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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1421 » by Ruzious » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:50 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:Dudes 25 and the skins need talent. Period.
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Only if he can play TE


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I guess. It’s also a question of resource allocation.

You can only have so many players at each position and you need some backups to be quality special teams contributors.

You only have 53 roster spots and have to be under the salary cap.

A team with, say, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Jeremy Sprinkle is not better than a team with Mahomes, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Zach Ertz and Deshazor Everette, even though the latter has more talent.

Back in the precap, unlimited IR, large roster days, the Skins under Cooke, Beathard and Gibbs went three or four deep with starters every where.

Agreed - especially since the Skins already have Kerrigan and Orchard projected to be the backup DE's. Not to mention that Ngakoue is under-sized to be a 43 DE. Honestly, I think it makes sense to trade Kerrigan rather than bench him. I don't think he's fast enough to play OLBer in the 43.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1422 » by LyricalRico » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:12 pm

ESPN's pick for Skins vet most likely to be cut or traded?

Running back Adrian Peterson

Washington's backfield is a crowded mess, with Peterson joined by Derrius Guice, Bryce Love, Peyton Barber and third-round pick Antonio Gibson. The rookie is the only lock to make the active roster, but I don't really see any reason for a rebuilding Washington team to stick with the 35-year-old Peterson.

Ownership seemed to keep Peterson on the roster last season, and he came in handy after Guice went down with an injury in Week 1, but new coach Ron Rivera should have enough personnel power to make tough decisions. Peterson could earn a reprieve if one of the backs ahead of him gets hurt, but the Barber signing seemed to point to Peterson's eventual release.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29101985/32-nfl-players-most-likely-cut-traded-2020-nfl-draft#WSH

Didn't they just resign him? Of course, if that was before the Rivera hire all bets would be off. But Guice can't stay healthy and they could always use a WR spot on Gibson. It'll be interesting to see how it works out...assuming there's a season that is.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1423 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:28 am

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Wizardspride wrote:From what I've read they like the corners we have.


Fuller slot & Darby/Moreau outside ... Moreland backing them up

I’m concerned with Darby staying healthy and would love another CB to develop not necessarily start.

Right now it’s Greg Stroman, Danny Johnson & Simeon Thomas ... small, small & idk lol 8-)

Gleaning comments that Fuller's made, he'd rather play outside, and he expects to. I think they like Moreland inside. And Darby gives them their first pure speed CB in a long time. I think Moreau's going to have to prove a lot to get in the starting lineup. To me, Moreland's gotta play a lot this season because of his nose for the ball. I think Danny Johnson's the next best they have behind those guys. He's small, but he still hits hard, and he's fast.


If Fuller & Darby are outside then I agree with you Moreland plays the slot. Moreau looked a lot better outside then in the slot. I liked Johnson too, but I’m wondering if he lasts the whole season without an injury.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1424 » by gambitx777 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:05 am

I think it comes down to, how much does he coast. Can you move him to another position of need and have him be effective, or can you fit him in at his natural position and have him be better than what you have.
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gambitx777 wrote:Dudes 25 and the skins need talent. Period.

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I guess. It’s also a question of resource allocation.

You can only have so many players at each position and you need some backups to be quality special teams contributors.

You only have 53 roster spots and have to be under the salary cap.

A team with, say, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Jeremy Sprinkle is not better than a team with Mahomes, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Zach Ertz and Deshazor Everette, even though the latter has more talent.

Back in the precap, unlimited IR, large roster days, the Skins under Cooke, Beathard and Gibbs went three or four deep with starters every where.

Agreed - especially since the Skins already have Kerrigan and Orchard projected to be the backup DE's. Not to mention that Ngakoue is under-sized to be a 43 DE. Honestly, I think it makes sense to trade Kerrigan rather than bench him. I don't think he's fast enough to play OLBer in the 43.


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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1425 » by Wizardspride » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:14 pm

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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1426 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue May 5, 2020 12:28 pm

Sounds like the NFL is making plans to play in a social distancing environment. One of the ideas is to only fill stadiums to about 25% capacity.

The ‘Slurs should be fine then, without really changing anything.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1427 » by Ruzious » Tue May 5, 2020 1:01 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Sounds like the NFL is making plans to play in a social distancing environment. One of the ideas is to only fill stadiums to about 25% capacity.

The ‘Slurs should be fine then, without really changing anything.

Hey, that's not fair. Fans of opposing teams usually get the stadium half-filled. 8-)

Fwiw, at least a month ago I suggested selling every 3rd seat.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1428 » by Wizardspride » Wed May 6, 2020 6:18 pm

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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1429 » by Ruzious » Wed May 6, 2020 6:50 pm

Wizardspride wrote:Very good read.

