Trevor Booker off the bench could permanently fix this team

[hands11]

Our starting five with Nene in there can hang with anyone.

And Booker coming off the bench with energy is a nice move. Good news is, Kevin can play that same role and so can Ves, just in different ways.

Nene starting helps so much not only because he is a smart big strong vet, but he adds what Wall needs out there the most. While not a perimeter slasher, he is a slasher in a sense. He gets the ball on the block and he will drive from there which puts a lot of pressure on the defense and he generate fouls.

Nene leads the team in FTA/36.

He is also a great passer so its like Wall has some PG help out there.
He generate 3.6 assists/36 and has a AST% of 17.2

Wall, Beal, TA, Nene, Gortat
Wall, Webster, TA, Nene, Gortat
Wall, Beal, Webster, Nene, Gortat

Those are three solid line ups that should be able to go against just about any starting 5 in the league and hang with them. For now, the ones with Webster in it might be the best because Webster helps emotionally anchor Wall in a way Beal can't do yet. Actually, the 3rd option might be the best because then you get Webster and Nene out there and I see them as the two team leaders with Wall.

They have a very solid 6. Problem is, you need a solid 8 or 9 or 10. Seems they have prospect option at PF more so then a guard. So the next move for this team is upgrade at backup PG.

They would get a lot out of an addition like that. So they need to make a trade for a vet like A Miller.

[dobrojim]

touche

[hands11]

Props where it is due.

The last two games, he has been really good in that role as first off the bench. Nene starting give Gortat and Wall everything the need and Booker comes in with rebounds, offense and energy and that works really well.

I still wouldn't go to him exclusively. After he got the first rotation, I felt they should have gone to Ves because they needed more defense and energy then offense or Kevin to give them a different scoring pounch, but over his minutes in total, Booker has produced off the bench. Randy went with his gut and they got the win.

Winning is all that counts in the end so its hard to say Randy didn't do the right thing.

[TGW]

Whitman is playing who he trusts, and Booker is the only bigman off the bench who's earned that right.

The Vesely experiment is over. I figure Seraphin may get spot duties where they need a big body, but Vesely's goose is cooked. They might as well start looking for good trades now.

[JWizmentality]

Jan, Porter for Thaddeus Young

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[hands11]

Whitman is playing who he trusts, and Booker is the only bigman off the bench who's earned that right.

The Vesely experiment is over. I figure Seraphin may get spot duties where they need a big body, but Vesely's goose is cooked. They might as well start looking for good trades now.

I don't think Ves is over at all. Randy is just building a base. Nene is maybe the best player on the team. Now he is starting. They really needed these last two wins in a big way. Randy did what he needed to get them and build a base line. Ves and Kevin will get minutes soon enough.

[Dark Faze]

We get wins with this rotation but it'll come back to haunt us eventually. Nene can't survive the load he's been given since the change. We'll go on a nice run, he'll be out a few games and we'll lose it.

[tontoz]

We've seen this movie before. We know how it ends.

[hands11]

We get wins with this rotation but it'll come back to haunt us eventually. Nene can't survive the load he's been given since the change. We'll go on a nice run, he'll be out a few games and we'll lose it.

Which is why Randy has to do what I have asked all year.

Stay nimble. He needs to start this group against the best teams if they want a chance right now.

Then he needs to change to Nene or Gortat off the bench when they go against easier teams or better match ups. That means everyone of Booker, Ves, and Kevin should get worked in and should start sometimes.

All have shown some good when placed in the right situation and some back when played in other situations.

Its not a perfect roster, but it doesn't totally suck either. They could have won more then they have with better rotations. Now, they need to establish more of the bench players in roles that work and help them grow. And they need to get another back up PG to help build this out.

[DCZards]

Hands, I don't think your plan for rotating starting lineups works at all. Players need to know their roles-- and not on a game to game basis. They need to develop chemistry and continuity with the guys they are most likely to be on the court with. That's why you don't see any teams doing what you suggest, IMO.

I also don't see any scenarios where Ves or KS should or would start...other than injuries.

[TGW]

I also don't see any scenarios where Ves or KS should or would start...other than injuries.

Exactly...as a matter of fact, neither should be playing on a nightly basis. KS and Ves should be situational role players, and should only get minutes when their presence is actually needed. KS would be used when we need some fouls against a big like Howard or Cousins...wouldn't play him outside of that.

