BOYCOTT WIZARDS TICKETS!

[nate33]

I've been a season ticket holder for the past two years, and I decided I wasn't going to renew once I saw that Terd had raise the prices yet again. The plan already felt like a bad deal because I could get a bunch of games for cheaper on NBA ticket exchange, and with higher prices and a low likelihood of making the playoffs, it was a no-brainer not to renew.

I think a lot of STHs are doing the same. The deadline to renew was supposed to be 2 weeks ago, but they emailed me yesterday saying its not too late to renew. I'm all for boycotting so that the greedy owner learns his lesson.

Why'd this guy get banned?

Don't know. Not for activity on the Wizards board.

[FAH1223]

Terrific thread

Haven't had season tickets since the Arenas era. Flirted with it after we drafted Beal but said nah. My motivation? Getting Grunfeld fired.

My boss is from Portland and he's gushing over how Neil Olshey and Terry Stotts have done with a super young roster with players on the cheap aside from Lillard. Plus they lost 4 veteran starters including their best player in the summer!!!

That's the type of GM we need!

[Wizzz_Kidd21]

I've been a season ticket holder for the past two years, and I decided I wasn't going to renew once I saw that Terd had raise the prices yet again. The plan already felt like a bad deal because I could get a bunch of games for cheaper on NBA ticket exchange, and with higher prices and a low likelihood of making the playoffs, it was a no-brainer not to renew.

I think a lot of STHs are doing the same. The deadline to renew was supposed to be 2 weeks ago, but they emailed me yesterday saying its not too late to renew. I'm all for boycotting so that the greedy owner learns his lesson.

[AFM]

Unfortunately a boycott of 10 passionate wizards fans does nothing. This is like Jarrell Eddie boycotting the NBA Combine. There are 100 suckers waiting to take our place.

Do people that go to the games even care what the product on the court is like?

Back when we had season tickets (haven't gone in 3 years, 60 inch HDTV, una cerveza, no pants, tinder, and chinese food is a way better evening than standing in the Gal Pl-Chinatown stop with a bunch of animals clawing to get on to the train) the guy in front of me, who showed up to every single game I attended, would bring 3 newspapers and read them back to back.

I feel like the game is something DC button ups go to so that they don't have to spend 3 hours with their wives, rather than a place true fans go to watch quality basketball.

[fishercob]

Unfortunately a boycott of 10 passionate wizards fans does nothing. This is like Jarrell Eddie boycotting the NBA Combine. There are 100 suckers waiting to take our place.
Do people that go to the games even care what the product on the court is like? Back when we had season tickets (haven't gone in 3 years, 60 inch HDTV, una cerveza, no pants, tinder, and chinese food is a way better evening than standing in the Gal Pl-Chinatown stop with a bunch of animals clawing to get on to the train) the guy in front of me, who showed up to every single game I attended, would bring 3 newspapers and read them back to back.

FWIW, I'm not "boycotting" in the sense that I'm trying to bring about specific change with my activities. I'm just not renewing because the value proposition sucks.

I think you're right that a good portion of the lower bowl will always be sold because law firms and defense contractors tend to not care as much about the value proposition. They buy the tickets and if their clients want them, they take them, and if they don't they give them to employees or just eat them. Their downside is a small write-off.

The other sad truth is that if the Wizards lose a couple thousand ST subscriptions (and I think that's a way high estimate), it won't effect their bottom line much. That new TV revenue will more than offset it.

[fishercob]

Unfortunately a boycott of 10 passionate wizards fans does nothing. This is like Jarrell Eddie boycotting the NBA Combine. There are 100 suckers waiting to take our place.
Do people that go to the games even care what the product on the court is like? Back when we had season tickets (haven't gone in 3 years, 60 inch HDTV, una cerveza, no pants, tinder, and chinese food is a way better evening than standing in the Gal Pl-Chinatown stop with a bunch of animals clawing to get on to the train) the guy in front of me, who showed up to every single game I attended, would bring 3 newspapers and read them back to back.

FWIW, I'm not "boycotting" in the sense that I'm trying to bring about specific change with my activities. I'm just not renewing because the value proposition sucks.

I think you're right that a good portion of the lower bowl will always be sold because law firms and defense contractors tend to not care as much about the value proposition. They buy the tickets and if their clients want them, they take them, and if they don't they give them to employees or just eat them. Their downside is a small write-off.

The other sad truth is that if the Wizards lose a couple thousand ST subscriptions (and I think that's a way high estimate), it won't effect their bottom line much. That new TV revenue will more than offset it.

[montestewart]

Unfortunately a boycott of 10 passionate wizards fans does nothing. This is like Jarrell Eddie boycotting the NBA Combine. There are 100 suckers waiting to take our place.

Do people that go to the games even care what the product on the court is like?

