Jan 31-Wizards at Dallas

Jay81 · Post #1 » by **Jay81** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:12 am

I'm breaking this absurd losing streak. Also I can't believe you all let some miami douche ban my original user name and get away with it. I feel like Heath Shuler when he was abused by the Cowboys while his teammates stood around

Anyway...young goes for 26 and wiz beat Dallas 100-98

closg00 · Post #2 » by **closg00** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:04 pm

"We're soft, man," Thornton said after the Wizards also lost their sixth straight game in Memphis since opening the building with a win in 2004. "Soft, that pretty much describes the way we played. Pretty soft. Soft as hell."

JWizmentality · Post #3 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:24 pm

Nooooooooooooo, soft..........for realz???

DaRealHibachi · Post #4 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:46 pm

closg00 wrote:
"We're soft, man," Thornton said after the Wizards also lost their sixth straight game in Memphis since opening the building with a win in 2004. "Soft, that pretty much describes the way we played. Pretty soft. Soft as hell."

Atleast AT keeps it real, he's probably the only one who consistently plays hard, finishes hard and takes it to the hoop...

We need to keep him as a backup SF for a year, maybe 2...

closg00 · Post #5 » by **closg00** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:51 pm

DaRealHibachi wrote:
closg00 wrote:
"We're soft, man," Thornton said after the Wizards also lost their sixth straight game in Memphis since opening the building with a win in 2004. "Soft, that pretty much describes the way we played. Pretty soft. Soft as hell."

Atleast AT keeps it real, he's probably the only one who consistently plays hard, finishes hard and takes it to the hoop...

We need to keep him as a backup SF for a year, maybe 2...

Not a fan of his game because he's a slashing SF, but at-least he's a pro who plays hard and plays D. Worth considering for a cheapie contract after the Howard debacle is over.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #6 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:58 pm

Talking about soft, is there a softer player in the history of the league than Yi?

Can't finish to save his life around the rim, can't do **** to defend around the rim despite being 7'.

20MexicanosIn1Van · Post #7 » by **20MexicanosIn1Van** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:41 pm

closg00 wrote:
DaRealHibachi wrote:
Atleast AT keeps it real, he's probably the only one who consistently plays hard, finishes hard and takes it to the hoop...

We need to keep him as a backup SF for a year, maybe 2...

Not a fan of his game because he's a slashing SF, but at-least he's a pro who plays hard and plays D. Worth considering for a cheapie contract after the Howard debacle is over.

You say slashing SF like it's a bad thing. Yea, a 3 and D SF would be ideal for our starting SF of the future but as a back up Thorton is a pretty solid player.

Post #8 » by **nate33** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:58 pm

DaRealHibachi wrote:
closg00 wrote:
"We're soft, man," Thornton said after the Wizards also lost their sixth straight game in Memphis since opening the building with a win in 2004. "Soft, that pretty much describes the way we played. Pretty soft. Soft as hell."

Atleast AT keeps it real, he's probably the only one who consistently plays hard, finishes hard and takes it to the hoop...

That's true. You gotta love his attitude and demeanor. He's a tough, physical player.

I wouldn't mind having him on the roster next year, but I absolutely would not give him a long term contract. He's a role player, and Dat2U's Rule states specifically that you don't overpay for role players unless they're the "final piece" to a championship puzzle.

hands11 · Post #9 » by **hands11** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:33 pm

DaRealHibachi wrote:
closg00 wrote:
"We're soft, man," Thornton said after the Wizards also lost their sixth straight game in Memphis since opening the building with a win in 2004. "Soft, that pretty much describes the way we played. Pretty soft. Soft as hell."

At least AT keeps it real, he's probably the only one who consistently plays hard, finishes hard and takes it to the hoop...

We need to keep him as a backup SF for a year, maybe 2...

There are soft players on this team for sure but they have none soft players also. Problem is they haven't been the one playing or they have been injured. They key is to have enough none softies on the floor at the same time so you can teach the ones who are capable of improving ( the one who at least have the health and bodies to do it). If you get enough tough players out there, they can turn a semi soft into a more aggressive players because they will be surrounded by tougher players.

This is where I think the focus should be at least for a short while until they get that improved by getting improvement a player or two at a time. That's how you get a young talent to a viable NBA player. The tougher player need to call out the soft no-effort players/plays kind of like KG got in Big Babies face. I would do this short a while even if it meant not starting some players that most think should be starting. This is the development they need right now. I think they are trying to do to much all at the same time so they are not getting the progress they could be by building a piece or two at a time.

Kirk, Martin, Howard, Lewis, Booker, Seraphin are not soft, and Mustafa seem on the tougher side if he is around. Problem is Booker and Seraphin are rookies and Martin and Mustafa are DL call ups who may not be around, and Howard has been injured. And wen they lose Kirk, they have no D at PG which stresses the whole system since they don't have a monster D center. AT shows some power when he drives but he is just inconsistent in how he plays and he doesn't have good 3 range for a SF. He is a SF in a small PFish body. He has been bringing it lately but he needs to bring it even more and more consistently with D and rebounds. That game he locked down on Melo was magical. And they have other vet options at SF once Howard and Lewis are both healthy. And Booker is the young future Melo/LaDouche stopper. PF/SF vs SF/PF with a shot.

