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Re: GT: Raps @ Wiz 2-19-13 7:00PM 

Post#181 » by dandridge 10 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:01 am

Wall certainly did not silence any critics with that god awful performance.

I normally don't have a problem with Wittman's rotations, but tonight I have no idea what he was thinking. Wall was killing the team, and he just kept going back to him. He sits Seraphin for the rest of the game for making 2 dumb turnovers, but then lets Wall rack up 7. Although Price was not exactly lighting it up, he at least was not as bad as Wall. Heck, Temple would have been a better option to run the point tonight.

I also don't get why Crawford can't get off the bench, particularly on a night when we desperately needed someone to create shots. Perhaps he has not been taking' the lack of playing time well, and it has landed him deeper in the doghouse. I wish someone in the media would dig deeper here and get some answers.

At least Beal had a good night.
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Post#182 » by jivelikenice » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:05 am

What frustrates me about Wall is he thinks too damn much. When he came off the bench he aggressively looked to score and didn't worry about the bench players. When he's starting, he can't figure out how to get the other 4 guys touches and get himself going. When he starts off aggressive, he plays well....when he starts off passively, he can't turn it up. He needs to play with the mentality he had when he was riding pine. Attack to get himself going, and use that to create looks for teammates. If he's just gonna pass it in to Okafor and Néne, you might as well have Price in there....
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Re: GT: Raps @ Wiz 2-19-13 7:00PM 

Post#183 » by jivelikenice » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:13 am

dandridge 10 wrote:Wall certainly did not silence any critics with that god awful performance.

I normally don't have a problem with Wittman's rotations, but tonight I have no idea what he was thinking. Wall was killing the team, and he just kept going back to him. He sits Seraphin for the rest of the game for making 2 dumb turnovers, but then lets Wall rack up 7. Although Price was not exactly lighting it up, he at least was not as bad as Wall. Heck, Temple would have been a better option to run the point tonight.

I also don't get why Crawford can't get off the bench, particularly on a night when we desperately needed someone to create shots. Perhaps he has not been taking' the lack of playing time well, and it has landed him deeper in the doghouse. I wish someone in the media would dig deeper here and get some answers.

At least Beal had a good night.


Wittman only made it worse for Wall & the team by putting him back in. Playing Temple would have been a good move, or let Beal run some point....
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Post#184 » by nate33 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:16 am

A couple of things:

- It's not as simple as "Wall is thinking too much", or "Wall should attack more/less". What happened was that Toronto implemented a game plan to stop Wall. They dared him to shoot the jumper, and sagged back on the pick and roll with Nene. That's going to happen all the time now. If Wall can't learn to shoot, he's just never going to be any good in the half court.

- I don't think bringing Crawford would have made much difference. It wasn't a case that the team couldn't get good shots. The Wizards ex-Wall had an eFG% of 49% and earned 19 FTA's. That's fine offensive production. The problem was Wall.

- I don't understand why Wittman is being criticized for playing Booker over Singleton. Booker had 10 points and 6 boards on 67% shooting in 20 minutes. What's wrong with that?

- If Wall can't learn to shoot, he needs to develop a post game.
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Re: GT: Raps @ Wiz 2-19-13 7:00PM 

Post#185 » by nate33 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:17 am

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dandridge 10 wrote:Wall certainly did not silence any critics with that god awful performance.

I normally don't have a problem with Wittman's rotations, but tonight I have no idea what he was thinking. Wall was killing the team, and he just kept going back to him. He sits Seraphin for the rest of the game for making 2 dumb turnovers, but then lets Wall rack up 7. Although Price was not exactly lighting it up, he at least was not as bad as Wall. Heck, Temple would have been a better option to run the point tonight.

I also don't get why Crawford can't get off the bench, particularly on a night when we desperately needed someone to create shots. Perhaps he has not been taking' the lack of playing time well, and it has landed him deeper in the doghouse. I wish someone in the media would dig deeper here and get some answers.

At least Beal had a good night.


Wittman only made it worse for Wall & the team by putting him back in. Playing Temple would have been a good move, or let Beal run some point....

Beal can't run point. Not yet. He's nervous as hell dribbling the basketball. It's not an accident that he never handles the ball at the SG spot for more than 2 dribbles.
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Post#186 » by B-easy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:18 am

As other have said i think wall should play off the ball more, not SG but just off the ball at PG.

Maybe even play price and wall together sometimes. I think wall can guard most SG well.
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Post#187 » by B-easy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:20 am

nate33 wrote:- If Wall can't learn to shoot, he needs to develop a post game.

