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Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room?

Nene Discouraged By Wizards' Mindset, 'Getting Tired Of This'
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ed-Of-This

starting to seem like a bad vibe to keep nene around. Wouldnt want him causing more trouble behind closed doors.

Seem to be mad that a lotto team was beat by a skilled deep playoff team that made the finals...

Jordan Crawford got the boot.

Blatch got the boot.

is it time for Nene to get the boot?

He's absolutely right (hypocritical as hell, but still), but he should keep this type of stuff in the lockerroom..

This might be the start of EG being fired though; "max" player not playing like a max player, lockerroom issues, horrible record, no depth, worst team in the league when playoffs was the goal...

So Wizards...

DaRealHibachi wrote:He's absolutely right (hypocritical as hell, but still), but he should keep this type of stuff in the lockerroom..

This might be the start of EG being fired though; "max" player not playing like a max player, lockerroom issues, horrible record, no depth, worst team in the league when playoffs was the goal...

So Wizards...

And you find this funny because...

Knighthonor wrote:Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room?

Nene Discouraged By Wizards' Mindset, 'Getting Tired Of This'
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ed-Of-This

starting to seem like a bad vibe to keep nene around. Wouldnt want him causing more trouble behind closed doors.

Seem to be mad that a lotto team was beat by a skilled deep playoff team that made the finals...

Jordan Crawford got the boot.

Blatch got the boot.

is it time for Nene to get the boot?

I get the feeling you rushed and jumped at the opportunity to start this thread when you saw the article, because this makes no sense. The Wizards play led to Wittman saying things that got him fined, now Nene is voicing his disapproval as the elder statesman with a team that keeps taking steps forward before reverting back to old ways. Why has it even come to this? The Wizards are 2-6...and you think Nene is out of place.

You seem pretty uninformed to think Nene is anything comparable to Blatche or Crawford.

Nene's play is part of their problem. He does make a legit point though. Beal and Wall both took a lot of bad jumpers in that game while the Spurs consistently moved the ball around. Wall took 7 jumpers just in the 3rd quarter.

At this point we have to move forward without Randy.. seems like he is losing the team.

This team is a mess....

I think Nene needs to look in the mirror before calling other people out. His poor rebounding, inability to make free throws and finish plays, and his turnovers have contributed to many of their losses.

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:

Knighthonor wrote:Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room?

Nene Discouraged By Wizards' Mindset, 'Getting Tired Of This'
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ed-Of-This

starting to seem like a bad vibe to keep nene around. Wouldnt want him causing more trouble behind closed doors.

Seem to be mad that a lotto team was beat by a skilled deep playoff team that made the finals...

Jordan Crawford got the boot.

Blatch got the boot.

is it time for Nene to get the boot?

Our young guys think they’re so smart. But if I was young, I would watch video of that game for one week to see if I could learn something, because the way they play is how you’re supposed to play.

“They not talented as us,” Nene continued. “They have great players, a great team, but the way they execute things, the way they cut, the way they exploit weaknesses, swing the ball. They don’t think about stats. We still think about stats. Our young guys must take their heads out their butts and play the right way, because I’m getting tired of this.”

I get the feeling you rushed and jumped at the opportunity to start this thread when you saw the article, because this makes no sense. The Wizards play led to Wittman saying things that got him fined, now Nene is voicing his disapproval as the elder statesman with a team that keeps taking steps forward before reverting back to old ways. Why has it even come to this? The Wizards are 2-6...and you think Nene is out of place.

You seem pretty uninformed to think Nene is anything comparable to Blatche or Crawford.

He is so right except for the them not being as talented.

Nothing that hasn't been said here already. I posted a bunch about this in the Wiz game thread.

Side not.

What NBA team has played the least amount of home games in the league so far...

Answer. Wizards with 2 home games.

Wizards may well have had the toughest schedule in the league so far. I haven't checked, but they have to be up there.

vs a team like Philly lets say. 4-3 at home and 1-1 ( beat Wiz, lost to CLE) on the road for a 5-4 record.

Wizards also played SA, OKC, Miami and Dallas on the road so fair.

Lets not over react just yet. 1.5 games separate the Wizards from 8th place and right now, the schedules have a ton to do with where team fall in the ranking. Lets see what they do with the next two home games and see what happens as the number of home and away games level out. Also, every road game we play isn't going to be against a title contender. Doesn't work that way over the course of a season.

Next road games are against CLE and TOR, not MIA, SA and OKC. We already did that.

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:

DaRealHibachi wrote:He's absolutely right (hypocritical as hell, but still), but he should keep this type of stuff in the lockerroom..

This might be the start of EG being fired though; "max" player not playing like a max player, lockerroom issues, horrible record, no depth, worst team in the league when playoffs was the goal...

