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Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:06 pm
by keynote
Tell me more about Andrew Nicholson.
EDIT: 26 years old. Listed at 6'9" 250 lbs.
per-36:
16.8 pts, 8.8 rbs, 1.1 assists, 36% 3FG.
106 ORtg, 107 DRtg.
7'4" wingspan. 8'11" standing reach. 30.5 max vertical in 2012.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:10 pm
by yeti_
He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:12 pm
by MikeTheKid
yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Great post, I was wondering why his PT just disappeared with ORL
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:14 pm
by keynote
yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Good scouting report, thanks.
Is Nicholson's lack of foot speed due innate, or is he also a little out of shape? As a general rule, I haven't been impressed with the Wizards' strength coaches/fitness staff, in that I haven't seen too many major success stories (fit guys stayed fit, less fit guys stayed less fit, skinny guys stay skinny, etc.). But Garrett Temple made a significant leap in quickness and explosiveness over the past two years -- and he's a veteran. So, maybe there's some sliver of hope for Nicholson.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:15 pm
by Halcyon
Seems like a decent signing.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:19 pm
by keynote
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Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:23 pm
by yeti_
keynote wrote:yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Good scouting report, thanks.
Is Nicholson's lack of foot speed due innate, or is he also a little out of shape? As a general rule, I haven't been impressed with the Wizards' strength coaches/fitness staff, in that I haven't seen too many major success stories (fit guys stayed fit, less fit guys stayed less fit, skinny guys stay skinny, etc.). But Garrett Temple made a significant leap in quickness and explosiveness over the past two years -- and he's a veteran. So, maybe there's some sliver of hope for Nicholson.
I wouldn't say he's out of shape, he's just naturally slow. He's not very strong either which is why he isn't a good rebounder or defender. You guys will be amazed by his post moves though. If he can shoot the 3 reliably he will be great with the John Wall pick n pop and I'm sure he'll have at least one game against the Magic where he'll score 20+ and kill us.
That said its a fine contract and I wish him luck.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:25 pm
by IllMagic04
Magic fan here. Andrew can play. Skiles just didn't play him cause he gives up so much defensively. With more playing time he can be a force off the bench to just get buckets. He can step out and shoot the 3 and his post game has been fantastic since he was a rookie. I had high hopes for him but he was never able to figure it out defensively. If you can accept his defensive woes and just let him come in off the bench and gets buckets you will enjoy him.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:28 pm
by AddiFB
keynote wrote:yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Good scouting report, thanks.
Is Nicholson's lack of foot speed due innate, or is he also a little out of shape? As a general rule, I haven't been impressed with the Wizards' strength coaches/fitness staff, in that I haven't seen too many major success stories (fit guys stayed fit, less fit guys stayed less fit, skinny guys stay skinny, etc.). But Garrett Temple made a significant leap in quickness and explosiveness over the past two years -- and he's a veteran. So, maybe there's some sliver of hope for Nicholson.
He got a bit stronger, toned during his years here. But he has awkward legs/feet. His feet are huge and when he jogs/runs his foot movement is awkward. Hard to describe, but he's kind of hunched down, instead of straight back running and his knees kind of pointing inwards. I think it's just how he's built.
But his post-game is really good. He's got all kinds of moves and often spins and hooks for an easy bucket and sometimes turns around for a dunk. His footwork is really good. When he pump-fakes on the 3 to drive to the basket, that's your signal to go to the kitchen, pop some popcorn, pet the cat and check if there's something to drink in the fridge. When you return, it should be the perfect timing to see him finish the drive with a ferocious dunk. He's kinda slow.
But in short, many of us wanted him utilized more but he was always buried on the bench. BUT... he was always ready when his name was called and never whined over lack of playing time. He's a trooper and I respect him.
Treat him well, Washington!
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:29 pm
by Ed Wood
Oh, oh dear, no good, yes those are very bad things, quite the rap sheet. *Turns pencil around and starts to erase Markieff Morris' name in the starting rotation*
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:38 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
Seems like a good price. Now the Wizards need a backup PG, and SG who can score off the bench. Overall a very uneventful off season for the Wizards
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:38 pm
by DCZards
yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Interesting scouting report. Sounds a lot like a guy the Zards had a couple of years ago--Kevin Seraphin. Other than being able to make the 3.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:40 pm
by Melvinlocker
He should be a good fit for you guys off the bench next to Mahinmi. His post game is a joy to watch. He wasn't a great fit with us because Vucevic was slow footed. If he has a consistent and defined role on your team as an off the bench scorer, then he will thrive with you guys.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:42 pm
by Melvinlocker
DCZards wrote:yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Interesting scouting report. Sounds a lot like a guy the Zards had a couple of years ago--Kevin Seraphin. Other than being able to make the 3.
He's isn't as thick bodied as Seraphin, but he will make up for it with his shooting ability and super post game. He doesn't block shots either.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:43 pm
by DCZards
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Seems like a good price. Now the Wizards need a backup PG, and SG who can score off the bench. Overall a very uneventful off season for the Wizards
"Uneventful" can be a good thing, especially once the top free agents (KD and Horford) were off the board I'm glad that the Zards didn't go out and pay the crazy money to Evan Turner and Ryan Anderson. I'd still like them to make a bid for Mo Harkless though.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:43 pm
by closg00
This appears to be EG's first semi-decent move for a back-up PF, he could bang in the post in the half-court game.
I wish we had Robert Carter on our SL team and gave him a shot, but after the Beal & Mahinmi signings, you have to be thankful for the little things. I hope the 4th year is a team-option, the cost seems about right.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:54 pm
by Orlwillbeback
You will love this guy. Not totally for basketball reasons, but you love him regardless lol.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:55 pm
by Orlwillbeback
DCZards wrote:yeti_ wrote:He's one of the slowest players I have ever seen.
Plays zero defense, doesn't ever pass and doesn't really try for rebounds.
He has an awesome post game (aka the torture chamber) and can hit the 3 at a decent rate.
He loves to pump fake at the 3 and slowly drive to the hoop.
Good enough to be on an NBA team but I never see him as a true rotational player, just good big depth.
Interesting scouting report. Sounds a lot like a guy the Zards had a couple of years ago--Kevin Seraphin. Other than being able to make the 3.
He is not really a banger, huge body like Seraphin but there are times when looks like Hakeem in the post.
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 3:59 pm
by the_hobo
He'll break out and put up 20/10 games now that he's off my Magic. He got no respect with us
Re: Andrew Nicholson, 4-yr $26M
Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:10 pm
by nuposse04
His per 36 stats were nice. I think he could be fine offensively... question now according to the magic fans is what specifically is his issue on defense... Just being slow or awareness? One of those you can work with... the other....not so much...