In summary..we need wall to develop his floor general iq skills and this won't happen with gil because gil is monster when it comes to scoring. Gil will do all he can to make wall the best player possible but gil's ego makes gil think he is a floor general instead of one the most gifted scorers in the league. This cockiness of gil thinking he is point guard when he is a shooting guard will cause gil to transfer shooting guard tendencies...to wall instead of floor general traits of a point guard such as nash d will and kidd in his prime. Will wall be able ignore arenas well intended teachings and still develop his strategic basketball intellectual iq..or will he trust arenas and eventually turn into another gifted scorer leading the league in scoring but not spending hours a day diagnosing and game planning against the top ranked defenses and their mid game adjustments.
So no I have no worry about gil character...gil is a shooting guard mentally...but won't admit that he is only an averaged iq for a point guard..and that he doesn't spend hours studying game film...he spends hours..shooting threes..which is why he is one of the corers shooting guards in the league.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:25 pm
by JWizmentality
closg00 wrote:Sad, we can't even say that Wall will be in good hands once he gets here. Afterall, Ed Tapscott is still in-charge of Player Development :( :evil:


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*CK!!!!!!!!




well, at the very least it's good to hear from our lockeroom cancer, uncoachable, chucking, rookie career killing, ego-driven, ball hogging, unadaptable, thug allstar.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:42 pm
by verbal8
closg00 wrote:Sad, we can't even say that Wall will be in good hands once he gets here. Afterall, Ed Tapscott is still in-charge of Player Development :( :evil:

Speaking of fresh starts I am not sure how he and Biche are still employed by the organization. Although that could change when Leonsis takes over officially.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:24 pm
by closg00
verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Sad, we can't even say that Wall will be in good hands once he gets here. Afterall, Ed Tapscott is still in-charge of Player Development :( :evil:

Speaking of fresh starts I am not sure how he and Biche are still employed by the organization. Although that could change when Leonsis takes over officially.


Seriously, I am holding-out hope that Ed Tapscott will be fired; but it appears as-though Ted is not the firing kind of guy. Ted could get the word to certain people that they will not be kept-on, but none of that appears to have happened yet and there hasn't been any good reporting on who stays or go's.

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:12 pm
by DaRealHibachi
WizarDynasty wrote:A buncha stuff...


Like was said before... Wall is a grown ass man and he's old enough to distinguish right from wrong... You're acting like he's some kinda newborn kid or something...

Re: Arenas Looking Foward To Fresh Start With Wall

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:46 pm
by LascelleL
No! Send him to Toronto PLEASE! We need someone of his caliber