So Wizards...

And you find this funny because...

Because this has been going on since I became a Wizards fan in 2008, and absolutely nothing has changed;

Again a superstar player not playing up to his contract for whatever reason (Gil: injury, Wall: injury?/whatever other reason)
Again the disgrunteld vets (AJ/CB vs Nene)
Again the trading of picks for short-term fixes
Again playoffs as goal when team looks like a bottom feeder night in, night out
Again a horrible start of the season record wise
Again the injuries
Again no dependable depth

How can you *not* laugh at all of this..??

Lighten up dude..

If they're losing and playing well only in spurts and not changing, how does it make things worse by having someone on the team actually saying it. I hope it does make his teammates angry, because they're likely not going to change without someone lighting a firecracker up their arses. And apparently the coaching staff and management aren't capable or willing to do it.

dandridge 10 wrote:I think Nene needs to look in the mirror before calling other people out. His poor rebounding, inability to make free throws and finish plays, and his turnovers have contributed to many of their losses.

Free Throw is what bothers me the most about him.

That is inexcusable for a player at his talent level.

But 6 shots from Nene in 25 minute is pretty low specially when your PG is 5-19 in 30 minutes.

But people wanted to see Wall try to take over.

Now I'm not sure if its the offense they run or how they run it. With SA, they start a set and run the offense. Get into it early and run it like a machine. Pass, pump fake, pass, shot. Only Parker and Manu seem to put the ball on the floor and that's when they are driving.

Being as good a SA would be a great goal to have..... for any team.

Ruzious wrote:If they're losing and playing well only in spurts and not changing, how does it make things worse by having someone on the team actually saying it. I hope it does make his teammates angry, because they're likely not going to change without someone lighting a firecracker up their arses. And apparently the coaching staff and management aren't capable or willing to do it.

Which is exactly why you want vets who can speak up on your team.

Should he do it publicly ? Not my call. I don't think what he said was that bad.

Hey, Okafor helped them in this way last year.
Nene spoke up before in the past and it had some effect.
Webster will bring the locker room together. You can count on him playing that role.

Things to consider.

Trevor A is a good player. Webster is a team leader. Gotta get Webster going so last night was good for that.
Randy wants to play better D. Well Temple helps there. Play him over Maynor and D will get better.
Team needs more energy, help rebounding, a player that will make the next pass... That's all Ves

Again, they have had probably the worst schedule in the league. That's part of it. The other part is who and when Randy is playing who he is playing. Another part is Gortat getting there very late. Not to mention no Otto off the bench so far. Otto is a system passing player.

Things should be better very soon.

Good conversation to have. But I don't see Nene as a lockerroom problem.

hands11 wrote:

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:

Knighthonor wrote:Is Nene the next trouble in the locker room?

Nene Discouraged By Wizards' Mindset, 'Getting Tired Of This'
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ed-Of-This

starting to seem like a bad vibe to keep nene around. Wouldnt want him causing more trouble behind closed doors.

Seem to be mad that a lotto team was beat by a skilled deep playoff team that made the finals...

Jordan Crawford got the boot.

Blatch got the boot.

is it time for Nene to get the boot?

Our young guys think they’re so smart. But if I was young, I would watch video of that game for one week to see if I could learn something, because the way they play is how you’re supposed to play.

“They not talented as us,” Nene continued. “They have great players, a great team, but the way they execute things, the way they cut, the way they exploit weaknesses, swing the ball. They don’t think about stats. We still think about stats. Our young guys must take their heads out their butts and play the right way, because I’m getting tired of this.”

I get the feeling you rushed and jumped at the opportunity to start this thread when you saw the article, because this makes no sense. The Wizards play led to Wittman saying things that got him fined, now Nene is voicing his disapproval as the elder statesman with a team that keeps taking steps forward before reverting back to old ways. Why has it even come to this? The Wizards are 2-6...and you think Nene is out of place.

You seem pretty uninformed to think Nene is anything comparable to Blatche or Crawford.

He is so right except for the them not being as talented.

Nothing that hasn't been said here already. I posted a bunch about this in the Wiz game thread.

Side not.

What NBA team has played the least amount of home games in the league so far...

Answer. Wizards with 2 home games.

Wizards may well have had the toughest schedule in the league so far. I haven't checked, but they have to be up there.

vs a team like Philly lets say. 4-3 at home and 1-1 ( beat Wiz, lost to CLE) on the road for a 5-4 record.

Wizards also played SA, OKC, Miami and Dallas on the road so fair.

Lets not over react just yet. 1.5 games separate the Wizards from 8th place and right now, the schedules have a ton to do with where team fall in the ranking. Lets see what they do with the next two home games and see what happens as the number of home and away games level out. Also, every road game we play isn't going to be against a title contender. Doesn't work that way over the course of a season.

