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How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup plan?
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 4:06 am
by Knighthonor
How much can the Washington Wizards rely on Paul?
this Paul signing can go two ways . It can go for the good, and bring more FAs to DC (Kevin

)
Or
It can go bad.
But let's discuss the possibility of the bad. With a big name like Paul here in DC, if things go bad, how much would that stain the Wizard's image for future of FA.
What's the backup by the way?
With the gap left from Ariza in terms of 3 point shooting and defense, can Paul fill that in and some more?
What's the backup plan here?
Because besides Paul, what other additions were added to really push he Wizards over the hump? Because the news of the last additions don't seem too exciting.
Maybe I am worrying too much. Peace.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 4:14 am
by WallWithTheDime
, porter, webster, rice can play 3, and with new additions of perhaps blue, or damion james i think thats 3-4 deep in that group
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 4:18 am
by montestewart
Knighthonor wrote:How much can the Washington Wizards rely on Paul?
this Paul signing can go two ways . It can go for the good, and bring more FAs to DC (Kevin

)
Or
It can go bad.
But let's discuss the possibility of the bad. With a big name like Paul here in DC, if things go bad, how much would that stain the Wizard's image for future of FA.
What's the backup by the way?
With the gap left from Ariza in terms of 3 point shooting and defense, can Paul fill that in and some more?
What's the backup plan here?
Because besides Paul, what other additions were added to really push he Wizards over the hump? Because the news of the last additions don't seem too exciting.
Maybe I am worrying too much. Peace.
Bad would be Pierce falling off a cliff, Porter proving to be, if not a bust, at least not ready for prime time, Webster coming back really slow from injury, and Rice being a dud in real NBA games. No would accuse me of being an optimist, but I also don't usually expect perfect storms of 24/7 suck either, even after all these years of being Wizets fan.
If Pierce really shows his age but Porter is ready to take on more 3 and D, might not be so bad, especially since Porter's a lot more of the future than Pierce is.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 4:40 am
by Kanyewest
montestewart wrote:Bad would be Pierce falling off a cliff, Porter proving to be, if not a bust, at least not ready for prime time, Webster coming back really slow from injury, and Rice being a dud in real NBA games. No would accuse me of being an optimist, but I also don't usually expect perfect storms of 24/7 suck either, even after all these years of being Wizets fan.
If Pierce really shows his age but Porter is ready to take on more 3 and D, might not be so bad, especially since Porter's a lot more of the future than Pierce is.
Bad would be some combination of the above and John Wall gets injured. Bradley Beal regresses back to last year's regular season - I can take mid range shots even though I don't hit them. I hope none of that happens.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 4:57 am
by montestewart
Kanyewest wrote:montestewart wrote:Bad would be Pierce falling off a cliff, Porter proving to be, if not a bust, at least not ready for prime time, Webster coming back really slow from injury, and Rice being a dud in real NBA games. No would accuse me of being an optimist, but I also don't usually expect perfect storms of 24/7 suck either, even after all these years of being Wizets fan.
If Pierce really shows his age but Porter is ready to take on more 3 and D, might not be so bad, especially since Porter's a lot more of the future than Pierce is.
Bad would be some combination of the above and John Wall gets injured. Bradley Beal regresses back to last year's regular season - I can take mid range shots even though I don't hit them. I hope none of that happens.
Sure plenty of bad things could happen, man, that's the reason I'm a Bullets fan. I was focusing more on bad at the SF, but a wall injury would really send things into the suckosphere.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 5:41 am
by Knighthonor
montestewart wrote:Kanyewest wrote:montestewart wrote:Bad would be Pierce falling off a cliff, Porter proving to be, if not a bust, at least not ready for prime time, Webster coming back really slow from injury, and Rice being a dud in real NBA games. No would accuse me of being an optimist, but I also don't usually expect perfect storms of 24/7 suck either, even after all these years of being Wizets fan.
If Pierce really shows his age but Porter is ready to take on more 3 and D, might not be so bad, especially since Porter's a lot more of the future than Pierce is.
Bad would be some combination of the above and John Wall gets injured. Bradley Beal regresses back to last year's regular season - I can take mid range shots even though I don't hit them. I hope none of that happens.
Sure plenty of bad things could happen, man, that's the reason I'm a Bullets fan. I was focusing more on bad at the SF, but a wall injury would really send things into the suckosphere.
I didn't watch much of the Nets' but how much of Ariza you believe Paul makes up?
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 11:21 am
by montestewart
Knighthonor wrote:montestewart wrote:Kanyewest wrote:
Bad would be some combination of the above and John Wall gets injured. Bradley Beal regresses back to last year's regular season - I can take mid range shots even though I don't hit them. I hope none of that happens.
Sure plenty of bad things could happen, man, that's the reason I'm a Bullets fan. I was focusing more on bad at the SF, but a wall injury would really send things into the suckosphere.
I didn't watch much of the Nets' but how much of Ariza you believe Paul makes up?
I don't think Pierce this year contributes as much as Ariza last year. Maybe Ariza himself doesn't do that much. My guess is Pierce contributes no more than 5 win shares this year, mostly on the offensive end. Ariza had 8 win shares last year.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 12:48 pm
by Ruzious
The plan is to ease into Otto dependence.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 1:04 pm
by hands11
Same plan we have been talking about since they drafted Otto
The moment they drafted him it was for TA insurance if he stayed and as his replacement long term if he left.
TA left, so they acquired The Truth as the bridge so we had cap room in 2016 in case something good is there for us.
I think its all been well detailed already hasn't it ?
Ease Otto in. Use Glen where needed.
Use Paul now as the starter. Have him lead. Have him hit 3s and be clutch. Create.
Have Otto be the young legs doing his all around game. 3s, slashing, defense, passing, rebounding
Rest Paul as needed.
And they also have Webster to replace TA if by some crazy event Paul and Otto go down. Web is ahead of sch.
Paul is good for a min 75 games. Very rarely does he give you less then that.
Go to the ECF and see what happens from there.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Thu Oct 2, 2014 6:21 pm
by Higga
I think by midseason we'll all be clamoring for Porter to get more minutes.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 12:55 am
by FreeBalling
Knighthonor wrote:How much can the Washington Wizards rely on Paul?
this Paul signing can go two ways . It can go for the good, and bring more FAs to DC (Kevin

