Patience. Management Was Right.

[milellie111]

After a slow start to the season, mass panic throughout the fanbase, and questions surrounding managements roster and coaching decisions, the Wizards are playing the best ball we've seen in awhile. Wall and Beal are both at all star level. Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned. This will be an exciting season. The way that the Wizards are built and the way they have been playing shows they are one of the better teams in the East even if the current record doesn't quite reflect that.

[montestewart]

This is already being discussed in another thread found here. Maybe should merge?

[AFM]

Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned.

Do you mean they are saying nice things about their teammates? Or that they are playing for free.

[milellie111]

Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned.

Do you mean they are saying nice things about their teammates? Or that they are playing for free.

The plan was always for Wall and Beal to develop as allstars and become the face of the franchise. Which is why they were drafted where they were. The focus on the rest of the roster were complimentary reliable role players who would contribute alongside Wall and Beal. This formula works. Both are playing at a high level which is neccessary for the team to succeed.

[JWizmentality]

Lol. Never stop being you my friend. Shtick or not.

[montestewart]

Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned.

Do you mean they are saying nice things about their teammates? Or that they are playing for free.

The plan was always for Wall and Beal to develop as allstars and become the face of the franchise. Which is why they were drafted where they were. The focus on the rest of the roster were complimentary reliable role players who would contribute alongside Wall and Beal. This formula works. Both are playing at a high level which is neccessary for the team to succeed.

So the key was to surround Wall and Beal with players who compliment them, similar to the way Grunfeld compliments Leonsis. "Nice tie, Ted!" becomes "Nice drive, John!" Supporting role players for life!

[AFM]

Do you mean they are saying nice things about their teammates? Or that they are playing for free.

The plan was always for Wall and Beal to develop as allstars and become the face of the franchise. Which is why they were drafted where they were. The focus on the rest of the roster were complimentary reliable role players who would contribute alongside Wall and Beal. This formula works. Both are playing at a high level which is neccessary for the team to succeed.

So the key was to surround Wall and Beal with players who compliment them, similar to the way Grunfeld compliments Leonsis. "Nice tie, Ted!" becomes "Nice drive, John!" Supporting role players for life!

You need roll players, guys that know they're pick and role...elite explosive bone crunching big men with alpha male spirit and can stop on a dime with no knee cartilege

[leswizards]

After a slow start to the season, mass panic throughout the fanbase, and questions surrounding managements roster and coaching decisions, the Wizards are playing the best ball we've seen in awhile. Wall and Beal are both at all star level. Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned. This will be an exciting season. The way that the Wizards are built and the way they have been playing shows they are one of the better teams in the East even if the current record doesn't quite reflect that.

Did you write that yourself, or did you plagiarize it from hands?

[tontoz]

Morris and all the players they brought in last summer have been bad/awful. Capped out and mediocre after 7 years of rebuilding.

[BigA]

The appearance of this thread is a lagging indicator that the team is doing better, so in that sense it's good to see.

Hopefully we don't repeat last year's pattern, in which milellie111 would start a thread shilling for Ernie and Ted, and a 5 game losing streak would immediately follow.

538 now has the Wizards with a 51% chance of making the playoffs. After the Cavs and Raptors the next 10 teams in the EC are pretty closely bunched within a few games. On the one hand, this has allowed the Wizards to overcome the slow start pretty easily and get back in the playoff mix. On the other hand, unless they can sustain a run that gets them well over .500 over the next couple months, they are going to remain vulnerable to injury and the road-heavy schedule in March-April.

[milellie111]

Morris and all the players they brought in last summer have been bad/awful. Capped out and mediocre after 7 years of rebuilding.

Morris averages 13 ppg and 6 rpg. He is producing according to his contract and what he was brought in to do. He was never acquired be a focal point in the offense.

Gortat is averaging a double double on the season at 11.5 ppg and 11.8 rpg.

Porter 13.4 ppg and 7 rpg.

Wall at all star numbers 23.7 ppg and 9.7 apg.

Beal playing at all star level at 22.7 ppg.

And Oubre is still developing and averages more than Bobby Portis.

