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All Things Rasual -- Shrine Begins on Page 5
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:16 am
by Kanyewest
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Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:44 am
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
Rasual Butler can definitely play, but there is no room for him on the roster barring trades.
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Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:04 pm
by boomershadow
We were playing him in backup minutes instead of Evan Turner near the end of last year/playoffs.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:18 pm
by Nivek
I guess Pierce has someone to hang out with in training camp now.
Kudos to the Wizards for being able to land another old guy...umm...veteran.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:20 pm
by GhostsOfGil
Hopefully last year wasn't a statistical outlier. I dont remember him being a particularly good shooter before last season.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:29 pm
by Ruzious
GhostsOfGil wrote:Hopefully last year wasn't a statistical outlier. I dont remember him being a particularly good shooter before last season.
At this point, his only value is his ability to make 3 pointers. If he can't do that consistently, he has no value.
Don't know why they'd even consider him unless Webster is damaged.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:42 pm
by AFM
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Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:45 pm
by CntOutSmrtCrazy
Ruzious wrote:GhostsOfGil wrote:Hopefully last year wasn't a statistical outlier. I dont remember him being a particularly good shooter before last season.
At this point, his only value is his ability to make 3 pointers. If he can't do that consistently, he has no value.
Don't know why they'd even consider him unless Webster is damaged.
A quick look at the stats he's a career 36% shooter from distance, but his two worst years from there were the two seasons before last (a combined 70 or so games). Next to Wall I'd expect him to have a good percentage and I suppose as a third stringer he could have a handful of meaningful games in a season. Nothing special but if he's even to make the team he'll likely get sparse and sporadic minutes.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:10 pm
by nate33
Great, another geezer. It really bugs me when management gets lazy and only looks at "established veterans" instead of diamond-in-the-rough up-and-comers.
This is a bad signing. Never take on an NBA guard or forward age 33 or older unless he was a legit star or at least an above-average starter/borderline All Star in his prime. Butler was only good enough to be a fringe starter when he was at his physical peak. Now that he's 35, he has no chance to compete at this level. I'd take anybody from the D-Leagues over him.
I really don't understand why we're not looking to add a young, up-tempo PG instead of more veteran swing men.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:12 pm
by Dat2U
I think the key word to focus on here is "non-guaranteed".
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:13 pm
by LyricalRico
nate33 wrote:Great, another geezer. It really bugs me when management gets lazy and only looks at "established veterans" instead of diamond-in-the-rough up-and-comers.
This is a bad signing. Never take on an NBA player age 33 or older unless he was a legit star or at least an above-average starter/borderline All Star in his prime. Butler was only good enough to be a fringe starter when he was at his physical peak. Now that he's 35, he has no chance to compete at this level. I'd take anybody from the D-Leagues over him.
I really don't understand why we're not looking to add a young, up-tempo PG instead of more veteran swing men.
Eh, I don't think it's bad at all since there's no risk. And it doesn't preclude signing another PG, or another D-League swingman for that matter. Let's see who else they bring in.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:13 pm
by LyricalRico
Dat2U wrote:I think the key word to focus on here is "non-guaranteed".
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:41 pm
by Nivek
Non-guaranteed or not, nate's mostly right. This is paint-by-numbers team "building." There's zero upside with Butler. He peaked years ago as a below-average player. Last season he was above replacement level in my ratings, but not by a lot. The Wizards have veterans. They could have brought a young player or two to camp who has some ability -- sorta like what the Spurs often do. Instead, they sign an old guy who at best is going to give them a year of sub-par basketball.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:04 pm
by Rafael122
Dude's probably going to shoot like 40% from 3 and we'll be here in May 2015 saying how great and underrated signing this was.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:19 pm
by daSwami
My first reaction - This guy's still in the league? I like the "non-guaranteed" part though. Does that mean we could simply cut him when Webster comes back?
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:52 pm
by JWizmentality
Rafael122 wrote:Dude's probably going to shoot like 40% from 3 and we'll be here in May 2015 saying how great and underrated signing this was.
If he even makes the team.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:41 pm
by Dat2U
daSwami wrote:My first reaction - This guy's still in the league? I like the "non-guaranteed" part though. Does that mean we could simply cut him when Webster comes back?
It means we can simply cut him in training camp or preseason.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:27 am
by hands11
LyricalRico wrote:Dat2U wrote:I think the key word to focus on here is "non-guaranteed".
Just a place holder.
If Ray was interesting in joining, he would get cut tomorrow.
Or any other player we needed more for that matter.
Just another vet for camp. Vets are good for young players like Wall, Beal, Otto, Glen and Kevin.
Miller will be gone next year. We will add someone younger then him as his replacement.
And PP is done the year after that. Another young piece will get added then.
And at that point, Beal and Otto will still only be 23 with Wall in his prime at 26
Adding older fringe players is not a concern right now. Specially since the place we would need one the most is in he front court and that is filled with players already. We aren't getting another younger player there until Kevin is gone.
Re: Rasual Butler sign non-guaranteed deal with the Wizards
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:37 am
by Knighthonor
i Wonder why they signing this guy. So many other better spots to fill.
Re: Bulter will make the final 15
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:42 pm
by hands11
hands11 wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:hands11 wrote:Updated for the CHA game.
Dude is looking good.
Couple more games to go. Its a battle for that spot if they are going to fill it.
I'm guessing you wrote this before that utterly putrid second half.
LOL
I did.
Neither has played well for a entire game.
Wait. I meant John Lucas III
Oh I give up.