Leonsis Rescue?FluidShotFake/CompactPostFootwork BigmanCoach

[WizarDynasty]

We need an elite post footwork Bigman Coach that can also teach our young bigs how to install fluid shot fakes along with highly coordinated compact explosive change of direction footwork in the post.

mcgee should have had a field day going against the undersized N.Y. knicks loss if this team actually cared about developing their young big talent correctly.

its all about being half a step in front of your post defender so that he is always in recovery mode but it all starts with the first initial fake. That initial fake gives you a 10 microsecond advantage where the defender is playing catchup and if you had a good bigman coach, you would already be able to predict what his defensive body mechanics are playing catch-up due to him biting on your pre-planned fake.

the problem with our bigs is they have inferior bigman coaching and they can't slow the game down and read what the defenders reaction is to their intial fake. it robs the fans and the wizards as a team of one our greatest advantages of athleticism at the 4 and 5 spots.

Blatche can't get off the ground and McGee is afraid play of contact but that pretty much due to not having a 7 foot bigman coach to help our young bigs improve their shot angle coordination and proper leverage. Since they are battling against 6-7 215 lb bigman coach, their bodies are trained to improper leverage angles that are ineffective against 7-0 270 lb frames.

A renown bigman coach, if only rented for 30 days would do wonders for our experience as wizards fans as well as court performance and confidence.

Biggest problem facing this orgainzation is our starting center's inability to draw fouls in the post because he isn't forced to improve his foot coordination and shot angles and fakes to intentionally draw fouls in post....

We are getting blown out in games because our starting center's don't know how to draw fouls in the post. Our center almost never gets to line based on executing solid post moves and this is really really hurting the team.

When will Leonsis wake up and realize that we are losing games because we don't have an offensive post moves expert on the coaching staff. Flip has never built a winner and the only reason we have seen improvement in our player is because he someone lucked up and got cassell as an assistant to improve our guard play. Saunder's wont be here long but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be developing our starting center's post skills so that when we do get the right coach, our starting center already has spent the time developing advanced post moves. It take alot longer than one summer to develop advanced post moves, the compact and highly coordinated footwork in combination with shot angles should be worked on for hours after every practice and our starting center should be fined if he doesn't show improvement each week.

This is what a professional expert bigman coach would expect of the our starting center.

[dlts20]

one day a month wont do anything if you ask me and I dont think McHale is going to work for Flip after Flip was just working for him

[pancakes3]

mods, lock or rename, please.

[WizarDynasty]

The whole point of the a consultant is that they are brought in only temporarily so in effect he is not actually working for FLIP. He would be working as a consultant for the team just as the laker brought in Abdul Jabar for Andrew Bynum, the magic brought in Hakeem to work with D.Howard. McHale is credited with providing K.G.'s foundation and McHale is one the greatest offensive post men in nba history.

The amount that Leonsis would pay for his consultation would pay for it self in less than a season. We don't have any great established Big Man coaches and for McHale to come in and provide consultation for our organization temporarily in that role would greatly accelerate Ted Leonsis youth plan and young draft picks. McHale wisdom passed is worth more than what we pay him for the few days he is here each month.

i think it would be a great move by Leonsis.

[Nivek]

I was thinking the same thing back when McHale was still GM in Minnesota. He and Flip were friends at one point, but I don't know the status of their relationship now. McHale did fire Saunders, but I don't know whether that was rancorous or whether it was a mutual decision.

McHale had a GREAT post game and it would be good to get that knowledge to the Wiz bigs. What I don't know is how good a teacher McHale is. The ability to do something well doesn't always translate into the ability to teach others how to do it.

Plus, to be honest, there's nothing mystical or mysterious about what McHale did. I'm sure McHale had good coaches, but the reason he had possibly the best post-up repertoire in league history was that he spent hours in the gym working on it. He could be the best teacher who ever lived, and if his pupils don't put in the work, they still won't get better,.

[Black Eyed Sooz]

McHale actually interviewed JaVale about the dunk contest for NBA tv, asking him about this dunk where he stuck some paper in the twine up near the rim, then grabbed it with his mouth while slamming.

My thought was, if he actually was coaching McGee, rule number one would be- no more of this dunk contest bullcrap.

In terms of post moves, you would think McHale would be perfect for JaVale, the way he used length and angles to get off shots over, under, and around defenders- and you can see JaVale has a natural tendency to try those kind of moves, although not real effectively right now. But the fact that Flip has so many people on his staff that were with him in Minnesota makes McHale's absence even more glaring- there had to have been some sort of falling out.

[WizarDynasty]

Just imagine Javale with just 25% of McHale's footwork. Oh man... it would be so beautiful watching each game even on losses.

McHale's footwork was a thing of beauty man.

I used to love playing with back in the day on the old nba live back on the genesis days. Celtics vs Laker when each player had a signature cheap move in the game. McHale was always a ringer.

[WG5516]

I'm confused, is this happening or is this a fans pipe dream?