Next road games are against CLE and TOR, not MIA, SA and OKC. We already did that.

Yea I thought about the scheduling disadvantage, too. Hopefully early struggles may help develop their characters and prepare em 4 playoff runs.

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:

DaRealHibachi wrote:He's absolutely right (hypocritical as hell, but still), but he should keep this type of stuff in the lockerroom..

This might be the start of EG being fired though; "max" player not playing like a max player, lockerroom issues, horrible record, no depth, worst team in the league when playoffs was the goal...

So Wizards...

And you find this funny because...

Because this same thing has been happening year after year since a certain President/GM took over

I have decided that i am 100% of the tank. I will be cheering for the team to lose every game for the rest of the season just like I do every year after we get off to horrible starts

I want Nene to get Plantar Back...not before he gets traded
I want Wall to have a 2-3 month non serious injury
I want Ariza to miss the next few weeks
i want porter out the year
I want to be forced to play Vesley,Serphain,Booker and Singelton due to injuries
I want to tank like no other year before...

Wall's predictable uncoordinated dribbling style is the main reason this team isn't able to continously exploit defenses in the half court offense. out of control during crunch time and because his lack of elite point guard handling ability allows hte defense to easily force the offense into bad shots. If wall had elite ball control, he could easily force defenses out of position and draw perimeter shooting fouls. He is always out of control because of his lack of ball handling skills in the half court. He can't post any up because of lack of ball handling skills, he can't shoot of the pick and roll because he dribbles the ball high and slow coming around the corner, and he is always jumping in the air in stead of keeping his dribble when driving in the paint, why because of lack of elilte ball dribbling skills. Just watch how controlled paul is after getting into paint, you never see wall with any kind of control after he drives into the paint. Wall's lack of poise and ball handling skills is a key reason for the wizards woes. He is suppose to turn on his elite ability in the 4th quarter when it counts. He spends most of the game trying to sprint down court in a beeline straight to basket, jumps in the air and hopes for contact or the easy pass. He rarely is controlling the defense with poise. He is suppose to be the best player on the team, yet can't be counted on generate high percentage shots during crunch time because--- he is out of control and uncoordinated offensively with the basket in the half court. His biggest attribute was suppose to be his length, yet he doesn't even know how to use it. His biggest asset was suppose to be his quickness, yet he struggles to maintain control of the ball in the half court whenever he has to slow down.
Not holding Wall to a highest standard is the main reason why this board is failing. Wall is suppose to be the key to this team. The leader but he doesn't have elite skills for a point guard. That's the real problem.

WizarDynasty wrote:Wall's predictable uncoordinated dribbling style is the main reason this team isn't able to continously exploit defenses in the half court offense. out of control during crunch time and because his lack of elite point guard handling ability allows hte defense to easily force the offense into bad shots. If wall had elite ball control, he could easily force defenses out of position and draw perimeter shooting fouls. He is always out of control because of his lack of ball handling skills in the half court. He can't post any up because of lack of ball handling skills, he can't shoot of the pick and roll because he dribbles the ball high and slow coming around the corner, and he is always jumping in the air in stead of keeping his dribble when driving in the paint, why because of lack of elilte ball dribbling skills. Just watch how controlled paul is after getting into paint, you never see wall with any kind of control after he drives into the paint. Wall's lack of poise and ball handling skills is a key reason for the wizards woes. He is suppose to turn on his elite ability in the 4th quarter when it counts. He spends most of the game trying to sprint down court in a beeline straight to basket, jumps in the air and hopes for contact or the easy pass. He rarely is controlling the defense with poise. He is suppose to be the best player on the team, yet can't be counted on generate high percentage shots during crunch time because--- he is out of control and uncoordinated offensively with the basket in the half court. His biggest attribute was suppose to be his length, yet he doesn't even know how to use it. His biggest asset was suppose to be his quickness, yet he struggles to maintain control of the ball in the half court whenever he has to slow down.
Not holding Wall to a highest standard is the main reason why this board is failing. Wall is suppose to be the key to this team. The leader but he doesn't have elite skills for a point guard. That's the real problem.

Yuuuuuhhh!!!!

Tell 'em Big Fella!!!

I do agree with WizD that Wall has poor handles for a slashing PG. He's been able to get by because of his ridiculous speed, but I worry that when he's older and not as athletic he's going to get destroyed. His crossover dribble is so predictable, it's that hesitation crossover he does at the free throw line where he brings the ball way up, hesitates, and then crosses over. He doesn't have a sick handle like Irving or Rose.
But that's not why we keep losing. Our bench is garbage and we don't run plays.

Nene really undercut his point when he said the Wizards are more talented than the Spurs. That's just straight crazy talk.