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Wizardspride wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Wizards would be doing much better giving Blair the 15-25 minutes they give Seraphin each game.

I don't really see it, CCJ.

I think Blair is OK but I don't think he's as talented as Kevin.

Especially from an offensive standpoint.

Do you see Blair as the type of player that you can run an offense through?

Honestly, I don't.

Blair is a better rebounder, I'll give him that.

Fair enough, Wizardspride. I suspect Coach Wittman and most Wizards fans who only have seen a little of Blair feel the same way you do.

Blair has a body of work. As a rookie he started for Popovich on the Spurs.


That alone should tell you he's better than Seraphin as far as I'm concerned. But he had some issues with fouls. He played a year for Dallas. Played less than another underappreciated talent, Brandan Wright. Bounced from their to the Wizards. Where he's got to compete with FOUR YEAR WIZARD, Kevin Seraphin. Think the coach could have a bias? I certainly do. Heck, even Gooden is ahead of Blair in the rotation.

Do I see Blair as the type of player I can run an offense through? Yes. He doesn't have Kevin Seraphin's smooth hook, silky face up, and lightening quick first two steps. Blair doesn't bringing thunder on his dunks. He doesn't LOOK as smooth as Seraphin.

How would you compare the two? I will use CAREER PER 100 POSSESSIONS.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rde01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... pke01.html

G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS ORtg DRtg
380 179 6720 9.2 17.4 .529 0.0 0.1 .000 9.2 17.4 .531 2.9 4.7 .611 6.0 9.9 15.9 2.6 2.3 1.0 3.4 7.1 21.3 107 102
288 31 4756 9.1 18.4 .494 0.0 0.0 .000 9.1 18.4 .494 2.1 2.9 .713 4.2 7.2 11.5 1.6 0.7 2.4 3.6 7.3 20.3 96 105

Blair scores more on less FGA. He shoots at a higher %. He gets to the FT line 60% more often. (Kevin is a much better FT shooter). Blair is a MUCH better rebounder. Blair is a MUCH better passer. He actually turns it over around the same and fouls around the same; but he gives you more efficient scoring, many more possessions, MUCH BETTER OFFENSE BECAUSE HE'S NOT A BLACK HOLE. See the points, offensive rating, and defensive rating? Blair is higher in all of those.

Now the bias of course is Blair has cleaner stats, having played with San Antonio and Dallas. Kevin would have better stats if he played with those teams.

I would say rebounding and passing clearly favor Blair.
Kevin has go to moves, but Blair gets good looks and makes a better percentage of shots because he's a smarter player.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Roger that, LR.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If your argument is Blair looked bad in preseason.... weak.

If your argument is he's behind so and so in the depth chart .... ultra weak.

Bottom line is Wittman is wrong about Blair and I am right about Blair.

LyricalRico wrote:Actually, when paying homage to somebody who doesn't play, I believe the title should say "shrine" instead of mere "appreciation" (see Laron Profit).

nate33 wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If your argument is Blair looked bad in preseason.... weak.

If your argument is he's behind so and so in the depth chart .... ultra weak.

Bottom line is Wittman is wrong about Blair and I am right about Blair.

My argument is that Blair has not impressed Wittman in hundreds of hours of practice, and he hasn't impressed anybody with his in-game production. It's telling that Wittman utilizes Gooden when one of our 4 rotation bigs is unable to play.

nate33 wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If your argument is Blair looked bad in preseason.... weak.

If your argument is he's behind so and so in the depth chart .... ultra weak.

Bottom line is Wittman is wrong about Blair and I am right about Blair.

My argument is that Blair has not impressed Wittman in hundreds of hours of practice, and he hasn't impressed anybody with his in-game production. It's telling that Wittman utilizes Gooden when one of our 4 rotation bigs is unable to play.

80sballboy wrote:I would never play Gooden over Blair. Gooden looks like he's done in his few appearances. Blair has all that playoff experience and has played with two great franchises in Dallas and San Antonio. Yet Seraphin has showed me something. Personally, it depends on what you're looking for. More beef and rebounding or scoring? Perhaps we need a rim protector more and neither fits that mold though KS is the closest thing to that.

As for what Blair has brought this year? I don't even know how you can judge his garbage minutes. Maybe he's not "practicing well", but how much practice do they really get at this point? Bottom line is that I don't think either is the answer to our problems. I wouldn't hesitate to trade either one to get a stretch 4, athletic combo guard or backup 1. Even a backup 3.

