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Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:01 pm
by AFM
This one could get nasty.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:23 pm
by Higga
Should be a fun game. I'll be there.
GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:41 pm
by J-Ves
In the words of hands11, this is a lose
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Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:47 pm
by TGW
J-Ves wrote:In the words of hands11, this is a lose
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not if we make our shoots

Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:41 pm
by nuposse04
Lou Williams is going to annihilate Andre Miller. No more Webster Randy, we've seen what Porter can do if given a real chance. I think it'll be a close game. Wall v. Lowry is always pretty fun.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:50 pm
by long suffrin' boulez fan
I think Wiz are due to put a hurting on Barney... Especially with the Dinos on a back to back.
The trash talking leading up to this one will be epic!
Bring it on Canuckleheads!
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:10 am
by sortpar
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I think Wiz are due to put a hurting on Barney... Especially with the Dinos on a back to back.
The trash talking leading up to this one will be epic!
Bring it on Canuckleheads!
Could happen, the game will be the Raptors fourth game in five nights.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:24 am
by tontoz
Let's try to refrain from baiting Raps fans in the game thread.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:37 am
by MOrgil
The Wiz better show up strong after their crappy 2-2 West coast trip. Our old guys are all in a slump, Randy needs to make changes to his substitutions. Maybe think about playing Temple and Porter more. And Bradley Beal has sucked this year.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:41 am
by hands11
nuposse04 wrote:Lou Williams is going to annihilate Andre Miller. No more Webster Randy, we've seen what Porter can do if given a real chance. I think it'll be a close game. Wall v. Lowry is always pretty fun.
Temple is going to annihilate Lou Williams. No more Professor Randy, we've seen what Temple can do if given a real chance. I think it'll be a close game. Wall v. Lowry is always pretty fun.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:09 am
by hands11
TOR 25.3 threes a game
WIz 15.8 threes a game
If we try to beat them scoring 2s vs their 3s. I don't think we will make is up in efficiency and volume.
And A Miller should not see the court against TOR. Vaz and Lou will eat him up.
Also, Miller is 1-7 on the SEASON
Thats in 47 games. Here is what he 3 ball line says. 0.0-0.1
His one made over 47 games doesn't even register.
He is 83rd for PGs shooting 3s. That's damn near dead last.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... s/count/81" target="_blank
Man, I love the Professor, but that is TERRRABLE.
GS might be able to get away with that from a younger Livingston as their back up with Curry and Klay jacking up 3s, but the Wizards can't live with Miller not shooting it or not being able to shoot it.
57 John Wall, PG .302 on 2 attempts have got to do better as well.
Wizards could use someone from this list page one
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... int-guards" target="_blank
15 C.J. Watson, PG IND .393 33 for 84
23 Pablo Prigioni, PG NY ..375 42 for 112 would only coast a 2nd. NY said so.
But if not them, Wizards have to let Temple play back up PG.. He is listed as a SG so not on that list
Garrett Temple, SG .388 19 for 49
And Temple can defend. And dunk. And run.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:49 am
by long suffrin' boulez fan
hands11 wrote:TOR 25.3 threes a game
WIz 15.8 threes a game
If we try to beat them scoring 2s vs their 3s. I don't think we will make is up in efficiency and volume.
And A Miller should not see the court against TOR. Vaz and Lou will eat him up.
Also, Miller is 1-7 on the SEASON
Thats in 47 games. Here is what he 3 ball line says. 0.0-0.1
His one made over 47 games doesn't even register.
He is 83rd for PGs shooting 3s. That's damn near dead last.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... s/count/81" target="_blank" target="_blank
Man, I love the Professor, but that is TERRRABLE.
GS might be able to get away with that from a younger Livingston as their back up with Curry and Klay jacking up 3s, but the Wizards can't live with Miller not shooting it or not being able to shoot it.
57 John Wall, PG .302 on 2 attempts have got to do better as well.
Wizards could use someone from this list page one
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... int-guards" target="_blank" target="_blank
15 C.J. Watson, PG IND .393 33 for 84
23 Pablo Prigioni, PG NY ..375 42 for 112 would only coast a 2nd. NY said so.
But if not them, Wizards have to let Temple play back up PG.. He is listed as a SG so not on that list
Garrett Temple, SG .388 19 for 49
And Temple can defend. And dunk. And run.
I was thinking about CJ Watson as a target. Think he's available? How long is his contract?
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:39 am
by FAH1223
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:hands11 wrote:TOR 25.3 threes a game
WIz 15.8 threes a game
If we try to beat them scoring 2s vs their 3s. I don't think we will make is up in efficiency and volume.
And A Miller should not see the court against TOR. Vaz and Lou will eat him up.
Also, Miller is 1-7 on the SEASON
Thats in 47 games. Here is what he 3 ball line says. 0.0-0.1
His one made over 47 games doesn't even register.
He is 83rd for PGs shooting 3s. That's damn near dead last.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... s/count/81" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Man, I love the Professor, but that is TERRRABLE.
GS might be able to get away with that from a younger Livingston as their back up with Curry and Klay jacking up 3s, but the Wizards can't live with Miller not shooting it or not being able to shoot it.
57 John Wall, PG .302 on 2 attempts have got to do better as well.
Wizards could use someone from this list page one
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... int-guards" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
15 C.J. Watson, PG IND .393 33 for 84
23 Pablo Prigioni, PG NY ..375 42 for 112 would only coast a 2nd. NY said so.
But if not them, Wizards have to let Temple play back up PG.. He is listed as a SG so not on that list
Garrett Temple, SG .388 19 for 49
And Temple can defend. And dunk. And run.
