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Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:26 pm
by milellie111
TGW wrote:Dark Faze wrote:decent chance of a losing streak in the next few games as well--talking about this stretch:
@ Cavs
Pacers (B2B)
@ Blazers
@ Jazz
@ Nuggets (B2B)
Pistons
Bulls
no path to the playoffs there
we need to go 0-7 here. that's the nail in the coffin for grunfailed and we keep our pick
queridiculo wrote:The goal for the Wizards should be to finish no better than 9th worst, ironically they're just as unlikely to achieve that as they are to reaching the playoffs.
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Reading some of the asinine suggestions on this board lately is mind boggling. A loss here or there, everyone wants to blow it up!! Yet those games we win, Wall posts triple doubles, Marcin averages double doubles on the season, Nene looks to form, Beal averaging 20ppg, Sessions arguing for best backup pg in the league, no one has any praise?
The goal of the Wizards should and will be to remain competitive and win as many games as possible. How can some of you guys as fans actually support prematurely throwing away an entire season purposefully? All for the sake of getting a GM and coach canned? Bush league!!
The players on this team with pride, careers, families and financial obligations, you think they will be on board to give up in the middle of the season to support the agenda of a few realgm posters? You think Ted, a successful billionaire, employer of many Monumental employees and dedicated owner sitting courtside at the games, would be happy to see his franchise mail it in? All to support the agenda a few realgm posters? Season ticket holders, fans with families bringing their kids to the games. How would they feel spending hundreds, thousands of dollars to see this team play at a competitive level? You think they would understand mailing in a season all to support the agenda of a few realgm posters?
Say Grunfeld and Wittman gets fired like many suggest. Kiss the Durant sweepstakes goodbye. He's definitely not coming to a rebuilding team.
A new GM would most likely blow this team up, and take at least 3 or 4 seasons to get it back on track. John Wall would be gone by then as he does not want to stick around on a rebuilding team wasting his career.
Then what? You've lost your main star/franchise player and you have to either trade/draft another one. 5+ years of missing the playoffs, potential revolving door of head coaches and falling back to the dark ages. Is that what some of you want? The grass is not always greener on the other side.
The best thing for the Wizards is to keep Grunfeld. Ted realizes this. The risk is not worth it. Canning him would set this franchise back longer than you might imagine.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:39 pm
by long suffrin' boulez fan
I definitely see this thread reaching 100 pages.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:44 pm
by Ruzious
So you have absolutely no problem with them missing the playoffs (which is overwhelmingly likely now) AND giving up a pick that will very likely be from 10th to 14th.-
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:44 pm
by MJG
Never stop posting milellie, pure gold.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:47 pm
by dckingsfan
Should this thread be merged with the Grunfeld thread
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:50 pm
by closg00
GPDW 2.0, masterful propaganda on-behalf Ernie Grunfeld again.
Merge with the Ernie thread please, have mercy on us mods.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:50 pm
by nate33
You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:52 pm
by TGW
milellie111, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:52 pm
by TheSecretWeapon
milellie111 wrote:Reading some of the asinine suggestions on this board lately is mind boggling.
My exact thoughts every time I read a post from this guy called "millie".
Oh...umm...well...this is awkward.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:59 pm
by dckingsfan
Panicker - is that a word?
I would say we are naysayers, cynics, prophets of doom, EG defeatists...
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:13 pm
by fishercob
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Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:24 pm
by milellie111
nate33 wrote:You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.
Awful Morris trade? So in less than a week and only 4 games played with the Wizards, you've already determined that the Morris trade was awful? Are you able to forsee the future? If so tell me how. Everything i've heard around the league is that the Morris trade was great for the Wizards and has the potential to definitely pay off. Even Jeff Hornacek gave the thumbs up to the Wiz on Morris.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:26 pm
by milellie111
TGW wrote:milellie111, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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Funny. Based on your previous posts, I've imagined you looking similar to those in the Gif.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:27 pm
by nate33
milellie111 wrote:nate33 wrote:You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.
Awful Morris trade? So in less than a week and only 4 games played with the Wizards, you've already determined that the Morris trade was awful? Are you able to forsee the future? If so tell me how. Everything i've heard around the league is that the Morris trade was great for the Wizards and has the potential to definitely pay off. Even Jeff Hornacek gave the thumbs up to the Wiz on Morris.
I was able to foresee the future because I was instantly able to assess the fact that we were extremely unlikely to make the playoffs with or without Morris, so in fact it was a trade of a top 9-14 pick for Marcus Morris. Any fool can understand that a 26-year-old backup forward isn't worth a late lotto pick.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:28 pm
by AFM
#GPDW
Don't make me change the name of our crew to GPDR
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:30 pm
by queridiculo
I feel bad for anybody that hasn't ignored this clown since page 1 of his Grunfeld thread.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:32 pm
by milellie111
Ruzious wrote:So you have absolutely no problem with them missing the playoffs (which is overwhelmingly likely now) AND giving up a pick that will very likely be from 10th to 14th.-
The Morris trade made sense and it still makes sense. Give it time. The guy hasn't even been here a week.
Alan Anderson is in the fold and will help tremendously. This team is very much still alive and has fight. Don't throw in the towel until we're officially eliminated.
Plus, very likely there will not be a player at the caliber of Morris with his skill set at pick in the first round. A young skilled PF who can shoot on a cap friendly deal? It's a win win regardless.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:34 pm
by AFM
Mils you crackin me up homeboy
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:35 pm
by milellie111
nate33 wrote:milellie111 wrote:nate33 wrote:You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.
Awful Morris trade? So in less than a week and only 4 games played with the Wizards, you've already determined that the Morris trade was awful? Are you able to forsee the future? If so tell me how. Everything i've heard around the league is that the Morris trade was great for the Wizards and has the potential to definitely pay off. Even Jeff Hornacek gave the thumbs up to the Wiz on Morris.
I was able to foresee the future because I was instantly able to assess the fact that we were extremely unlikely to make the playoffs with or without Morris, so in fact it was a trade of a top 9-14 pick for Marcus Morris. Any fool can understand that a 26-year-old backup forward isn't worth a late lotto pick.
Morris is starter material. When he tried in Phoenix, he put up good numbers. Think of the potential he has with Wall a top PG in the league. Often, the draft is a crapshoot. Better to have 1 in the hand than 2 in the bush.
Re: Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:37 pm
by queridiculo
nate33 wrote:You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.
This pretty much times a billion.