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It Is Now Officially Time to Part Ways With Ernie Grunfeld

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It Is Now Officially Time to Part Ways With Ernie Grunfeld 

Post#1 » by P'Oed » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:08 pm

My sincerest apologies as I know this should probably be lumped into another thread and most likely will be after I post it. I don't post much and when I do I seem to break the super serious message board laws of the Internet. Sorry.

But I feel like the Prosecution has finally acquired its smoking gun in the case of the People vs. The Grunfeld. Forget every mistake this guy has made for the last 13 years for a second (which is unreal to me in itself that this guy has kept his job for the amount of time that I went from being born to chanting Hebrew while my pizza-faced friends laughed at me at my Bar Mitzvah). This Morris trade was complete failure on all fronts. You don't use fruity buzz words like "jolt" without implications. You essentially told a fanbase, "yeah, this is basically going to at LEAST secure us a playoff spot." Well it didn't. And good luck keeping even my interest as a fan who pays more attention to this team than any human being ever should without a draft to care about. I have absolutely no reason to give a flock of flying f's about this team until late in the summer and short of acquiring Kevin Durant, I really don't think there'll be a reason to care even beyond that.

Looking even further into the future: is Morris now a starter for the foreseeable future? I don't think he'd take too kindly to being a "jolt" off the bench if we were to acquire a starting PF in the offseason. And that's a huge problem. Morris does nothing to change the complexion of the team on either end of the court. He isn't dynamic in any way. Quality rotational big? Sure. Nothing more.

There's no way this trade isn't the final straw. It screamed grasping. It screamed reactionary. It screamed shortsighted. It was a horrible decision and it would be the knockout punch for any GM currently on the ropes with his franchise, let alone one that's been on the mat for almost a decade and a half. Give me a new direction to be excited about; someone with different thinking that can inject a little change.

Again, I'm sorry, I know most of this has been covered elsewhere more thoroughly. I've just had enough already.
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Post#2 » by dckingsfan » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:50 pm

Well said - and yes, it will get merged into the Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's lack of GM skills here (Part 2).
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It Is Now Officially Time to Part Ways With Ernie Grunfeld 

Post#3 » by closg00 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:07 pm

Why does Millie get both The Sky is not Falling AND Have You Pannickers Thought This Through threads?
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Post#4 » by montestewart » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:26 pm

closg00 wrote:Why does Millie get both The Sky is not Falling AND Have You Pannickers Thought This Through threads?

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Post#5 » by AFM » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:41 pm

Did someone mention firm asses?
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Post#6 » by noworriesinmd » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:26 pm

Finally gave up my season tickets. If Terd and Ernie want to shovel sht and call it cavier than I'm an idiot for constantly saying yum. I'll watch this team for free on my big screen TV. Ernie should have been gone years ago. I'm tired of seeing threads like this every season.
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Post#7 » by AFM » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:09 pm

Does Terd still make his pathetic blog posts? Guy is a dolt.
Ernie sucks but Ted is worse IMO. At least Ernie occasionally strikes gold. I can't name one positive thing Ted has done.
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Post#8 » by payitforward » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:21 pm

Ted is full of hot air; he's a pompous guy parading as modest. But, I wouldn't care one bit about that if it weren't Ernie Grunfeld running the franchise. Yes, Ted is a dolt (rhymes with "jolt") for retaining Ernie, but it's still Ernie making the mistakes -- one after the other after the other, out of the past and into the future. With every once in a while a solid move -- emphasis on once in a while.

So I can't promote Ted to the level of indignation I feel against Ernie for his conceit, the "I know better" that he substitutes for actually *knowing* anything well enough to be even moderately effective.
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Post#9 » by montestewart » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:49 am

AFM wrote:Does Terd still make his pathetic blog posts? Guy is a dolt.
Ernie sucks but Ted is worse IMO. At least Ernie occasionally strikes gold. I can't name one positive thing Ted has done.

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Post#10 » by McFilthy » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:50 am

Ernie Grunfeld: Proving doubters right
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Post#11 » by AFM » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:54 am

montestewart wrote:
AFM wrote:Does Terd still make his pathetic blog posts? Guy is a dolt.
Ernie sucks but Ted is worse IMO. At least Ernie occasionally strikes gold. I can't name one positive thing Ted has done.

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I wish Ted would sell the team to someone who cares about basketball. Unfortunately, if we made a Venn diagram of billionaires and people who understand basketball, the middle portion is quite small.
He clearly bought the team because he owned th caps and well, hell why not. Monopolize those ticket sales.
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Post#13 » by gravytrain24 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:59 am

Or is he constantly setting this team up for failure by resigning guys who have a history of being injury prone or drafting guys just to be different or making trades to save his job but not the team


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Post#14 » by TGW » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:58 am

How many years of horrible mismanagement does this team have to deal with before Turd actually fires this effin loser?
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Post#15 » by WallToWall » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:23 am



Success is not measured by how many injured players, or injury prone players you can sign in the hopes of finding the next Bernard King.
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Post#16 » by dckingsfan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:08 pm

WallToWall wrote:
milellie111 wrote:Grunfeld has placed this team in a position to succeed. The team has caught quite a few bad breaks on the roster being one of the most injured in the league.

Success is not measured by how many injured players, or injury prone players you can sign in the hopes of finding the next Bernard King.

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Post#17 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:26 pm

Sure would be nice to have a shot at Buddy Heild.
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Post#18 » by BigA » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:50 pm

We've been over this on the other threads, but I'll be very surprised if Ernie is back next season.
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Post#19 » by FAH1223 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:52 pm

Its been time to part ways with Ernie since 2010.
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Post#20 » by TheSecretWeapon » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:34 pm


The Wizards have had players miss the greatest number of games due to injury this season, but the injuries were to relatively unproductive players. Man Games Lost, for example, has the Wizards at 21st in lost value and injury impact to team. In other words, if we imagine the Wizards at full health, we'd really need to imagine other teams at full health as well. And when we do that, the Wizards actually lose ground -- because their injuries were mostly to players who weren't significant contributors.
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