I wouldn't play Ves at all unless it's against a team with a very, very weak frontline. I think Wittman is going that route for the rest of the season. Booker and Harrington will get the bulk of the minutes once he gets back.

[dckingsfan]

Hands - who has the highest Total rebounding percentage on the team? Who has the highest win share per 48 minutes?

Go ahead and hate... but he is having a very solid season.

[tontoz]

In the first 2 games this week Nene played 70 minutes. Then he goes 3-15 tonight. Coincidence? I doubt it.

His foot problems aren't going to suddenly disappear. It is important to limit his minutes because we know what will happen when he can't play at all.

[dckingsfan]

In the first 2 games this week Nene played 70 minutes. Then he goes 3-15 tonight. Coincidence? I doubt it.

His foot problems aren't going to suddenly disappear. It is important to limit his minutes because we know what will happen when he can't play at all.

Yep, this is the part I hate - Nene increased minutes to win vs. Nene increased minutes to increase injury risk and decrease per min production.

I am sure Witt must hate this conundrum. Can't we get a poem about this

[Dat2U]

In the first 2 games this week Nene played 70 minutes. Then he goes 3-15 tonight. Coincidence? I doubt it.

His foot problems aren't going to suddenly disappear. It is important to limit his minutes because we know what will happen when he can't play at all.

Limit his minutes, limit our wins. No easy answer on this. Were better when Nene starts, no doubt about it.

It's a catch 22. And while we'll likely win some games now, your right it's only a matter of time before the other shoe drops.

[nate33]

The Vesely experiment is over. I figure Seraphin may get spot duties where they need a big body, but Vesely's goose is cooked. They might as well start looking for good trades now.

The timing seems odd to me.

Vesely just got done having a stretch of 4 or 5 rock-solid games, easily his best stretch of the season. He had one dud against Indy, but who didn't. After that, he got benched completely.

[tontoz]

The Vesely experiment is over. I figure Seraphin may get spot duties where they need a big body, but Vesely's goose is cooked. They might as well start looking for good trades now.

The timing seems odd to me.

Vesely just got done having a stretch of 4 or 5 rock-solid games, easily his best stretch of the season. He had one dud against Indy, but who didn't. After that, he got benched completely.

I think there is something else going on. Seraphin just had a big game in the Houston comeback.

When has Randy ever gone to an 8 man rotation? It looks like an act of desperation to me, probably an order from a GM desperate to save his job.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Vesely experiment is over. I figure Seraphin may get spot duties where they need a big body, but Vesely's goose is cooked. They might as well start looking for good trades now.

The timing seems odd to me.

Vesely just got done having a stretch of 4 or 5 rock-solid games, easily his best stretch of the season. He had one dud against Indy, but who didn't. After that, he got benched completely.

Seraphin and Vesely will be better off with a different coach and team. If not named Wall or Beal, the Wizards basically eat their young (players on rookie deals). First, they draft poorly, then they mismanage by either trying to change the player, or by intimidating the player, or by otherwise neglecting the player. After that they ruin the player's reputation by badmouthing them in the media. They are hard on rookies. Or, they outright release a talent like Kendall Marshall in order to pay more money for a veteran like Eric Maynor. Marshall is lucky to have been waived or he'd end up like Vesely and Seraphin.

Put those two on the Lakers or the Bulls or any of many other teams and coaches would find suitable roles for them. Vesely is a useful player. Seraphin should be a scoring PF. He would start on many teams, the Lakers being one. I hope the Spurs or the Trailblazers trade for either Vesely or Seraphin. They don't make this club better but both can be good role players elsewhere.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I also don't see any scenarios where Ves or KS should or would start...other than injuries.

Exactly...as a matter of fact, neither should be playing on a nightly basis. KS and Ves should be situational role players, and should only get minutes when their presence is actually needed. KS would be used when we need some fouls against a big like Howard or Cousins...wouldn't play him outside of that.

I wouldn't play Ves at all unless it's against a team with a very, very weak frontline. I think Wittman is going that route for the rest of the season. Booker and Harrington will get the bulk of the minutes once he gets back.

Vesely had 3 blocks and 3 steals in limited minutes in the same game. Few players can do that. This coach is not wise enough to fully appreciate this player IMO.

Edited to add: Vesely has an ORTG of 123 and a DRTG of 97 in 6 games, 90 minutes, this January, prior to being benched.

Jan has a very unique skill set.

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[TGW]

Kendal Marshall just had 19 points and 14 assists vs. Boston. Incredible.