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Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:23 pm
by kirubel94
I just ran across this article from Blogsohardsports.com

When your favorite NBA team is 18-37 and hasn’t made the playoffs since the 2007-2008 season, one would think that there is no hope for that particular team. Well in the Washington Wizards situation, that is not the case. Most Wiz fans had playoffs on their minds before the season opened, but injuries derailed that train. Now with all of the Wizards’ key pieces active and a 13-9 record to boot when healthy, next season can’t come soon enough for us Wizards fans (that is if Ted finally fires Ernie and Randy). But over the last two weeks a very interesting topic has come up amongst the Wizards circles. That topic is who the face of the Wizards franchise is: former #1 overall pick John Wall or rookie sensation and #3 overall pick Bradley Beal?

Mr. Beal has been shouldering the scoring load for the last few games, and since the All Star break he has averaged 20.8 points a game. Beal is doing more than just scoring though, as he is averaging 6.8 rebounds and 2.8 assists a game since the break as well. To go along with those stellar numbers, the Wizards are 3-1 during that span with wins over two playoff teams and a surging Raptors team. This team is playing very well and now the Wizards head into games expecting to WIN, not just compete. It’s easy to get caught up in the Beal-mania and overlook the rest of the team, but John Wall has also been very instrumental to the team’s success.

Before Wall returned, the Wizards were a dismal 5-28. Since his return, the Wiz are 13-9. You can’t dispute those numbers that Wall is helping this team win games. Yes Nene was out for a majority of the time Wall was out too, but after watching 99.9% of Washington’s games this year, it’s easy to see that this team is MUCH better when Wall is at the helm controlling things. Sure he still has a shaky jump shot that no one respects and he does have his turnover issues some games, but the record doesn’t lie. This team wouldn’t be 13-9 in their last 24 games if AJ Price was running the show. Plus without Wall in the lineup, Beal was averaging 13 PPG. With Wall, Beal is averaging 15.2 PPG. John is one of the best penetrators in the game, so when you are a deadly shooter like Beal is, the buckets come much easier when you have a dynamic point guard running the offense.

But the question still stands, who is the face of the Wizard’s franchise? Is it the budding 19 year-old Beal who looks to be a future 20 point scorer with a silky smooth jumper who can also rebound, pass, and play solid defense? Or is it the 22 year-old Wall who can get up and down the court faster than almost anybody in the league, can get you 12 assists any given night, and has the potential to be one of the best PG defenders in the game?

It’s a tough question and one that Wizard’s fans haven’t had to answer in a long time. Finally Washington basketball has two young dynamic guards that will hopefully be leading this franchise for the next 10+ years. The fan base in the nation’s capital has a legitimate reason to be excited again for basketball and for right now we all should just leave it at that and enjoy watching the growth of these two. We have two budding stars that are exciting to watch, so why do we need to proclaim one is going to better than the other or that one is more important to the team’s success? We have two players that have the potential to be future All-Stars for years to come and as we all know, every Batman needs a Robin in the NBA. So let’s just be happy we have two young men that are doing their best super-hero impressions to save basketball in DC, and in the years to come we can decide who is Batman and who is Robin.

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It might be a little early for this but why not. So, who is the face of the Wizards franchise?

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:28 pm
by nate33
It's such an arbitrary designation. Why does one person have to be the "face" of the franchise? I hope they both become real good players.

I don't think anybody should be the face of the team unless they reach superstar status. Lebron, Durant, Harden, Duncan and Melo are the face of their respective teams. But who is currently the face of the Brooklyn Nets, or the Indiana Pacers, or the Denver Nuggets? Does it matter?

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:38 pm
by kirubel94
nate33 wrote:It's such an arbitrary designation. Why does one person have to be the "face" of the franchise? I hope they both become real good players.

I don't think anybody should be the face of the team unless they reach superstar status. Lebron, Durant, Harden, Duncan and Melo are the face of their respective teams. But who is currently the face of the Brooklyn Nets, or the Indiana Pacers, or the Denver Nuggets? Does it matter?


It means nothing to me. it may also mean nothing to other Wizards fans, but it always means something to other NBA fans and the media. Paul Gerorge, Deron Williams are currently regarded as the "faces of the franchise" for their respective teams by the media. It has just been a phenomenon that has evolved overtime.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:57 pm
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
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Beal has the poise and calm to express himself in a positive way. He is articulate and loves to smile for the cameras. I think he is going to help Wall tremendously by taking the scrutiny of the spotlight off of John Wall.

