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Jason Smith, 3 yr/$16M deal 

Post#1 » by keynote » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:29 pm

Welcome to the Wizards, Jason Smith.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/750470918389002240[/tweet]

Based on a quick glance at Basketball-Reference, he's kind of a stretch 4/5.

EDIT: that might be 3 years, $5M+ *per*.

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EDIT: and here's JMichael's delayed retraction:

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Re: Jason Smith, 3 yr deal 

Post#2 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:38 pm

Awful reporting by J. Michael, getting out scooped like that. He had it at 3 yrs/$5 million. And that is a ton of $ being spent on centers.
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Post#3 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:39 pm

Decent signing from wiz.
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Post#4 » by keynote » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:39 pm

FWIW, NBAdraft.net compared him to Brian Cook. Based on a few YouTube highlights, he's got a decent midrange jumper, and can knock down the occasional three. I don't mind him as an emergency big, although I'd rather have spent that money on a 3-D swingman or a utility swingman/combo guard to replace Temple.
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Re: Jason Smith, 3 yr deal 

Post#5 » by keynote » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:44 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Awful reporting by J. Michael, getting out scooped like that. He had it at 3 yrs/$5 million.

Yeah, I expect the retraction/correction tweet to come out any minute now. :roll:
And that is a ton of $ being spent on centers.

+1 -- although at least he fills a very different role than Mahinmi. I suppose this is the price of a decent emergency/niche big for non-super teams.

I will say this: after going all in on SFs last year (at the expense of front court depth), Egg's pendulum has swung entirely in the other direction. We'll now have Gortat, Morris, Mahinmi, Nicholson, and Smith in the front court.
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Post#6 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:45 pm

You guys got another good one. Nicholson and Smith are going to kill ORL I can already see it... :banghead:

For those who unaware of Jason Smith the guys automatic from midrange... He carried Orlando's offense many many times. I guarantee you he will always BRING IT when he's on the court.

If you have a sec go check out his block on Middleton from last season(I would post it but idk how to embed :lol:)

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Post#7 » by keynote » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:51 pm

Tron Carter- wrote:You guys got another good one. Nicholson and Smith are going to kill ORL I can already see it... :banghead:

For those who unaware of Jason Smith the guys automatic from midrange... He carried Orlando's offense many many times. I guarantee you he will always BRING IT when he's on the court.

If you have a sec go check out his block on Middleton from last season(I would post it but idk how to embed :lol:)

Its amazing.


Thanks for the insight. Nicholson's the younger player and, presumably, would have more upside. They both averaged ~15 pg for the Magic last year. Which of the two was the more effective player, based on your eye test?
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Post#8 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:52 pm

I don't get the signing

He's our backup PF?
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Post#9 » by Dat2U » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:57 pm

Another one of Ernie's "we've had our eye on him for a while" types. They almost drafted him coming out of college. Fits the Darius Songalia, Kris Humphries profiles but softer... He's more mid-range than anything. I don't like the signing because he doesn't defend nor does he adequately stretch the floor, a bit of throw back big, Ernie has a hard on for these types... maybe the third time is the charm or more likely Ernie doesn't learn and commits the same blunder over and over again.

The money could have been better spent elsewhere but I guess I sound like a broken record now.
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Post#10 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:02 am

keynote wrote:
Tron Carter- wrote:You guys got another good one. Nicholson and Smith are going to kill ORL I can already see it... :banghead:

For those who unaware of Jason Smith the guys automatic from midrange... He carried Orlando's offense many many times. I guarantee you he will always BRING IT when he's on the court.

If you have a sec go check out his block on Middleton from last season(I would post it but idk how to embed :lol:)

Its amazing.


Thanks for the insight. Nicholson's the younger player and, presumably, would have more upside. They both averaged ~15 pg for the Magic last year. Which of the two was the more effective player, based on your eye test?


Between the two Smith was the consistent vet that Skiles relied on more. Nicholson for Orlando was a weird situation because he could never consistently stay in our rotation.(Pretty much since the day we drafted him).

With that being said I can assure you Nicholson showed promise in stretches last season. He was almost unstoppable at times on offense. You will appreciate both of them coming off your bench.
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Post#12 » by 80sballboy » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:05 am

Dat2U wrote:Another one of Ernie's "we've had our eye on him for a while" types. They almost drafted him coming out of college. Fits the Darius Songalia, Kris Humphries profiles but softer... He's more mid-range than anything. I don't like the signing because he doesn't defend nor does he adequately stretch the floor, a bit of throw back big, Ernie has a hard on for these types... maybe the third time is the charm or more likely Ernie doesn't learn and commits the same blunder over and over again.

The money could have been better spent elsewhere but I guess I sound like a broken record now.


Yeah, I might be ok with it since he's our 3rd center and 3rd power forward, but he is incredibly soft. I'd rather have a younger, cheaper big who you can develop and spend the money on a decent wing. But I guess with Gerald Henderson gone, there's literally nothing left that we can afford.
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Post#13 » by sfam » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:06 am

Tron Carter- wrote:You guys got another good one. Nicholson and Smith are going to kill ORL I can already see it... :banghead:

So that's the strategy: find a way to beat Orlando! Strike one for Grunfeld. One team down...
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Jason Smith, 3 yr/$16M deal 

Post#14 » by J-Ves » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:09 am

I don't hate this move.

Edit. Just went to bbal reference to check his stats. I now hate this move.

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Post#15 » by keynote » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:13 am

FAH1223 wrote:I don't get the signing

He's our backup PF?


At this point, we have two pure Cs, one PF/C, and two PFs who can play small-ball C. Meanwhile, we're currently relying on a rookie and a second-year project to backup injury-prone Beal. :-?
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Post#16 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:19 am

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FAH1223 wrote:I don't get the signing

He's our backup PF?


At this point, we have two pure Cs, one PF/C, and two PFs who can play small-ball C. Meanwhile, we're currently relying on a rookie and a second-year project to backup injury-prone Beal. :-?


Typical Ernie Grunfail roster imbalance
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Post#17 » by Wizardspride » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:21 am

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FAH1223 wrote:I don't get the signing

He's our backup PF?


At this point, we have two pure Cs, one PF/C, and two PFs who can play small-ball C. Meanwhile, we're currently relying on a rookie and a second-year project to backup injury-prone Beal. :-?

I expect Alan Anderson to be signed soon.
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Post#18 » by keynote » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:26 am

Dat2U wrote:Fits the Darius Songalia, Kris Humphries profiles but softer... He's more mid-range than anything.


FWIW:

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Post#19 » by verbal8 » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:27 am

Dat2U wrote:Another one of Ernie's "we've had our eye on him for a while" types. They almost drafted him coming out of college. Fits the Darius Songalia, Kris Humphries profiles but softer... He's more mid-range than anything. I don't like the signing because he doesn't defend nor does he adequately stretch the floor, a bit of throw back big, Ernie has a hard on for these types... maybe the third time is the charm or more likely Ernie doesn't learn and commits the same blunder over and over again.

The money could have been better spent elsewhere but I guess I sound like a broken record now.


I agree a very mediocre move. He is tall and can shoot(inside 3), but that is about it. Not ancient, but likely to decline at least slightly.
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Post#20 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jul 6, 2016 12:33 am

I hope we go back to the lottery this year
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