I was thinking about CJ Watson as a target. Think he's available? How long is his contract?
CJ is a free agent this offseason.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:41 pm
by hands11
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:hands11 wrote:TOR 25.3 threes a game
WIz 15.8 threes a game
If we try to beat them scoring 2s vs their 3s. I don't think we will make is up in efficiency and volume.
And A Miller should not see the court against TOR. Vaz and Lou will eat him up.
Also, Miller is 1-7 on the SEASON
Thats in 47 games. Here is what he 3 ball line says. 0.0-0.1
His one made over 47 games doesn't even register.
He is 83rd for PGs shooting 3s. That's damn near dead last.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... s/count/81" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Man, I love the Professor, but that is TERRRABLE.
GS might be able to get away with that from a younger Livingston as their back up with Curry and Klay jacking up 3s, but the Wizards can't live with Miller not shooting it or not being able to shoot it.
57 John Wall, PG .302 on 2 attempts have got to do better as well.
Wizards could use someone from this list page one
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... int-guards" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
15 C.J. Watson, PG IND .393 33 for 84
23 Pablo Prigioni, PG NY .375 42 for 112 would only coast a 2nd. NY said so.
But if not them, Wizards have to let Temple play back up PG.. He is listed as a SG so not on that list
Garrett Temple, SG .388 19 for 49
And Temple can defend. And dunk. And run.
I was thinking about CJ Watson as a target. Think he's available? How long is his contract?
CJ Watson $2,077,000
Pablo Prigioni $1,662,961 $1,734,572
We should be fine at PG next year. I heard Miller wants to play another year but I doubt that he does it on the Wizards. He is still a valuable player in many ways, but what he doesn't do doesn't fix on this team and what he doesn't do is shoot the 3 ball.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:43 pm
by hands11
As someone who always looks for the silver lining and looks to be positive, it hard to do in this scenario until the team comes up with the solution for dealing with this kind of them.
ATL, TOR and even to some degree a few less teams like DEN who are quicker, swam on defense and shoot 3s are a problem.
Been talking about it for a while. The only solution I see given the roster is to alter the line ups against this kind of team and Randy hasn't shown he has the insight to do that.
Power ball in the post
2s vs 3s
No motion offense where they can jump our passing lanes
None 3 ball shooting back up PG
None of that adds up against these kinds of teams.
Temple needs to be the first PG off the bench
Changing the starters so the floor is more spread and Wall start the game more in attack mode
Thats the min that needs to get done.
more aggressive moves, I might even start Webster. He gets up 3s and he can catch and shoot with a quickness Beal can't. And draw fouls. Webby isn't confused about mixing in long 2s. He is looking to shoot 3s and he can get his shot off quick. And draw fouls doing it.
Wall, Webster, Otto, Paul, Gortat would be a better starting line up against a TOR or ATL
Get back to Wall and Gortat PnR.. Gortat needs to be on the move to score.
Otto would gobbles up loose long balls in space on the 3,energy, offensive rebounds. So would Webster
Webster, Otto and Paul would all shoot the 3
Floor would be spread for Wall to drive and he should attack and not kick out 2 ft shots for 3s
and Paul can delayed break iso and draw fouls.
Pull Web, Paul, Gortat at the 5-6 min mark for and see if Beal can keep it going once Webster sets the tone.
come back with
Wall, Beal, Otto, Hump, Nene
Then come back with Temple at PG
Temple, Beal, Rasual, Hump, Nene
Sub in Gooden for Hump when needed as he plays with energy and spreads the floor, draw offensive charges, tip backs, and can spread the floor even more the Hump can.
Kevin only comes in if Nene or Gortat aren't getting it done as both should be at center, not PF making Kev 3rd center.
Miller doesn't see the court unless Temple fails and Wall to to tired
Do something like that, and they might stand a chance.
If they go basic Wall, Beal, Paul, Nene, Gortat to Miller, Webster/Rasual, Otto, Hump, Kevin...and get up 15 three's trading 2pts for 3pts with Beal stepping inside the 3s line for long 2s and Wall passing out of the drive from 2ft for kickouts, they will lose.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:32 pm
by payitforward
I think Miller not shooting 3s might be less of a problem than you make out, Hands.
He doesn't have to, as long as *someone* does! We often have him on the floor w/ both Butler & Beal. The Prof. is so crafty that if we played to *create* 3-point attempts, I'm pretty sure we'd get as many as we could use.
The problem is that we don't play that way. Butler gets his attempts, but unless I'm missing something we rarely run anything to get them for him. And, obviously, Beal doesn't shoot them nearly frequently enough.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:42 pm
by McFilthy
Going to the game with my nephew. Hope the Wizards make some adjustments to avoid another embarrassing loss to Toronto. Like others have suggested, I hope we see more Otto and that he continues to grow and play with more confidence. I like the idea of starting Paul Pierce as a 4 to see if Amir Johnson could handle PP's outside/inside game. I'm not for benching Beal even though he isn't playing awesome right now.
Gut-check game.
Hope Wall's migraines/ankle/achilles aren't bothering him too much or could be a long night. Let's pick & roll Jonas V to death.
Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:03 am
by Wizardspride
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Re: GT #48: Raptors @ Wizards 7 PM (CSN/99.1 FM) [1/31/15]
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:16 am
by Dark Faze
We'll get blown out