Which i would really like to see. Apparently Payton is going to work with wall, hopefully that helps him out.

He really should be abusing gaurds like isiah thomas or nate robinson instead they always get the better of him individually.
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Post#188 » by Kanyewest » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:24 am

Wall's defensive effort is good but watching him in the half court was pretty bad tonight. He couldn't knock down any jumpers. I hope he has the confidence to keep taking them because he's not going to get any better with his jumper if he loses confidence in his jumper. I would also like to see Wall attempt more 3 pointers since it seems like his effectiveness from 15 feet is not any more effective then outside the 3 point line. The Raptors had a good game plan in place but still Wall has to hit the jumper or turn the ball over less. Games like these make it seem like that the Wizards should build around Beal instead of Wall although I guess Beal wasn't that good defensively tonight either.
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Post#189 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:25 am

AFM wrote:Heh, JWall gonna teach these dudes how to dougie


Its not much but its something.
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Post#190 » by jivelikenice » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:26 am

B-easy wrote:As other have said i think wall should play off the ball more, not SG but just off the ball at PG.

Maybe even play price and wall together sometimes. I think wall can guard most SG well.


That combo provided a spark versus San Antonio....
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Post#191 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:26 am

AFM wrote:Gentlemen, it's time. Will we see the return of JCraw Da Steez? Will Nene be able to jump more than 5 inches? Will John Wall hit an outside jumper? Stay tuned...


No

Nene got close.

And ahhh NO.
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Post#192 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:28 am

Ruzious wrote:Seraphin's challenging for Javale's title as NBA's Stupidliest Player.


I think Wall is giving him a run for his money.

Hey, can we start to mandate IQ tests before we draft anyone from now on.
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Post#193 » by jivelikenice » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:33 am

nate33 wrote:- I don't understand why Wittman is being criticized for playing Booker over Singleton. Booker had 10 points and 6 boards on 67% shooting in 20 minutes. What's wrong with that?


We just went through this two weeks ago. Spacing matters. Singleton got minutes and helped the floor spacing and the team played better. Now we're back to where we were two weeks ago for no apparent reason. We had no offensive flow. Booker isn't going to help that. Singleton's ability to knock down a shot might help....and he's a good defensive player. Randy's inconsistent rotations are not defensible.
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Post#194 » by Deivy202 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 am

IDK but Wall is up and down with me . Good potential but,
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Post#195 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:36 am

Mickstix wrote:Can the Wiz ever get a player that just continues to improve? Wall has a string a good games then looks worse than last year.. Rinse repeat.. When does the maddness end?? Geez..


We have one. He name is Beal.

Actually we have two. The others name is Crawford. He is currently warming the bench. His number has gotten better year after year after year. Even his defense has gotten better. Not saying build around him. Just saying he has been improving.

As for Wall. Right. Rise. Repeat. Just trade his ass when you get a chance. He isn't smart enough to lead a team at PG. You PG should be one smart dude. Wall is not. Let play Okafor at PG.
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Post#196 » by jivelikenice » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 am

I think Wall has great potential, but he is frustrating. I just don't want to make a decision up unil I see him with a lineup that makes sense, and right now i don't. Give us 20 games of Wall/Beal/Webster/Singleton/Néne, and I think you see a more consistent player.

He has to take some responsibility or his own development, but it maddens me to see this team screw up his development on their end as well.
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Post#197 » by B-easy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:44 am

hands11 wrote:Just trade his ass when you get a chance.

how bout no.
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Post#198 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:45 am

SizzlinSimms wrote:Oh my John "Brick" Wall...


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Post#199 » by Deivy202 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:51 am

jivelikenice wrote:I think Wall has great potential, but he is frustrating. I just don't want to make a decision up unil I see him with a lineup that makes sense, and ought now i don't. Give us 20 games of Wall/Beal/Webster/Singleton/Néne, and I think you see a more consistent player.

He has to take some responsibility or his own development, but it maddens me to see this team screw up his development on their end as well.

after off-season he needs 24.7 jump shots.
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Post#200 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:51 am

TheBigThree wrote:When in doubt, put your head down and charge blindly to the basket. Good plan, John!


LOL. I'm done being mad. That was to funny of a performance to care.

That reached comical.

I will have a hard time taking him serious again. Good player have off nights. But that was in a entirely different category. I mean Kobe can have off nights but that Kobe. You know he can shoot. Did John think he was Kobe. They need to send him to see a doctor to get his head checked. Maybe put him on some meds.

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