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My read is that our defensive breakdowns are a function of our failure to prevent dribble penetration. Oubre for Bogey gives us offense, but Kelly had been key in our stifling defense at times. His ability to guard 1-3 and his effort on that side of the ball forced the ball to travel laterally, stalling the ball at the point of attack and causing deflections that turned to hurried shots or 50/50 balls and steals.
Without his effort, guards turn the corner on Bogey in the P/R and force Gortat to switch and then chase. He doesn't have the quicktwitch speed to recover on a change of direction. And this team has been conserving energy for a quarter every game, then turning it on late. Come from behind efforts take the wind out of you. Our squad has been conserving energy on the defensive end, where Kelly had all the energy of youth to focus his best efforts on this end of the court. That effort inspires others. And his frenzied effort allowed John and Brad to catch a breath for a few seconds on court when the ball would stick with Kelly's man when he pressed them and gave no passing angles with that pteranodon wingspan
Ditto to some degree Satoransky switched to Jennings. Neither scores, but Sato is long and gives effort on D, where Jennings gives us effort on running up the court then turning the ball over or missing a shot.
Also, Morris has to feel appreciated to want to play hard, in our scorching start to 2017 he was feisty and peevish about the disresepct of opponents and pundits. Over the All-star break he lost momentum.
Without his effort, guards turn the corner on Bogey in the P/R and force Gortat to switch and then chase. He doesn't have the quicktwitch speed to recover on a change of direction. And this team has been conserving energy for a quarter every game, then turning it on late. Come from behind efforts take the wind out of you. Our squad has been conserving energy on the defensive end, where Kelly had all the energy of youth to focus his best efforts on this end of the court. That effort inspires others. And his frenzied effort allowed John and Brad to catch a breath for a few seconds on court when the ball would stick with Kelly's man when he pressed them and gave no passing angles with that pteranodon wingspan
Ditto to some degree Satoransky switched to Jennings. Neither scores, but Sato is long and gives effort on D, where Jennings gives us effort on running up the court then turning the ball over or missing a shot.
Also, Morris has to feel appreciated to want to play hard, in our scorching start to 2017 he was feisty and peevish about the disresepct of opponents and pundits. Over the All-star break he lost momentum.
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Wow, I just checked out the NBA.com stat for deflections because someone was asking about Oubre and I noticed where Mahinmi ranks on a per minute basis:
More or less first in the whole damn league depending on how you want to screen out the really low minutes guys.
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/#!?sort=DEFLECTIONS&dir=1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=PerMinute
More or less first in the whole damn league depending on how you want to screen out the really low minutes guys.
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/#!?sort=DEFLECTIONS&dir=1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=PerMinute
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Wanted to bump this for future reference.
Mahinmi has been pretty mediocre so far this year. Hands of stone. Lower steals and blocks and higher turnovers and fouls. Let's hope he at least regains his form of last March when he was a pretty imposing defensive presence (18th in the league in DRPM).
Mahinmi has been pretty mediocre so far this year. Hands of stone. Lower steals and blocks and higher turnovers and fouls. Let's hope he at least regains his form of last March when he was a pretty imposing defensive presence (18th in the league in DRPM).
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nate33 wrote:Wanted to bump this for future reference.
Mahinmi has been pretty mediocre so far this year. Hands of stone. Lower steals and blocks and higher turnovers and fouls. Let's hope he at least regains his form of last March when he was a pretty imposing defensive presence (18th in the league in DRPM).
Agreed, but I will say we get spoiled by Gortat's GREAT hands. Frazier has fed Mahinmi some garbage passes that he fumbles but arent his fault.
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Ian must have some of the worst hands in the league. Has anyone ever seen him catch a ball cleanly? I still don't see the defensive skill that led to his signing. He seems to be running gingerly and he fouls way too much(esp. for a guy that's been in the league a long time). My question is, what can he do to help this team? This is what Brooks has to discover. Ian has some NBA-level skills. If he went out and grabbed a bunch of boards every game and protected the rim, I'd look past the contract and his lack of offense.
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I can think of a few ways Mahinmi can help this team.
- don't suit up
- ask for a trade
- wear suction cups hidden on finger splints
- retire
- don't suit up
- ask for a trade
- wear suction cups hidden on finger splints
- retire
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pcbothwel wrote:Agreed, but I will say we get spoiled by Gortat's GREAT hands. Frazier has fed Mahinmi some garbage passes that he fumbles but arent his fault.