[tontoz]

Morris and all the players they brought in last summer have been bad/awful. Capped out and mediocre after 7 years of rebuilding.

Morris averages 13 ppg and 6 rpg. He is producing according to his contract and what he was brought in to do. He was never acquired be a focal point in the offense.

Gortat is averaging a double double on the season at 11.5 ppg and 11.8 rpg.

Porter 13.4 ppg and 7 rpg.

Wall at all star numbers 23.7 ppg and 9.7 apg.

Beal playing at all star level at 22.7 ppg.

And Oubre is still developing and averages more than Bobby Portis.

Morris has a TS of 50% which ranks 56th among 4s yet he takes more shots than everyone except Beal and Wall.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pf/sort/trueShootingPct/page/2

His rebounding rate ranks 52nd among 4s. He shoots poorly and doesn't rebound yet we gave up a 1st for him.

Wall,Beal and Porter were all picked in the top 3 and were consensus picks. EG has had a lot of assets outside the top 3 picks that he has completely wasted. That is why we are so far behind the Raps, who have no top 3 picks on their roster.

The Raps are about to have their 4th straight season winning over 46 games, something EG hasn't done in 14 years.

I never made a big deal about Portis but his per 36 numbers of 12/10 with an ORTG of 106 aren't too shabby.

EG's acquisitions last summer have been a disaster so far, and very expensive. Here we are at .500 even though Beal, Wall, Porter are having career years. Vintage EG. We have no capspace either.

[leswizards]

In his list of praise for players, millie didn't mention one player acquired last summer. I assume his silence on players acquired last summer acknowledges the point that tontoz was making.

[montestewart]

We always knew the post-MJ rebuild was going to take 12-14 years, We've dealt with that before, and that's been clearly established. Phase one was the first phase, where you first rebuild, because first you learn to win, then you learn to play, then you learn to believe, then you learn to be a team, then you win, then you learn to learn, and that establishes a team culture, and then you decide which players to plug into that culture, but if players don't fit into that culture, because there are a lot of different types of sockets around the world, and I've been to foreign countries where I couldn't plug in my Walkman charger, it creates a gaping wound, and instead of harvesting supple contender flesh, the team's path to victory develops a thick scab beneath which the seeds of championship are sown but they have to contend with the malingering counterculture. But in order for a fruitful bounty of victory to thrive, something has to be sacrificed, so Pollin died first. We knew that was going to happen, so no need to rehatch that now. This produced phase two of the rebuild, where the deep scab was ripped off down to the bone, and a new seed was planted, and some dirt had to be on that seed for it to grow, and that seed was named Wall and the pussy infection of Pollin and Unseld was subjectivized in much the same way as clostridium difficile is defeated by a transplant of foreign feces into the afflicted colon. And the dead flesh had to come off, and peel rhymes with Beal, so we knew that had to happen first, but that wasn't the end of it. Each new scab layer is treated with the increasingly optimistic creamy balm of therapeutic young flesh, coupled with the more experienced, leathery veneer of long lived coach on the floor with varying types of plugs with adapters, and this relationship is thoroughly Play tonic for a winning recipe with all the ingredients to learn to first win, then you play good. Sort of like yoga in a toga. And now that the five fingers extend from the palm (lubricated with palm oil) is at hand, the plate runneth over, to quote the Bible. That meal is being served right now, with ample servings of crow. Eat hearty my friends, this drink from the cup of victory. Don't spill a crumb. The plan is working. As I've said. Numerous times. In other threads.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