And I say that as one who was thrilled to have Blair here. I guess with possibility that Nene could always miss time, you want to keep around another 5/4 just as insurance.

hands11 wrote:

nate33 wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If your argument is Blair looked bad in preseason.... weak.

If your argument is he's behind so and so in the depth chart .... ultra weak.

Bottom line is Wittman is wrong about Blair and I am right about Blair.

My argument is that Blair has not impressed Wittman in hundreds of hours of practice, and he hasn't impressed anybody with his in-game production. It's telling that Wittman utilizes Gooden when one of our 4 rotation bigs is unable to play.

I won't assume that until we see this play out.

Like I have said, they know Blairs value and he is signed next year. They can turn to him whenever they want or trade him.

Kevin is the one with more upside. Either to keep or trade. Just have to see how it plays out.

For the first half of the season, playing Kevin was a fine plan among several. I would say his value has increased. And they have won along the way.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

80sballboy wrote:I would never play Gooden over Blair. Gooden looks like he's done in his few appearances. Blair has all that playoff experience and has played with two great franchises in Dallas and San Antonio. Yet Seraphin has showed me something. Personally, it depends on what you're looking for. More beef and rebounding or scoring? Perhaps we need a rim protector more and neither fits that mold though KS is the closest thing to that.

As for what Blair has brought this year? I don't even know how you can judge his garbage minutes. Maybe he's not "practicing well", but how much practice do they really get at this point? Bottom line is that I don't think either is the answer to our problems. I wouldn't hesitate to trade either one to get a stretch 4, athletic combo guard or backup 1. Even a backup 3.

And I say that as one who was thrilled to have Blair here. I guess with possibility that Nene could always miss time, you want to keep around another 5/4 just as insurance.

Seraphin IMO is a 4/5 and Blair is a 5/4.

Both of them are 25 years of age.

I don't think it should be either or. Play both guys together some, but recognize the (far) more effective player is ...

Dejuan Blair

80s, I think the best of all worlds would be to wait for Larry Sanders to get bought out by Milwaukee. He's a good rim protector. Waive Gooden as Sanders gets acquired. Trade Seraphin and Webster for a beast combo guard who can defend speedy players. Play Blair until Sanders comes up to speed.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

nate33 wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If your argument is Blair looked bad in preseason.... weak.

If your argument is he's behind so and so in the depth chart .... ultra weak.

Bottom line is Wittman is wrong about Blair and I am right about Blair.

My argument is that Blair has not impressed Wittman in hundreds of hours of practice, and he hasn't impressed anybody with his in-game production. It's telling that Wittman utilizes Gooden when one of our 4 rotation bigs is unable to play.

Telling to me that Wittman has favorites. Guys he previously coached. Blair came after Nene, Gortat, Seraphin, Gooden, and Humphries (who had a connection with RW from Minnesota days).

Blair is not a stretch four.

What he is is a tremendous sub in the playoffs. He is a gamer who does more than grab a lot of rebounds.

TheSecretWeapon wrote:Blair is an unorthodox player. There are some great quotes from Popovich about not having a clue how Blair can be any good. But, Blair has been pretty good. Much better as a pro than Seraphin. It's difficult to believe Blair has suddenly forgotten how play ball -- which is what it would take for him to be less productive than Seraphin has been this year.

My guess is that the coaches believe they're playing Seraphin for his offense, and they think he's helping. If that's what they think, they're wrong. But, that still might be what they're thinking.

TheSecretWeapon wrote:Blair is an unorthodox player. There are some great quotes from Popovich about not having a clue how Blair can be any good. But, Blair has been pretty good. Much better as a pro than Seraphin. It's difficult to believe Blair has suddenly forgotten how play ball -- which is what it would take for him to be less productive than Seraphin has been this year.

My guess is that the coaches believe they're playing Seraphin for his offense, and they think he's helping. If that's what they think, they're wrong. But, that still might be what they're thinking.

nate33 wrote:

TheSecretWeapon wrote:Blair is an unorthodox player. There are some great quotes from Popovich about not having a clue how Blair can be any good. But, Blair has been pretty good. Much better as a pro than Seraphin. It's difficult to believe Blair has suddenly forgotten how play ball -- which is what it would take for him to be less productive than Seraphin has been this year.

My guess is that the coaches believe they're playing Seraphin for his offense, and they think he's helping. If that's what they think, they're wrong. But, that still might be what they're thinking.

I don't think Blair has forgotten how to play ball. I just think that Blair has only been successful when playing alongside a stretch four like Bonner or Nowitzki. I think he ruins spacing on offense but managed to find two teams who had the personnel to make it work.