Dude can't catch balls that hit him square in the hands, heck even rebounds and loose balls have a tendency to end up everywhere except for his hands.
He makes Kwame Brown look like Jim Kaat.
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Mojo Amok wrote:Wow, I just checked out the NBA.com stat for deflections because someone was asking about Oubre and I noticed where Mahinmi ranks on a per minute basis:
More or less first in the whole damn league depending on how you want to screen out the really low minutes guys.
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/#!?sort=DEFLECTIONS&dir=1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=PerMinute
Do fumbled rebounds and passes count as deflections? Would certainly put this stat in perspective.
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pcbothwel wrote:nate33 wrote:Wanted to bump this for future reference.
Mahinmi has been pretty mediocre so far this year. Hands of stone. Lower steals and blocks and higher turnovers and fouls. Let's hope he at least regains his form of last March when he was a pretty imposing defensive presence (18th in the league in DRPM).
Agreed, but I will say we get spoiled by Gortat's GREAT hands. Frazier has fed Mahinmi some garbage passes that he fumbles but arent his fault.
Frazier has been terrible. I'm still not sure he's any better than Jennings
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Illmatic12 wrote:pcbothwel wrote:nate33 wrote:Wanted to bump this for future reference.
Mahinmi has been pretty mediocre so far this year. Hands of stone. Lower steals and blocks and higher turnovers and fouls. Let's hope he at least regains his form of last March when he was a pretty imposing defensive presence (18th in the league in DRPM).
Agreed, but I will say we get spoiled by Gortat's GREAT hands. Frazier has fed Mahinmi some garbage passes that he fumbles but arent his fault.
Frazier has been terrible. I'm still not sure he's any better than Jennings
He is not soooooo slow
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Reading this thread from beginning to end is hilarious and highly recommended...we all started so high on Ian...and slowly and consistently we all soured on him...it was consistent and slow like water eroding granite over centuries and leaving a gorge! Ian has no friends in dc left. thats what happens when you get paid, dont work on your game over the summer and come back one year older but not a one iota better in any category. He catches the ball like he is surprised that someone threw a orange sphere at him and its the first time he has made contact with such a thing. It would be funny if he played for someone else...
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Get rid of this trash ASAP
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CobraCommander wrote:Reading this thread from beginning to end is hilarious and highly recommended...we all started so high on Ian...and slowly and consistently we all soured on him...it was consistent and slow like water eroding granite over centuries and leaving a gorge! Ian has no friends in dc left. thats what happens when you get paid, dont work on your game over the summer and come back one year older but not a one iota better in any category. He catches the ball like he is surprised that someone threw a orange sphere at him and its the first time he has made contact with such a thing. It would be funny if he played for someone else...
Don't include "we" in this. He was a terrible signing from day one. Most knew Ernie screwed the pooch again immediately.
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You called it correctly from the jump
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Don't we all wish we could get a do-over on this signing and have that cap space. Check-out a very spry Emeka Okafor trying to make a come-back into the NBA. Yes he's "old", but compare his play to that of Mahinmi, would love to have Okafor or someone else later in the season.
http://gleague.nba.com/games/20171106/WESDEL/
http://gleague.nba.com/games/20171106/WESDEL/
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queridiculo wrote:Mojo Amok wrote:Wow, I just checked out the NBA.com stat for deflections because someone was asking about Oubre and I noticed where Mahinmi ranks on a per minute basis:
More or less first in the whole damn league depending on how you want to screen out the really low minutes guys.
http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/#!?sort=DEFLECTIONS&dir=1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=PerMinute
Do fumbled rebounds and passes count as deflections? Would certainly put this stat in perspective.
He might be the league leader in offensive deflections per 36.
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I noticed it was a Lakers layup drill until Mahinmi checked in. I would love to see the teams defensive rating with him on/off the court for this game.
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J-Ves wrote:I noticed it was a Lakers layup drill until Mahinmi checked in. I would love to see the teams defensive rating with him on/off the court for this game.
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Mahinmi had a defensive rating of 98 but all the starters posted a better DRTG than that, probably due to Lonzo taking so many 3s.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711090WAS.html
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