[daSwami]

I'm confused, is this happening or is this a fans pipe dream?

It's a confused fan's pipe dream.

[JWizmentality]

WTF? This aint happening? Whose idea of a joke was this?!?

[rockymac52]

Stein: Everyone talks about all the work you did on your post moves with Hakeem Olajuwon, but can you clear up how much credit we should really be giving him for your [offensive] improvement?

Howard: I worked with Hakeem for three days. But I could go work with Michael Jordan and I'm not going to be Michael Jordan, so it didn't really matter who and how long I worked with somebody. The other things ... spending extra time in the gym, going to the gym every night and making a thousand shots before I leave, every time I went overseas [to China, India and Africa] -- whatever I did -- I finished [the day] with working out in the gym and working on everything. And then just having the confidence to do it in a game. I will give Hakeem and [Magic assistant] Patrick [Ewing] credit for helping me get to where I'm at, but it's hard work. I put in a lot of work to get to where I'm at.


Proof of what I've always said about big men coaches, especially the "celebrity" or "former allstar" ones. OVERRATED.

[WizarDynasty]

Had Java worked with McHale and practice adding intentional jerks and hesitations into his post moves, we would easily have won the game Wednesday night against the Bucks.

[closg00]

Wiz, many are on-board for a a legit Big-Man coach, compare this:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizard ... .html#more

VS this, (scroll ahead a minute or so for the action)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArHU1ew ... r_embedded

[WizarDynasty]

they have 6-7 gene banks as the bigman coach who wasn't even a dominant post player during his time in the nba.
he obviously knows nothing about great post footwork...Java hasn't improved his footwork, fakes, hesitations, and ability to get a defender in the air in 3 years.

How many times have we see Java hit some with a fake inside in the post. that sad that a realgm poster has to point out the obvious with our most athletic bigman.

Java is almost identical physically to kevin mchale. Same body type, same coordination and quickness. McHale is the clear answer to boosting McGee into a coordinated "beast" in the post.

The article that you quoted doesn't even acknowledge that Blatche's game starts with his jumper and that he doesn't have the raw physical attributes to dominate in the post like McGee.

Blatche dominates because when his jumper is falling, he can attack the post and the average p/f can't stop blatche wants he has an advantage driving to the post.

McGee actually has a tremendous extension advantage that Blatche will never have once mcgee catches teh ball in the post. The only reason defenses can stop mcgee is because he doesn't have any fakes and hesitation in his post footwork moves.

All of this is the fault of management not upgrading from Gene Banks--a old nba player with zero accomplishments as a post player. McHale is teh answer. He is worth the premium price demanded as a temporary consultant.

So again, McGee is actually the true post player we should be going to n the block every play in clutch. He should be practicing fakes on every single one of his post moves because the only reason he gets stopped is because he telegraphs what he is about to it. If throws is planned head fake, fake step, anything, he should be able to draw at least 3-4 fouls on the opponents bigman each game which would dramatically change 4th quarter strategy in away games.

Maybe McGee needs to take his own personal money and meet up with McHale for one hour sessions in each month. Obviously that would take serious ambition on Java's part.

All i am saying is this, McGee catches the ball on the block. In three years, how many times have we seen Java leans back on the defender, how many times have we seen Java do a fake shouder thrust and actually pay attention to what his defender does. How many times have we seen Java drive in teh lane, hit a pump fake and actually watch what his defender does based on his pump fake. Each time Java is in the lane he has an advantage because when he is fully extended no noe can block the ball unless they can predict what he is about to do. The moment Java establishes a reputation for getting defenders in the air because of quick fake--he will become a dominant low post player. As of now he goes straight to his move with no pre-established fakes at the end of his moves designed to get a defender in the air.


This is largely his fault and the coaches. I think it should be the goal of coaches for McGee to draw at least five fouls each game against the opposing bigman especially on the road. Java should be known for getting his defenders to jump in the air before he does because if they jump in the air before he does, they have no chance of stopping him in teh post unless they foul. Coaches have to teach Java to use hesitation post moves meaning he should always do a slight fake just before he releases the ball on every post move he does with teh intention of drawing fouls more importantly than scoring.
Honestly java finally has a strong work out partner in Seraphin. he should practicing on Seraphin every day to figure which shoulder fakes work, which foot thrust work, and what he needs to do on each post move in order to get seraphin to jump in air before he leaves his feet to draw a foul.

Every game Java's main goal should be that a defender never leaves his feet on Java's post moves because he is scared of getting another foul because of Java's fakes. Coaching has not accomplished this mentality for Java at all. Our win loss record would have definitely been in the positive if management had the right post mentality for Java. Java has a length advantage every time in the post and his main goal every time in the post should be to draw fouls that are so blatant that refs have to call it. Fouls on a starting bigman are far more important that the points scored should have been the mentality taught to java.

this in term would have greatly accelerated java's post designed to get the opposing bigman in the air on fakes and draw fouls. java needs to draw at elast 3 fouls on the starting bigman in the first 2 quarters should be what leonsis instructs Flip.