Back when we had season tickets (haven't gone in 3 years, 60 inch HDTV, una cerveza, no pants, tinder, and chinese food is a way better evening than standing in the Gal Pl-Chinatown stop with a bunch of animals clawing to get on to the train) the guy in front of me, who showed up to every single game I attended, would bring 3 newspapers and read them back to back.

I feel like the game is something DC button ups go to so that they don't have to spend 3 hours with their wives, rather than a place true fans go to watch quality basketball.

Maybe not, but you gotta start somewhere, and in the meantime, we're all thousands of dollars ahead. Let the fans of other teams, lobbyists, law firms etc. line that chiseler's pockets. When I watch the Wizards, I can listen to the soundtrack from the Music Man, and my cats dance better than that old guy. Much better experience, and free.

[fishercob]

Unfortunately a boycott of 10 passionate wizards fans does nothing. This is like Jarrell Eddie boycotting the NBA Combine. There are 100 suckers waiting to take our place.
Do people that go to the games even care what the product on the court is like? Back when we had season tickets (haven't gone in 3 years, 60 inch HDTV, una cerveza, no pants, tinder, and chinese food is a way better evening than standing in the Gal Pl-Chinatown stop with a bunch of animals clawing to get on to the train) the guy in front of me, who showed up to every single game I attended, would bring 3 newspapers and read them back to back.

FWIW, I'm not "boycotting" in the sense that I'm trying to bring about specific change with my activities. I'm just not renewing because the value proposition sucks.

I think you're right that a good portion of the lower bowl will always be sold because law firms and defense contractors tend to not care as much about the value proposition. They buy the tickets and if their clients want them, they take them, and if they don't they give them to employees or just eat them. Their downside is a small write-off.

The other sad truth is that if the Wizards lose a couple thousand ST subscriptions (and I think that's a way high estimate), it won't effect their bottom line much. That new TV revenue will more than offset it.

[AFM]

What we need to do is hire an escort to bang Ted and record his racist post coitus pillow talk, then leak it to TMZ. Worked for the Clippers.
Milellie, what's your rate?

[montestewart]

You're once, twice, three times a Fish, and I love you...

[montestewart]

What we need to do is hire an escort to bang Ted and record his racist post coitus pillow talk, then leak it to TMZ. Worked for the Clippers.
Milellie, what's your rate?

If you have to ask you can't afford him.

[pineappleheadindc]

I've been a season ticket holder for the past two years, and I decided I wasn't going to renew once I saw that Terd had raise the prices yet again. The plan already felt like a bad deal because I could get a bunch of games for cheaper on NBA ticket exchange, and with higher prices and a low likelihood of making the playoffs, it was a no-brainer not to renew.

I think a lot of STHs are doing the same. The deadline to renew was supposed to be 2 weeks ago, but they emailed me yesterday saying its not too late to renew. I'm all for boycotting so that the greedy owner learns his lesson.

Why'd this guy get banned?

EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING BACKSEAT MOD. Enough already.

If you HAVE to know, he was banned month ago on another board. He emailed admins saying he understood what he did wrong, got reinstated. The system just hasn't updated his status but it's outdated. He's currently a member in good standing.

We don't ban people here much. AGAIN, 3 people in 10+ years. So everyone just chill about modding.

[Illuminaire]

Words and stuff

There are two stars available this summer. Whiteside and Al Horford. Kevin Durant is a pipe dream - amazing if it happens, but if you're counting on that I have a bridge to sell you.

There are zero young stars at the positions the Wizards need the most (PF and SG).

And there will be more competition for free agents than the NBA has ever seen before in it's entire history. But yeah, aside from that, great plan.

[montestewart]

I've been a season ticket holder for the past two years, and I decided I wasn't going to renew once I saw that Terd had raise the prices yet again. The plan already felt like a bad deal because I could get a bunch of games for cheaper on NBA ticket exchange, and with higher prices and a low likelihood of making the playoffs, it was a no-brainer not to renew.

I think a lot of STHs are doing the same. The deadline to renew was supposed to be 2 weeks ago, but they emailed me yesterday saying its not too late to renew. I'm all for boycotting so that the greedy owner learns his lesson.

Why'd this guy get banned?

EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING BACKSEAT MOD. Enough already.

If you HAVE to know, he was banned month ago on another board. He emailed admins saying he understood what he did wrong, got reinstated. The system just hasn't updated his status but it's outdated. He's currently a member in good standing.

We don't ban people here much. AGAIN, 3 people in 10+ years. So everyone just chill about modding.

I think what Pine is trying to say is you're more likely to be assaulted by a Looney Tunes dwarf gangster disguised as a baby climbing out of a falling piano than to get banned here. Or words to that effect.

[JWizmentality]

I've been a season ticket holder for the past two years, and I decided I wasn't going to renew once I saw that Terd had raise the prices yet again. The plan already felt like a bad deal because I could get a bunch of games for cheaper on NBA ticket exchange, and with higher prices and a low likelihood of making the playoffs, it was a no-brainer not to renew.