Beal is almost already the face of the Franchise just based on the last 2 months of his play.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:59 pm
by dobrojim
it gives the networks and the league a way to advertise

"tune in Sunday and watch LaBron and the Heat take on Kobe and the Lakers"

only the most shallow of fans are really affected by this which makes sense
since the serious fans don't need to be alerted in this fashion. They well know
who plays for which team.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:59 pm
by Nivek
I agree with nate. It doesn't mean anything, except to the soap opera/tabloid-style coverage of NBA teams that's become the latest style. "Dwight and Kobe Don't Like Each other" "Dwight and Kobe Like Each Other" Who gives a ****? Just play ball.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:03 pm
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
Nivek wrote:I agree with nate. It doesn't mean anything, except to the soap opera/tabloid-style coverage of NBA teams that's become the latest style. "Dwight and Kobe Don't Like Each other" "Dwight and Kobe Like Each Other" Who gives a ****? Just play ball.


If the Wizards were better it could mean something. Some players are like the Pied Piper. Others follow them. Beal is considered a good player already. Beal could become the one who represents the Wizards moving forward, and he could be someone other players might want to follow to play with as Wizards.

I don't see guys clamoring to play with Wall but I could see them seeking out Beal's game

(EDITED: DeMarcus Cousins would love to be in DC, with Wall, most likely. I spoke amiss.)

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:29 pm
by Nivek
That's not "face of the franchise," though -- that's people making decisions based on basketball. I agree that other players may want to join forces with Beal, assuming he continues to progress. But I don't think they're going to do it because he's "face of the franchise" or whatever. The Wizards tried that with Wall -- rolling out the red carpet (literally), acting like he was the franchise savior before he'd even signed a contract.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:57 pm
by Ruzious
I don't think I'd want to be the face of a franchise that's done so poorly the last several years. I'd want to wait till they win something.

So, don't vote for me.

I always thought it was weird that Brian Robets was considered the face of the Orioles when they lost 90 plus games every year. Sure enough it backfired. They gave him a ridiculous 4 year extension when there was no need for it - for above market value; he got injured, he's hardly played the last 3 years, and they've declined to get a real replacement for him in the hope that he can somehow make a comeback.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:22 pm
by dobrojim
Andino!
You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:53 pm
by Ruzious
:lol:

At least Andino can throw the ball from 2nd to 1st on less than 2 bounces and won't break his hip trying to run down a bouncer hit a foot to his left.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:13 pm
by payitforward
This is an important question. I can't believe so many of you are ducking it.

Yet, at the same time I think the answer is obvious:

We are a two-faced franchise.

Do you realize what a tremendous advantage that is? It's like having a "big three" -- but they take up less space. The problem will start, tho, when Satoransky gets here.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:44 pm
by AFM
We need a poll. Who is more handsome John or Brad?

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:44 am
by keynote
That's easy.
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Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:49 am
by montestewart
The Wizards have rarely had to contend with this issue. The @$$ of the franchise was usually the hot contest.

PS: I voted for Beal. Maybe he can take the pressure off Wall and let him find a successful pro game.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:12 am
by dandridge 10
To me, the "face of the franchise" is the person who you center your marketing around. Guys like Webster, Okafor or even Nene will never be the "face of the franchise" because no one is going to come out to a ball game to see them play specifically. Right now, I still think Wall is still the face of the franchise because he draws more people to the games. However, I think Beal will likely end up the face of the franchise because he is more personable and more likable, and will likely be the better player.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:01 am
by SizzlinSimms
This is a very loaded and horrible question.

So quick we forget how awful Beal was playing when Wall wasn't playing? Or how Beal was playing at the beginning of the season? If you look at Beal's stats at the beginning of the season you'll see how bad they were too. There is a multiple of factors. One we saw Seraphin gain a lot of minutes of Okafor during that time, once Okafor started playing he was beasting on the boards, etc.

Seeing how awful Beal was before Wall arrived and started allowing for open Js I dunno. You guys so quickly forget. Beal is/will become a great player but he's still learning and he's not the franchise face yet. Wall has been awful the past 4 games but c'mon you guys overreact. Just learn to relax! Once John Wall learns to develop some consistency we're all good!

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:24 am
by fishercob
Beal turned the corner before Wall came back. It's not like the only PG Beal is capable of playing with is Wall.

I hope Beal becomes the "face." He's my kind of player.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:53 pm
by nate33
SizzlinSimms wrote:Just learn to relax! IF John Wall learns to develop some consistency we're all good!

Fixed.

Re: Face of The Franchise: Beal or Wall?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:52 pm
by Knighthonor
nate33 wrote:It's such an arbitrary designation. Why does one person have to be the "face" of the franchise? ?

this. they more like the eyes and ears of the face. still need a mouth.