)
Or
It can go bad.
But let's discuss the possibility of the bad. With a big name like Paul here in DC, if things go bad, how much would that stain the Wizard's image for future of FA.
What's the backup by the way?
With the gap left from Ariza in terms of 3 point shooting and defense, can Paul fill that in and some more?
What's the backup plan here?
Because besides Paul, what other additions were added to really push he Wizards over the hump? Because the news of the last additions don't seem too exciting.
Maybe I am worrying too much. Peace.
WTF
Our team is going in a positive direction and you bring that negative defecation here.
If PP has anything left in the tank he's going to play. Furthermore, he's going to offer a different mindset to ALL OF OUR PLAYERS. He is an elite hall of fame player.
Do you think PP is talking about your NEGATIVE topic in the locker room?
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 1:49 am
by montestewart
FreeBalling wrote:Knighthonor wrote:How much can the Washington Wizards rely on Paul?
this Paul signing can go two ways . It can go for the good, and bring more FAs to DC (Kevin

)
Or
It can go bad.
But let's discuss the possibility of the bad. With a big name like Paul here in DC, if things go bad, how much would that stain the Wizard's image for future of FA.
What's the backup by the way?
With the gap left from Ariza in terms of 3 point shooting and defense, can Paul fill that in and some more?
What's the backup plan here?
Because besides Paul, what other additions were added to really push he Wizards over the hump? Because the news of the last additions don't seem too exciting.
Maybe I am worrying too much. Peace.
WTF
Our team is going in a positive direction and you bring that negative defecation here.
If PP has anything left in the tank he's going to play. Furthermore, he's going to offer a different mindset to ALL OF OUR PLAYERS. He is an elite hall of fame player.
Do you think PP is talking about your NEGATIVE topic in the locker room?
NO NEGATIVE PP IN THE LOCKER ROOM!!!!!
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 12:24 pm
by Knighthonor
FreeBalling wrote:Knighthonor wrote:How much can the Washington Wizards rely on Paul?
this Paul signing can go two ways . It can go for the good, and bring more FAs to DC (Kevin