I think a lot of STHs are doing the same. The deadline to renew was supposed to be 2 weeks ago, but they emailed me yesterday saying its not too late to renew. I'm all for boycotting so that the greedy owner learns his lesson.

Why'd this guy get banned?

EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING BACKSEAT MOD. Enough already.

If you HAVE to know, he was banned month ago on another board. He emailed admins saying he understood what he did wrong, got reinstated. The system just hasn't updated his status but it's outdated. He's currently a member in good standing.

We don't ban people here much. AGAIN, 3 people in 10+ years. So everyone just chill about modding.

Why so serious bruh?

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[dobrojim]

I cut back from 2 to one seat. Maybe it should have been the full monty.

I took a sign to the game last night

GM - EG
13 Years
.421 winning %
24th/30
Peak wins 46

I got a fair amount of positive feedback on it from fellow fans.
No one gave me negative feedback.
I was somewhat disappointed that the print media guys who sit right below
me seemed completely uninterested when I walked down and tried to get them
to look at the sign. My fellow fans were also impressed by the list posted in another
thread of the draft snafus and SNAFU is exactly the right acronym. Situation Normal,
All Effed Up.

The price increase was ill advised particularly when you consider that for most of
the season when I tried to get friends to go, few were interested. Trying to sell
a decent seat for my cost on the secondary markets revealed that in actuality,
one could often buy a better seat than mine for less money than I had paid when
I should be getting a volume discount for being a STH.

My girls are away in college and don't go with me anymore except for a very small
number of games when they are home on school breaks. My expense from this year
to next will drop by nearly $2000.

I also feel like a personal letter to Ted is in order. EG's gotta go.

[DCZards]

I renewed my full season tickets about a week ago with the understanding that I can roll that back to a 15-20 game package if I choose. I wanted to see what happens this offseason before giving up my great seats. I know my wife and I will want to go to at least 10-15 games...even if the team stinks. Been doing it for to long to stop now.

[milellie111]

I believe this is terrible timing considering the money we have to spend in the summer and expiring contracts to land a star player that would most likely have this team either advancing deep into the playoffs next season or in the ECF.

Majority of season ticket holders aren't giving up that opportunity and missing out on next seasons potential rewards.

Then someone a lot more competent than EG should be making the decisions.

And only the fact that the cap is going up at a record percentage and amount gives them the possibility of improving next season - so don't be giving EG credit for that.

All aboard the Boycott Train! Woot woot! (Choo choo?)

How do you define competency? One guys view of a competent GM may not be the same as another guys. A team may decide to fire a coach. The players loved this coach, played hard for him and fans were satisfied with the job he was doing. However, management felt that he wasn't competent enough. Usually there's ego involved. Who's right and who's wrong?

In recent years, Grunfeld has not done anything disastrous to the Wizards franchise that would warrant dismissal as some here have alluded. The team is in good shape going into next season with a promising summer approaching. Many of the things that fans have cried for, Grunfeld has addressed within the past 2 seasons. For example:

1. A capable backup pg to Wall that will maintain pace while he gets a breather = Sessions one of the best backup pgs in the league.

2. A young power forward who can stretch the floor with Wall = Morris (last 10 games avg 15ppg)

3. Patience with signing Beal to a max contract = Done

I just don't see the purpose of a boycott. It doesn't hurt Ted Leonsis or Ernie Grunfeld. Ted makes revenue regardless. Grunfelds salary next year is already guaranteed. Business will continue as usual as they plan for this summer and next season. The only people negatively affected from the pessimism and decreased support are the players.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Getting Durant was a fine goal. But, they fundamentally misread the salary landscape even though Leonsis was part of the committee that negotiated the new TV deal. The Wizards went all-in on having tons of cap space at precisely the time when LOTS of teams would have cap space. Meaning: the Wizards can't compete by offering more money to a star free agent -- they're limited to the exact same offer a dozen other teams can make. Which means they're competing on non-financial factors like quality of the team, the area, etc.

Meanwhile, the Wizards were well-stocked with player acquisition resources. They chose to spend those resources on patching together the roster instead of pursuing good young players -- a pif once put it: guys with a past, not a future.

And so, the Wizards will try to recruit a star free agent to a team that's going to miss the playoffs. Maybe they can still sell the "up and coming" team narrative, though it surely would have been easier sale if the team was in the post-season. They'll peddle the opportunity to play with Wall, Beal, Porter and Gortat. One bright side with Wall and Beal is that their reputations continue to exceed their level of play.

There will be plenty of possibilities for improving the team. I have zero faith in Grunfeld's ability to maximize those opportunities, however.

[TheSecretWeapon]

As for season tix -- I cancelled mine several years ago.