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MikeTheKid wrote:

AFM wrote:Harden 45/9/6 14-19 from the field. One of the best boxscores I've ever seen.

46 pimp 46

SICK!!!!!

That's how you say, "Nice trade, expletives"

MikeTheKid wrote:Who would've thought after "The Decision" that the Cavs would be in a better situation than us!

I did know EG was our GM and that other teams seem to consistently do things he can't get done with the Wizards.

Cleveland has rookie Dion Waiters and 2nd-year Tristan Thompson who are going to round into key contributors and good NBA players. Kyrie is already on the way to becoming a superstar. On top of that they have multiple picks plus whatever they might get if they decide to trade a very good Anderson Varejao.

closg00 wrote:

MikeTheKid wrote:Austin Rivers is a pure scrub!!!

Ironic, NO got Vasquez to be a back-up and he has emerged as a decent starter while Rivers clearly should have stayed in-school.

What has been very shocking to me is that not only in Anthony Davis NOT the Rookie of the Year. It is not even close between him and Lillard. Before the season started, I didn't foresee Davis taking a long time to make a big impact.

46 points on 19 shot attempts? I can't remember seeing anything like that before. And he did it on his former team lol.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

closg00 wrote:

MikeTheKid wrote:Austin Rivers is a pure scrub!!!

Ironic, NO got Vasquez to be a back-up and he has emerged as a decent starter while Rivers clearly should have stayed in-school.

What has been very shocking to me is that not only in Anthony Davis NOT the Rookie of the Year. It is not even close between him and Lillard. Before the season started, I didn't foresee Davis taking a long time to make a big impact.

Davis is easily the better rookie, imo. He's got the edge in efficiency (both eFG% and TS%), and is far better in production (PER is 21 vs Lillard's 16). He's also a defensive force, while Lillard is regarded as a below average defender.

Ruzious wrote:Davis is easily the better rookie, imo. He's got the edge in efficiency (both eFG% and TS%), and is far better in production (PER is 21 vs Lillard's 16). He's also a defensive force, while Lillard is regarded as a below average defender.

I agree. I think the reason Lillard gets more hype is because he has exceeded people's expectations while the expectations for Davis were sky high. Davis has clearly been more productive.

dangermouse wrote:Maybe Grunfeld has a fear of beards.

DM, I think your on to something. This past summer wasn't the first time Ernie shot down a James Harden trade.

Remember this?

Oklahoma City reportedly offered the No. 3 pick (which turned out to be James Harden) for McGee and the fifth overall pick before the 2009 draft.

Wall for Davis? Anyone?

GhostsOfGil wrote:

Oklahoma City reportedly offered the No. 3 pick (which turned out to be James Harden) for McGee and the fifth overall pick before the 2009 draft.

To be fair, I would have declined that trade at the time. We had no idea how good Harden would be, and McGee was oozing with potential. Trading McGee just to jump 2 spots in the draft seemed excessive.

Another factor working against Davis in the ROY discussion -- he got hurt early in the season. While he was sidelined, Lillard was playing well and drawing headlines as a "rookie sensation." Add in the "exceeding expectations" part and...well...reporters/analysts haven't seemed all that willing to change the narrative once it's begun to pick up steam.

McGee may or may not have been oozing with potential but imo the bigger factor was that in '09 we were in the Rubio sweepstakes and Steph Curry was a consolation prize. Asking for a McGee kicker was just a tad too much.

Not taking the alleged offer last summer was inexcusable.

Bingo, not trading McGee back then is a defensible move, putting yourself out of the Harden sweepstakes with the New Orleans trade is unforgivable.

Tony Parker >>> Chris Paul

FAH1223 wrote:Tony Parker >>> Chris Paul

Yeah, I watched that game in disbelief - as Parker dominated Paul at both ends. Granted, Parker had a little help from his friends, but SA was playing without Leonard - and it made no difference. Everyone on SA passes well and shoots well and buys into the system - all the way to the backup center. I'm still not sure how Parker scores so well inside. He's what - 6'0 maybe 180, not as good an athlete as Paul, not real explosive or super-fast to the hoop, but he's pretty much unstoppable.

Ruzious wrote:

FAH1223 wrote:Tony Parker >>> Chris Paul

Yeah, I watched that game in disbelief - as Parker dominated Paul at both ends. Granted, Parker had a little help from his friends, but SA was playing without Leonard - and it made no difference. Everyone on SA passes well and shoots well and buys into the system - all the way to the backup center. I'm still not sure how Parker scores so well inside. He's what - 6'0 maybe 180, not as good an athlete as Paul, not real explosive or super-fast to the hoop, but he's pretty much unstoppable.

I think Parker is as good of an athlete as Paul. I never considered Paul to be particularly athletic or explosive. He's just incredibly savvy and skilled with the ball.

Ditto. Also, Parker's game has been incredible this season. He has awesome fakes, spins, and general post moves once he's down low.

Rudy gay 32 points of course..............

Deivy202 wrote:Rudy gay 32 points of course..............

Rudy Gay's efficiency is terrible.

TGW wrote:

Deivy202 wrote:Rudy gay 32 points of course..............

Rudy Gay's efficiency is terrible.

Not in that game. 32 points on 23 shots isn't too bad at all. If he played like that more often, he might even deserve his salary. But he won't. Gay's $18 million a year held Memphis back, it'll hold Toronto back, and it would have had the Wizards treading water. Don't regret Gay, regret Harden.

montestewart wrote:

TGW wrote:

Deivy202 wrote:Rudy gay 32 points of course..............

Rudy Gay's efficiency is terrible.

Not in that game. 32 points on 23 shots isn't too bad at all. If he played like that more often, he might even deserve his salary. But he won't. Gay's $18 million a year held Memphis back, it'll hold Toronto back, and it would have had the Wizards treading water. Don't regret Gay, regret Harden.

No thanks. I'll regret both...

Oh what could have been...