)
Or
It can go bad.
But let's discuss the possibility of the bad. With a big name like Paul here in DC, if things go bad, how much would that stain the Wizard's image for future of FA.
What's the backup by the way?
With the gap left from Ariza in terms of 3 point shooting and defense, can Paul fill that in and some more?
What's the backup plan here?
Because besides Paul, what other additions were added to really push he Wizards over the hump? Because the news of the last additions don't seem too exciting.
Maybe I am worrying too much. Peace.
WTF
Our team is going in a positive direction and you bring that negative defecation here.
If PP has anything left in the tank he's going to play. Furthermore, he's going to offer a different mindset to ALL OF OUR PLAYERS. He is an elite hall of fame player.
Do you think PP is talking about your NEGATIVE topic in the locker room?
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... f-Contract not sure how beat up this backup will be. but Paul is filling in the gap of TA, and thats a large hole to fill.
also the East just got dangerous. Lebron back with the Cavs, and Rose with the bulls,
besides Paul to replace TA, what have the Wizards done to improve the team beyond last season?
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 1:27 pm
by dckingsfan
There isn't a backup plan. Either Pierce does the job and Porter develops into a legit NBA player or we are stuck (at least for this year). Webster can play a few minutes if his back heals - but that is a BIG if...
So, Pierce has to step up (and there isn't a good reason to suspect he won't) and so does Porter (and there is a very good reason to suspect he won't).
Either way, it will be fascinating.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 3:08 pm
by WallWithTheDime
dckingsfan wrote:There isn't a backup plan. Either Pierce does the job and Porter develops into a legit NBA player or we are stuck (at least for this year). Webster can play a few minutes if his back heals - but that is a BIG if...
So, Pierce has to step up (and there isn't a good reason to suspect he won't) and so does Porter (and there is a very good reason to suspect he won't).
Either way, it will be fascinating.
What's the reason to suspect Porter won't step up, Had a good summer league, getting compliments from vets I.E Paul Pierce already, can only go up from here, and showed some signs last year of good play.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 4:47 pm
by Knighthonor
dckingsfan wrote:There isn't a backup plan. Either Pierce does the job and Porter develops into a legit NBA player or we are stuck (at least for this year). Webster can play a few minutes if his back heals - but that is a BIG if...
So, Pierce has to step up (and there isn't a good reason to suspect he won't) and so does Porter (and there is a very good reason to suspect he won't).
Either way, it will be fascinating.
What's the reason to suspect Porter not to step up?
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 6:27 pm
by dckingsfan
Knighthonor wrote:dckingsfan wrote:There isn't a backup plan. Either Pierce does the job and Porter develops into a legit NBA player or we are stuck (at least for this year). Webster can play a few minutes if his back heals - but that is a BIG if...
So, Pierce has to step up (and there isn't a good reason to suspect he won't) and so does Porter (and there is a very good reason to suspect he won't).
Either way, it will be fascinating.
What's the reason to suspect Porter not to step up?
He is basically playing as a rookie... I think he is going to be fine - but I think he struggles a bit this year. I think it will take another year to get his body NBA ready as well.
Edit: But it would be really cool if he just crushes it!
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Fri Oct 3, 2014 8:14 pm
by WallWithTheDime
Give Wall, a past, or present 10 X all star,l or any all star to his team then we will see wonders.
Wall hasn't really played with an all star unless you consider that first weird year when he kind of played alongside Arenas who had fallen off a cliff.......I just want to see how he does with a future HOF scorer even at this age I think Pierce has a better year then he did last year..look at the team around Pierce last year.
Lets face it no matter how many people want to argue Wall never really had a go to all star- scorer, he had Beal coming off his second year and they improved dramatically which is great
Wall also had to play With Ariza who isn't that good offensively but can knock down the corner 3, partly thanks to Wall. 2 seasons ago Pierce was still averaging 18-19 points with Boston. I think this year he has a better passing point guard then Deron Williams and I think he averages more points... and without Ariza I think they were still a pretty good defensive team for who they had.
If Wall gets in the mindset that he can pass it more then needs to score, then he will average 10+ assists a game, and probably lead the league in assists.
as for the plan looks pretty good, sign a x10 all star paul pierce, teach the young guys some things, mentor otto porter, set an example for training camp/etc, and not take all the minutes away from Porter.
Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Sat Oct 4, 2014 1:46 am
by FreeBalling
Who was that MVP of summer league? Shame on you people for forgetting him, that kid is hungry and should be given the opportunity to earn some minutes. Small minutes.
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Re: How much can the Wizards rely on Paul? What's backup pla
Posted: Tue Oct 7, 2014 6:30 pm
by Bad-Thoma
PP might not be what he once was but you guys won't be disappointed. His game has always been predicated on footwork rather than athleticism which is why he's continued to contribute at an age where most NBA players have fallen way off. He might not be quick, but he's always been deceptively strong and been able to get his shots off against almost anyone, and that ice he calls blood won't be thawing any time soon. Good luck this year.