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The Tank Watch has expired. Time to cheer to win again!
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:46 pm
by Jay81
1. Washington 2-14(somehow flip and Ernie are still here)
2. Charlotte 3-13(big Shock..MJ is in charge)
3. New Orleans 3-13(We need Eric Gordon to come back fast--we want to a sign a guy who is always hurt?)
4. Toronto 4-13(I am really worried about them--they suck and have less talent than wizards---we even blew them out

5. Detriot(4-13)..I am really worried about them too. Joe Dumars most overrated GM of all time?
6. New Jersey(5-12)...i was the most worried about them when season started but they get Lopez back soon and Marshon Brooks was a great pick. They should be safe.
7. Goldent State(5-10)--when they get Curry back..i wont be too worried. Mark Jackson still wants to make the playoffs
8. Sacramento 6-10--was worried about them too but coaching change helped as Cousins has picked it up but they could still go an epic losing streak.
I am mostly worried about Charlotte,Toronto and Detroit. the game with Charlotte Wed is EPIC
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:59 pm
by montestewart
Jay81 wrote:the game with Charlotte Wed is EPIC
hottest ticket in town
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:00 pm
by 7-Day Dray
I wouldn't worry about the Raptors too much. Once Bargnani comes back, they'll be back to mediocre instead of suckish.

Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:01 pm
by 7-Day Dray
And Charlotte has 3 wins, not 2.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:21 pm
by closg00
NOH is better than their record, they have lost a bunch of close games. NOH at-least has a decent front-lin and Jarret Jack has been playing well.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:29 pm
by sfam
If we don't watch it, we could easily end up third worst. Charlotte and Toronto look like they suck worse than we do. Worse, we look to be improving.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:35 pm
by Nivek
Washington now has just the 3rd worst scoring margin, and the 3rd worst SRS (basically scoring margin combined with a strength of schedule adjustment). They've played the league's 7th toughest schedule thus far.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:40 pm
by nate33
sfam wrote:If we don't watch it, we could easily end up third worst. Charlotte and Toronto look like they suck worse than we do. Worse, we look to be improving.
Yup. Ever since the debacle at Philly, we've been in every game. In our last 5 games:
Lost vs. PHI by 13
Lost vs. HOU by 8
Won vs. OKC by 3
Lost vs. DEN by 4
Lost vs. BOS by 6
Now granted, all were home games, but the competition was pretty good except for Boston. There is reason to believe that this team is making the turn from historically bad, to merely run-of-the-mill bad. I think Charlotte is going to end up with a worse record.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:45 pm
by fishercob
Nivek wrote:Washington now has just the 3rd worst scoring margin, and the 3rd worst SRS (basically scoring margin combined with a strength of schedule adjustment). They've played the league's 7th toughest schedule thus far.
Sixth pick here we come!
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:32 pm
by sfam
fishercob wrote:Nivek wrote:Washington now has just the 3rd worst scoring margin, and the 3rd worst SRS (basically scoring margin combined with a strength of schedule adjustment). They've played the league's 7th toughest schedule thus far.
Sixth pick here we come!
Luckily, this year, the sixth pick might be just as good as the second or third pick. Really, there's Davis and then there's everyone else.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:36 pm
by The Consiglieri
sfam wrote:fishercob wrote:Nivek wrote:Washington now has just the 3rd worst scoring margin, and the 3rd worst SRS (basically scoring margin combined with a strength of schedule adjustment). They've played the league's 7th toughest schedule thus far.
Sixth pick here we come!
Luckily, this year, the sixth pick might be just as good as the second or third pick. Really, there's Davis and then there's everyone else.
I don't know, I don't want to be at 6 and looking at a board featuring Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Robinson, Sully and Drummond off the board. I want top 4 to lock in Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist or Robinson (with Sully as a fall back), if we slide to 6, we could be looking at the type of guys that would give us nightmares guys like Drummond or Perry Jones III, or Barnes, guys with low ceilings and/or high bust potential. Yikes. Would much rather have hard working, highly motivated smart guys like Kidd-Gilchrist and Robinson and in a worst case scenario Sully, or a best case scenario of Davis.
The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:37 pm
by Induveca
Charlotte will improve as well. Walker and Biyombo are going to be very solid....and Henderson is showing some signs.
If those three continue to improve, along with Silas I could see them going on a small run. They played the Bulls pretty close last week.....Biyombo/Walker were very good picks.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:57 pm
by sfam
The Consiglieri wrote:I don't know, I don't want to be at 6 and looking at a board featuring Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Robinson, Sully and Drummond off the board. I want top 4 to lock in Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist or Robinson (with Sully as a fall back), if we slide to 6, we could be looking at the type of guys that would give us nightmares guys like Drummond or Perry Jones III, or Barnes, guys with low ceilings and/or high bust potential. Yikes. Would much rather have hard working, highly motivated smart guys like Kidd-Gilchrist and Robinson and in a worst case scenario Sully, or a best case scenario of Davis.
If we don't get a great PF, which might be the case at #6, we'll still be looking at a serious upgrade at the SG position with someone like Lamb, for instance. While I certainly agree we want the #1, 2, 3 or 4 instead of the 6, we're still better off this year than most.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:58 pm
by 7-Day Dray
The good thing is that Flip is being a good tank commander. Some of the games we've lost were very winnable, but Flip does very dumb thinks down the stretch i.e. giving Blatche big minutes in the 4th.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:21 pm
by Illuminaire
If anyone is still asking why Blatche is getting big minutes... this is it. It's the only way Flip can keep us losing games.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:39 pm
by LyricalRico
Induveca wrote:Charlotte will improve as well. Walker and Biyombo are going to be very solid....and Henderson is showing some signs.
If those three continue to improve, along with Silas I could see them going on a small run. They played the Bulls pretty close last week.....Biyombo/Walker were very good picks.
True, and I was also thinking "why should they tank since they owe their pick to the Bulls"?
But the pick that they owe to CHI is heavily protected until 2016. So they can still reap the benefits of tanking. And for this draft specifically, they could use any of the PF/SFs that are at the top. MJ also hasn't been shy about making deadline deals and that could also impact their record down the stretch. Definitely don't count them out IMO.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:00 pm
by The Consiglieri
sfam wrote:The Consiglieri wrote:I don't know, I don't want to be at 6 and looking at a board featuring Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Robinson, Sully and Drummond off the board. I want top 4 to lock in Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist or Robinson (with Sully as a fall back), if we slide to 6, we could be looking at the type of guys that would give us nightmares guys like Drummond or Perry Jones III, or Barnes, guys with low ceilings and/or high bust potential. Yikes. Would much rather have hard working, highly motivated smart guys like Kidd-Gilchrist and Robinson and in a worst case scenario Sully, or a best case scenario of Davis.
If we don't get a great PF, which might be the case at #6, we'll still be looking at a serious upgrade at the SG position with someone like Lamb, for instance. While I certainly agree we want the #1, 2, 3 or 4 instead of the 6, we're still better off this year than most.
I look at it as compensation for the '09 and '11 drafts of the 1st and 3rd horror years being so brutal, hopefully we get some luck in the lotto.
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:39 pm
by hands11
I am starting to believe in the power of Flip as a tank commander. I wouldn't have thought he had it in him before now. But in a short season, with Dray coming into camp out of shape again and with Pam the crazy soccer mom under the basket every game. Yeah, a tank my be the best thing to do.
Coaching and system matter but you could have put MJ out there with almost any coach and he still would have won. Talent can cover up for a lot. And if you get the right talent, they will pretty much lead themselves and gang together. Like they did in OKC.

Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:41 pm
by sfam
hands11 wrote:I am starting to believe in the power of Flip as a tank commander...
Task Force Highlander??? There can be only one? Does this mean Flip is an immortal and will be with us until someone takes his head?
Re: The Tank Watch is in effect
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:36 am
by Jay81
everyone is in full tank mode tonight. Our only hope is New Orleans