[WizarDynasty]

this is what Houston Rockets fans said of Hakeem as a post playing coach for YAO MING.
This is what a quality organization does for its bigs leonsis.
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=116289

Intriguing comments on Yao

"Yao Ming, of course," he said. "He is mobile enough to be a force. He runs the floor very well. He has a soft jump shot, good skills. For him, it is just the concept, the job description, that he must learn. That lane, it belongs to him. Everybody has to go through you. You reject everything that comes in there. It is your house.

"It is more of a mental picture for him to get in his mind and then extend out to other teams. 'Oh no, we have to face the Rockets and Yao Ming! We have so much to worry about!' He needs that mentality. Everybody talks about his skills. But he is a gentleman on the court. No. It is not a place for gentlemen. Not in the lane. He must be a force.

"It is about so much more than stats. It is that toughness, that image, that force that all big men must project. Tracy McGrady is a great player. But this is Yao Ming's team. It should be. He has so much more to offer. It is not out of reach. I am a realistic person. He has what it takes. But he is trying to fit in when he should be making everyone fit in around him.

"Maybe you say it is cultural. I don't know. But he can change. He can be taught. Let him see how it's done. I know he has obligations this year (in China) with the world tournament. But next year, maybe he is free. I plan to be here. Hopefully, with a bigger camp. I would like to work with him."

Yao and Hakeem. Some teacher. Some dream.



We have outstanding young bigs bursting with offensive potential. Ewing would turn these kids into allstars.

Kwame, Haywood, and Etan had close to zero upside offensively due to poor coordination. Our young bigs have elite raw coordination that just needs to be honed by an experienced 7 footer with proven allstar post mechanics that they can see day to day with their own eyes.

We need a coach that can teach by example the proper angles on shots from the post that our players need in order to succeed against a 7 footer in real game time.

Post footwork is something that you imitate, you don't explain post footwork, and the angles successful against a 6-7 standing reach and force used against 215lb frame won't work for the angles against a 7-0 standing reach and 270lb frame which is what the players see in real games.

AGain some of you keep bringing up coaches that were great but couldn't demonstrate what they taught.
Our players have specialized area of basketball they need coaching in. Flip is not an expert at post footwork. Flip might be an overall good coach but he doesn't specialize in post footwork against 7 footers with 270lb frame.

We have a special area that we need a qualified expert to quickly accelerate our young bigs growth. Flip is general practictioner Doctor--he knows a little bit about everything but he surely wasn't well known for his ability to greatly improve his young bigs post foot work. We need a proven expert that has successfully improved young big nba players post footwork and shot angles in the post. it's a specialized coaching area and there aren't many coaches that have a strong resume in this particular area. Our team has to pay a premium since there aren't many coaches around that have a strong resume in the particular need that we have. in the longterm, paying that premium will pay for it since in longterm success playoff revenue, and increased fan base across the nation because of the continued success.

Gene does not have a strong resume of successfully working with young nba bigs and transforming their footwork from mediocre to elite. He doesn't have a strong resume of improving a young nba bigman ability to draw fouls in the post.

We have special requirement that we need our bigman coach to fulfill and there are only a handful of qualified player coaches that have resumes that showed that either they have experience improving young nba bigman post footwork to elite...or they themselves have demonstrated elite nba post footwork against 7 footers with a 270lb frame.

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PLEASE GOD IF YOU CARE ABOUT US ROCKETS FANS, LET HAKEEM TUTOR YAO AND THEN HAVE YAO LEAD US TO ANOTHER CHAMPIONSHIP.

.. WITH HAKEEM AS THE BIG MAN COACH.

PLEASE GOD!

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[closg00]

Send Ted an email Wiz, a brief one

[Ruzious]

Send Ted an email Wiz, a brief one

Why do you hate Ted?

[dobrojim]

Send Ted an email Wiz, a brief one

Why do you hate Ted?

I think he really hates Wiznasty. How is he possibly going
to be able to do this? Brief? I think his head will explode 1st.

[WizarDynasty]

the phoenix game was horrible for our post play. when will leonsis finally take control of our post footwork big man development.
EG and Saunders aren't getting the job done with accelerating McGee's post moves with Gene Banks taking the lead.

[pancakes3]

the phoenix game was horrible for our post play. when will leonsis finally take control of our post footwork big man development.
EG and Saunders aren't getting the job done with accelerating McGee's post moves with Gene Banks taking the lead.

probably right after he takes care of the strong-side-forward-board-support skill issue. i say this, of course, heavily laden with sarcasm since the thought of our multibillionaire owner micromanaging to the point of handpicking personnel coaches for journeyman centers is ridiculous.

also, don't think your recent efforts to paragraphize your writings has gone unnoticed. it probably has a direct correlation to the spike in responses to your posts. i still think you're dead wrong if you think gene banks is the reason why Javale McGee has no reliable post moves, or why he can't seem to stay in the game for more than 5 minutes on end.