We always knew the post-MJ rebuild was going to take 12-14 years, We've dealt with that before, and that's been clearly established. Phase one was the first phase, where you first rebuild, because first you learn to win, then you learn to play, then you learn to believe, then you learn to be a team, then you win, then you learn to learn, and that establishes a team culture, and then you decide which players to plug into that culture, but if players don't fit into that culture, because there are a lot of different types of sockets around the world, and I've been to foreign countries where I couldn't plug in my Walkman charger, it creates a gaping wound, and instead of harvesting supple contender flesh, the team's path to victory develops a thick scab beneath which the seeds of championship are sown but they have to contend with the malingering counterculture. But in order for a fruitful bounty of victory to thrive, something has to be sacrificed, so Pollin died first. We knew that was going to happen, so no need to rehatch that now. This produced phase two of the rebuild, where the deep scab was ripped off down to the bone, and a new seed was planted, and some dirt had to be on that seed for it to grow, and that seed was named Wall and the pussy infection of Pollin and Unseld was subjectivized in much the same way as clostridium difficile is defeated by a transplant of foreign feces into the afflicted colon. And the dead flesh had to come off, and peel rhymes with Beal, so we knew that had to happen first, but that wasn't the end of it. Each new scab layer is treated with the increasingly optimistic creamy balm of therapeutic young flesh, coupled with the more experienced, leathery veneer of long lived coach on the floor with varying types of plugs with adapters, and this relationship is thoroughly Play tonic for a winning recipe with all the ingredients to learn to first win, then you play good. Sort of like yoga in a toga. And now that the five fingers extend from the palm (lubricated with palm oil) is at hand, the plate runneth over, to quote the Bible. That meal is being served right now, with ample servings of crow. Eat hearty my friends, this drink from the cup of victory. Don't spill a crumb. The plan is working. As I've said. Numerous times. In other threads.

HOF.

Excellent, insightful analysis.

But seriously Millie. What is your take on Antonio Daniel's knee?

[Kanyewest]

Morris and all the players they brought in last summer have been bad/awful. Capped out and mediocre after 7 years of rebuilding.

Morris averages 13 ppg and 6 rpg. He is producing according to his contract and what he was brought in to do. He was never acquired be a focal point in the offense.

Gortat is averaging a double double on the season at 11.5 ppg and 11.8 rpg.

Porter 13.4 ppg and 7 rpg.

Wall at all star numbers 23.7 ppg and 9.7 apg.

Beal playing at all star level at 22.7 ppg.

And Oubre is still developing and averages more than Bobby Portis.

Morris has a TS of 50% which ranks 56th among 4s yet he takes more shots than everyone except Beal and Wall.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pf/sort/trueShootingPct/page/2

His rebounding rate ranks 52nd among 4s. He shoots poorly and doesn't rebound yet we gave up a 1st for him.

Wall,Beal and Porter were all picked in the top 3 and were consensus picks. EG has had a lot of assets outside the top 3 picks that he has completely wasted. That is why we are so far behind the Raps, who have no top 3 picks on their roster.

The Raps are about to have their 4th straight season winning over 46 games, something EG hasn't done in 14 years.

I never made a big deal about Portis but his per 36 numbers of 12/10 with an ORTG of 106 aren't too shabby.

EG's acquisitions last summer have been a disaster so far, and very expensive. Here we are at .500 even though Beal, Wall, Porter are having career years. Vintage EG. We have no capspace either.

Agree that Morris has not been worth it yet

Wall/Beal were certainly consensus picks. I think EG gets marginally more credit with Porter since Noel was the consensus pick.

Yes, Masai is a better GM than EG aside from that McGee/Nene trade.

[payitforward]

Do you mean they are saying nice things about their teammates? Or that they are playing for free.

The plan was always for Wall and Beal to develop as allstars and become the face of the franchise. Which is why they were drafted where they were. The focus on the rest of the roster were complimentary reliable role players who would contribute alongside Wall and Beal. This formula works. Both are playing at a high level which is neccessary for the team to succeed.

So the key was to surround Wall and Beal with players who compliment them, similar to the way Grunfeld compliments Leonsis. "Nice tie, Ted!" becomes "Nice drive, John!" Supporting role players for life!

Hey Millie, you idiot -- look up the difference between "compl i mentary" and "compl e mentary."

Not to mention that you can't "plan" for guys "to develop as allstars." And, as to "why they were drafted where they were", Porter was drafted in the same spot as Beal.

[daSwami]

Wall and Beal are both at all star level. Morris, Oubre, Thornton, Porter and Gortat are complimentary as planned.

I believe you mean complementary not complimentary, unless your dad isn't planning to pay them.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Dang it Milliiee. Why won't you answer the question? What is your take on AD'sK?

[closg00]

Hands/Millie has a difficult job, celebrating mediocrity and bad management decisions.


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