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Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Tue Aug 6, 2019 2:43 pm
by doclinkin
psimanic1 wrote:Let's say Murray and Jokic are off the table, what would you guys ask from Denver for Beal?


I'd say a year or so of revenue from all sales of Colorado's legal weed. What's that, like $2 billion a year?

And how much of that were you personally smoking when you typed this? Or is it cumulative damage from a lifetime's heavy input.

1st: No
2nd: No, nope
3rd: yougottabekiddingme
4th: Picks --worthless with Jokic Murray and Beal

So, no. I'm sticking with The Weed money, plus a time machine to jump back and force your GM to reconsider his rejection of our front office job. Though GM Tommy has been alright so far.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 2:46 pm
by Jamaaliver
NBA Trades to Further Shake Up East, West Power Balances


Bradley Beal and Ish Smith for Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown and Picks

Bradley Beal is the player who can do the most to shift the power balance in the NBA.

"League sources say that Beal isn't currently available, though that could change by the deadline," The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor wrote.

And if that does change, several teams, including the Boston Celtics, should dive headfirst into the mix.

"Few teams can match the type of package Boston could put together," The Athletic's Jordan Brenner wrote in June. "One league source suggested that Washington would need to strongly consider an offer of Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart and a protected pick for Beal or that Boston could offer Smart, Jaylen Brown and two future first-rounders as an alternative trade."

At the time, those possibilities were contemplated with the understanding that Boston may have a little cap space to work with in the event Kyrie Irving left. He did leave, but that space was instead spent on Kemba Walker.

Now, the Celtics may have to throw a bigger deal into the mix to make salaries match. The same general framework of the deal built around Smart and Brown would work if No. 14 pick Romeo Langford were included. But Gordon Hayward's $32.7 million salary could make things easier.

If Hayward were to pick up his player option for the 2020-21 season, this deal wouldn't save Washington any money, but the Wizards would at least come out of it with a promising young player and multiple picks. That should be preferable to losing Beal for nothing.

Again, Washington has some time before it should feel any such pressure, but Boston is in position to pounce if that changes.

And if the Celtics could hang onto Tatum and Smart, they'd have some intriguing small-ball lineups at their disposal. Walker, Beal, Smart and Tatum lining up 1 through 4 would give the team loads of switchability, shooting and playmaking.
Bleacher Report

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 3:34 pm
by Ruzious
That first trade is an awful awful awful trade. First, I can't imagine picking up a high-risk contract like Hayward's when we already have the highest risk contract in the NBA. Second, Brown's going to be a free agent, and he's coming off a very meh season. He has next to no trade value.

And the second trade doesn't make sense for either team. Boston has basically nothing at forward other than Tatum, and they seem to think he's going to be a star. How will they compete with no frontcourt? I don't think he'll be a star, because he showed no improvement last season. Smart's a very bad contract and his shot makes him a an overall liability, imo. A protected pick... seriously?

Boston is no longer a good trade partner.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 3:45 pm
by nate33
Ruzious wrote:That first trade is an awful awful awful trade. First, I can't imagine picking up a high-risk contract like Hayward's when we already have the highest risk contract in the NBA. Second, Brown's going to be a free agent, and he's coming off a very meh season. He has next to no trade value.

And the second trade doesn't make sense for either team. Boston has basically nothing at forward other than Tatum, and they seem to think he's going to be a star. How will they compete with no frontcourt? I don't think he'll be a star, because he showed no improvement last season. Smart's a very bad contract and his shot makes him a an overall liability, imo. A protected pick... seriously?

Boston is no longer a good trade partner.

Yup. A Boston deal would have to start with Tatum plus the Memphis pick. Anything else is a non-starter.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:53 pm
by trast66
I don’t see any team except Pelicans who would trade with directly. NAW, 4 first rounders and a 2nd in 2021. We would have to take on Moore and Favors for rest of season. Other than that would need to look at bringing in a third team. We missed the hot market and have to hope for a desperate team to emerge during season, which should happen.

If nothing materializes this season then Ben Simmons, who I personally don’t want, comes into play.

It’s hard for me to believe Brad has not expressed, quietly, his preference is to be traded. And waiting until next season does not seem to be in best interest of all involved.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so you can see if it flies....

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 7:27 pm
by nate33
trast66 wrote:I don’t see any team except Pelicans who would trade with directly. NAW, 4 first rounders and a 2nd in 2021. We would have to take on Moore and Favors for rest of season. Other than that would need to look at bringing in a third team. We missed the hot market and have to hope for a desperate team to emerge during season, which should happen.

If nothing materializes this season then Ben Simmons, who I personally don’t want, comes into play.

I think Denver could put together a pretty competitive package as well, particularly if Michael Porter Jr. is as promising as all they hype suggests.


trast66 wrote:It’s hard for me to believe Brad has not expressed, quietly, his preference is to be traded. And waiting until next season does not seem to be in best interest of all involved.

If Brad has indeed expressed quiet interest in being traded, it's hard for me to believe that the team isn't shopping him for the best available offer. The fact that they are immediately shutting down any trade talk suggests to me that Beal absolutely has NOT requested a trade.

Maybe that will change going forward, but for now, I think it's very likely that Beal has honest interest in staying.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so we can sneer and lob derision at y

Posted: Fri Aug 9, 2019 7:47 pm
by doclinkin
far too few insults in these recent responses. I'm tempted to flag them as off topic....

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so we can sneer and lob derision at y

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:28 pm
by skywalker33
So why hasn't Beal signed his extension yet ??? Apprehension about the future ??

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so we can sneer and lob derision at y

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:52 pm
by nate33
skywalker33 wrote:So why hasn't Beal signed his extension yet ??? Apprehension about the future ??

Because if he makes All-NBA this year, he can sign a supermax extension for 35% of the cap, rather than a mere 30% extension.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so we can sneer and lob derision at y

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:33 pm
by skywalker33
nate33 wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:So why hasn't Beal signed his extension yet ??? Apprehension about the future ??

Because if he makes All-NBA this year, he can sign a supermax extension for 35% of the cap, rather than a mere 30% extension.


I was wondering, but that makes perfect sense. May be hard to make 1st team All-NBA but not impossible, he has the talent. Know it would be hard to turn down $37MM a year if it was put in my face but I get it now.

Re: TROLL HERE! (Insults, trolls welcome) GOT A BEAL TRADE PROPOSAL? Post it here so we can sneer and lob derision at y

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:02 pm
by doclinkin
skywalker33 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:So why hasn't Beal signed his extension yet ??? Apprehension about the future ??

Because if he makes All-NBA this year, he can sign a supermax extension for 35% of the cap, rather than a mere 30% extension.


I was wondering, but that makes perfect sense. May be hard to make 1st team All-NBA but not impossible, he has the talent. Know it would be hard to turn down $37MM a year if it was put in my face but I get it now.


He only has to make any of the All-NBA teams, not even 1st team. If you're Beal and you have gotten all this press and profile bump from trade interest etc, you have to like your chances of being voted one of the top 6 guards in the league.