They need to line them up to teach toughness vs just letting players get time on the court to work on other parts of their game. i.e. Wall and McGee. Both need another summer to work on their bodies so I see no problem playing them off the bench while they work on other players who are NBA body ready to show improvement. Let Wall and McGee focus on what they can actually do now successfully which is run and freelance and scrap.

ErikChowbay023 · Post #10 » by **ErikChowbay023** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:24 pm

Great post,..Simply said, we miss Singleton..

Post #11 » by **nate33** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:25 pm

ErikChowbay023 wrote:Great post,..Simply said, we miss Singleton..

To me, the only logical reason for EG not to resign Singleton last summer was that he believed Booker would become the same kind of player. It's looking like he'll be proven right.

Post #12 » by **LyricalRico** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:31 pm

nate33 wrote:It's looking like he'll be proven right.

Once again.

closg00 · Post #13 » by **closg00** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:28 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
nate33 wrote:It's looking like he'll be proven right.

Once again.

Darrell Arthur had a career high last night and Randolph had 20 rebounds 24 points on Bookers watch. Celebrating early perhaps?

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #14 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:29 am

Memphis is great at scoring points in the paint. Flip trusts Armstrong--a hack master who fouls like Oberto and also doesn't score. He trusts Yi, who makes leads Yi-vaporate. He is Charmin soft. For every nice play Yi makes he gives up more on the other end. Yi and Armstrong are BAD players. Blatche with his finesse moves is soft. Wall is soft. Real soft.

On the bench is Seraphin. He is a big, strong, physical player. Flip does not regularly play him or Booker. Cartier Martin, like Booker and Seraphin, rarely plays. When he does he plays hard and usually plays well. Flip won't use him.

Lewis has played well some games and soft others.

This team is a mess.

KillbertArenas · Post #15 » by **KillbertArenas** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:37 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Memphis is great at scoring points in the paint. Flip trusts Armstrong--a hack master who fouls like Oberto and also doesn't score. He trusts Yi, who makes leads Yi-vaporate. He is Charmin soft. For every nice play Yi makes he gives up more on the other end. Yi and Armstrong are BAD players. Blatche with his finesse moves is soft. Wall is soft. Real soft.

On the bench is Seraphin. He is a big, strong, physical player. Flip does not regularly play him or Booker. Cartier Martin, like Booker and Thornton, rarely plays. When he does he plays hard and usually plays well. Flip won't use him.

Lewis has played well some games and soft others.

This team is a mess.

Really? Didnt you suggest the Wizards trade Wall?

In December you were saying that Wall plays too "hard" and would get injured..

You were right about getting injured, and now your wrong about him being "soft"

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #16 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:42 am

Soft on defense, reckless on offense--he does play hard and 100mph on offense. I stand corrected.

I don't recall saying I would trade him--ever, Killbert Arenas. Just because you're upset with me don't make stuff up.

I asked about Steph Curry and a lottery pick for Wall. Didn't say I would do it. What I probably would do is Cousins and an unprotected pick for Wall. Prior to the draft I wanted Cousins and a pick for Wall, and I'm still open to the idea.

KillbertArenas · Post #17 » by **KillbertArenas** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:56 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Soft on defense, reckless on offense--he does play hard and 100mph on offense. I stand corrected.

I don't recall saying I would trade him--ever.

I asked about Steph Curry and a lottery pick for Wall. Didn't say I would do it. What I probably would do is Cousins and an unprotected pick for Wall.

I agree with your updated Wall assesment. Alot of people have grown fustrated with Wall but he is a rookie that will within the top 5 players during his third season. Him getting injured is a "blessing in disguise" because it has forced him to slow down his play and focus on setting his team up..Since the injury his turnovers are down and so is scoring but his assists are up.

Wall is not a player you trade at all..He will be dominant. Only player I would trade him for is Durant.

EG dropped the ball on Curry he couldve had hhim last year with the 5th pick. Theres no since in him making another mistake and giving away our #1 pick for him. EG should package Young/Blatche/Hinrich somehow for for Curry

KillbertArenas · Post #18 » by **KillbertArenas** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:04 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Soft on defense, reckless on offense--he does play hard and 100mph on offense. I stand corrected.

I don't recall saying I would trade him--ever, Killbert Arenas. Just because you're upset with me don't make stuff up.

I asked about Steph Curry and a lottery pick for Wall. Didn't say I would do it. What I probably would do is Cousins and an unprotected pick for Wall. Prior to the draft I wanted Cousins and a pick for Wall, and I'm still open to the idea.

You did say that the Wizards should trade him?

Why would I lie?

I called you out on it back then.

Currently im on my iphone but once I get to a computer I will surely find that post you me made and quote it

B-easy · Post #19 » by **B-easy** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:11 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I asked about Steph Curry and a lottery pick for Wall. Didn't say I would do it. What I probably would do is Cousins and an unprotected pick for Wall. Prior to the draft I wanted Cousins and a pick for Wall, and I'm still open to the idea.

Wall is better than cousins and will be better in the future. When wall is 100% healthy again he will play like he did in the first few games of the season.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #20 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:15 am

Find it and I'll own that, too, KA. I don't think I said it, unless you mean trading the draft rights to Wall. I definitely did not want to draft Wall. I traded him dozens of ways prior to the draft--and a lot involving Evan Turner.

I think you are probably right about Wall turning out just fine. I wouldn't mind them sitting the kid down. If he's hurting it is downright dumb to have him playing.

Wall is a kid who will get tougher and physically stronger over time. He will slow down. His jumper will improve. I don't know about his defense.