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That's a great read on what it's like for someone who's always had success - handles dealing with a whole new level of opposition.
While I don't think he'll be a superstar, I'd be very surprised if he's not successful. It kinda irritates me when folks are already planning on what to do when/not it - he fails. At least give him a full season before writing him off. He has the mental and physical tools to succeed.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1430 » by Wizardspride » Thu May 7, 2020 2:41 pm

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Post#1431 » by Wizardspride » Mon May 11, 2020 2:06 pm

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Post#1432 » by Wizardspride » Tue May 12, 2020 2:36 pm

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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1433 » by Ruzious » Tue May 12, 2020 6:16 pm

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AGG was so consistently productive in college - he seems taylor... made to fill the possession receiver role. I think he's a better prospect than Garcon was, as he's just as physical and significantly taller and heavier. Listed at 6'4 220, he even looks like he has the frame to add more weight. Watching highlights, he naturally plays a physical style, and NFL CB's are still tiny compared to him. Every team's gonna put their best CB on McLaurin, so I'm not seeing how they're gonna stop AGG. AG's going to have more spectacular plays, but AGG's gonna be the player they need to grind out first downs and get the ball in the end zone.
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Post#1434 » by Wizardspride » Thu May 14, 2020 11:41 pm

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Bizarre. Why in the world would Dunbar need to rob anyone? And with him being a free agent after this season, if he really did this - this costs him a fortune.

RR's probably a LOT smarter than me, because I would have tried to re-sign Dunbar and given him an extension. But I guess we should wait until we have all the facts. :nonono:
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1436 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat May 16, 2020 2:47 am

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Bizarre. Why in the world would Dunbar need to rob anyone? And with him being a free agent after this season, if he really did this - this costs him a fortune.

RR's probably a LOT smarter than me, because I would have tried to re-sign Dunbar and given him an extension. But I guess we should wait until we have all the facts. :nonono:


I hate to admit it. But, given that he forced his way out and we got practically nothing for him after developing him... I hope he never plays another down in the NFL.

It’s irrational. Unkind. Anti humanistic. Very different from how I am when I’m not a sports fan.

But, nonetheless... so long dude.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1438 » by Ruzious » Mon Jun 8, 2020 1:52 pm

I hardly recognized Haskins in those pictures. He said he's lost 10 pounds - down to 220 this offseason, and his body-fat % is 7% - I think it was about 15% when he was drafted. An extra bit of mobility goes a long way for a QB. A lot of "experts" are projecting him to have a bad year - I think he's gonna surprise them.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1439 » by queridiculo » Mon Jun 8, 2020 6:42 pm

Man, I can't believe this team name is still a thing.

With all the **** that's happening, how does Snyder not recognize the massive opportunity to do the right thing and rename the team.

Washington Natives, Warriors, what else have you.

This franchise could really embrace the natives heritage and actually use their platform to do good for a community that's largely overlooked and dismissed, more so than any other minorities in this country.

From a marketing and merchandising perspective this is really a total no-brainer and you'd think that Snyder's stadion plans would probably be looked at in a far more positive light than what's going on with this franchise right now.

It pains me that this racist nickname continues to be a thing, for **** sake, change it already.
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Re: The Washington Redskins Thread 

Post#1440 » by Ruzious » Mon Jun 8, 2020 7:17 pm

queridiculo wrote:Man, I can't believe this team name is still a thing.

With all the **** that's happening, how does Snyder not recognize the massive opportunity to do the right thing and rename the team.

Washington Natives, Warriors, what else have you.

This franchise could really embrace the natives heritage and actually use their platform to do good for a community that's largely overlooked and dismissed, more so than any other minorities in this country.

From a marketing and merchandising perspective this is really a total no-brainer and you'd think that Snyder's stadion plans would probably be looked at in a far more positive light than what's going on with this franchise right now.

It pains me that this racist nickname continues to be a thing, for **** sake, change it already.

This is not going to be an easy battle. It's because a lot of fans just refuse to believe that the team they've grown up with and loved has a disgraceful name. I remember growing thru that myself - probably 15 years ago or so. I justified it then by saying we respect the name and we certainly don't mean it as an insult. When we say Hail to the ..., we mean it as a celebration. Since then, I studied up on it, and there's no doubt it's unacceptable. But I have relatives, who I can't talk to about it - because they love that name, and they will get red (literally) in the face arguing with me. If the name is changed, a portion of fans will feel betrayed and drop the team.
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