ImageImageImageImageImage

NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4

Moderators: LyricalRico, nate33, montestewart

pcbothwel
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,572
And1: 1,764
Joined: Jun 12, 2010
     

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1861 » by pcbothwel » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:16 pm

Frichuela wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

World class roster construction combined with a great coach. Prime example of a well run franchise


A bit disingenuous. They don’t start a PG and dragic plays/will play 26-28 mpg.
Iggy is a real pro, but is turning 37 next month and is a far removed from his prime. Bradley has been overrated for years.

Bertans, Bonga, Brown are a better trio, even if they aren’t battle tested
payitforward
RealGM
Posts: 15,147
And1: 4,816
Joined: May 02, 2012
Location: On the Atlantic

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1862 » by payitforward » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:18 pm

Frichuela wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

World class roster construction combined with a great coach. Prime example of a well run franchise

This above all....
Remember -- if you don't like the post above: blame Doc not me.
DCZards
General Manager
Posts: 8,060
And1: 2,412
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Location: The Streets of DC

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1863 » by DCZards » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:53 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

Don’t forget Achuiwa. Precious is already showing his value with his impactful rebounding and defense.
Frichuela
Junior
Posts: 363
And1: 254
Joined: Feb 25, 2015
 

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1864 » by Frichuela » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:55 pm

DCZards wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

Don’t forget Achuiwa. Precious is already showing his value with his impactful rebounding and defense.

Agreed. Great pick up for them.
User avatar
Dat2U
RealGM
Posts: 21,710
And1: 5,031
Joined: Jun 23, 2001
Location: Columbus, OH
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1865 » by Dat2U » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:59 pm

DCZards wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

Don’t forget Achuiwa. Precious is already showing his value with his impactful rebounding and defense.


We really needed 2 1sts. Avdija looks solid but Achiuwa really popped off the screen in the minutes he played. Miami got a steal.
Frichuela
Junior
Posts: 363
And1: 254
Joined: Feb 25, 2015
 

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1866 » by Frichuela » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:03 pm

Meanwhile, Oubre playing like trash vs the Bucks...It appears he keeps making the same bone headed plays of his Wizards days
bsilver
Senior
Posts: 675
And1: 315
Joined: Aug 09, 2005
Location: New Haven, CT

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1867 » by bsilver » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:28 pm

Love listening to Hubie Brown announce the Warriors Bucks game. Googled his name to see his age. 87. Right at the top of search list is a bunch of tweets saying he sounds old and shouldn’t be announcing any more. Hope no one pays attention to this garbage.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1868 » by nate33 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:48 pm

Has Curry lost a step? He was lousy in the first 5 games he played last year before the injury; he was lousy in preseason; and he has been lousy in 2 games so far in the regular season.

The question is, has he just lost a step with age and injury? Or was he never really the type of guy who could carry a team offensively without the help of some pretty good teammates. I tend to think it's the former. He looked pretty good beating Houston in the playoffs after Durant went down.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1869 » by nate33 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:53 pm

Dat2U wrote:
DCZards wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Miami's got a bench unit led by Dragic/Bradley/Iggy. :o

Don’t forget Achuiwa. Precious is already showing his value with his impactful rebounding and defense.


We really needed 2 1sts. Avdija looks solid but Achiuwa really popped off the screen in the minutes he played. Miami got a steal.


I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to trade Beal for Achiuwa, Herro, Nunn, and the 2023 1st.
User avatar
Dat2U
RealGM
Posts: 21,710
And1: 5,031
Joined: Jun 23, 2001
Location: Columbus, OH
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1870 » by Dat2U » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:07 pm

nate33 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
DCZards wrote:Don’t forget Achuiwa. Precious is already showing his value with his impactful rebounding and defense.


We really needed 2 1sts. Avdija looks solid but Achiuwa really popped off the screen in the minutes he played. Miami got a steal.


I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to trade Beal for Achiuwa, Herro, Nunn, and the 2023 1st.


Swap out Nunn for Duncan Robinson and its interesting.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1871 » by nate33 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:22 pm

Dat2U wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
We really needed 2 1sts. Avdija looks solid but Achiuwa really popped off the screen in the minutes he played. Miami got a steal.


I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to trade Beal for Achiuwa, Herro, Nunn, and the 2023 1st.


Swap out Nunn for Duncan Robinson and its interesting.

Yup. I might look to flip Robinson afterward. I think there are diminishing returns to having both Bertans and Robinson, and Robinson is up for a new contract soon. How much future value would a contender trade for him given that his cap number is so low at the moment? How many picks could you get out of team like Philly?
DCZards
General Manager
Posts: 8,060
And1: 2,412
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Location: The Streets of DC

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1872 » by DCZards » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:22 pm

bsilver wrote:Love listening to Hubie Brown announce the Warriors Bucks game. Googled his name to see his age. 87. Right at the top of search list is a bunch of tweets saying he sounds old and shouldn’t be announcing any more. Hope no one pays attention to this garbage.

Funny...I just did the same thing: Google Hubie’s age. I think it’s time for him to step down and make way for someone younger.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1873 » by nate33 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:24 pm

nate33 wrote:Has Curry lost a step? He was lousy in the first 5 games he played last year before the injury; he was lousy in preseason; and he has been lousy in 2 games so far in the regular season.

The question is, has he just lost a step with age and injury? Or was he never really the type of guy who could carry a team offensively without the help of some pretty good teammates. I tend to think it's the former. He looked pretty good beating Houston in the playoffs after Durant went down.

It's worth noting that JRue is probably the best perimeter defender in the game at the moment. He is making Curry's life tough. That won't happen every game.
LyricalRico
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 30,364
And1: 714
Joined: May 23, 2002
Location: Back into the fray!
Contact:
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1874 » by LyricalRico » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:05 pm

DCZards wrote:
bsilver wrote:Love listening to Hubie Brown announce the Warriors Bucks game. Googled his name to see his age. 87. Right at the top of search list is a bunch of tweets saying he sounds old and shouldn’t be announcing any more. Hope no one pays attention to this garbage.

Funny...I just did the same thing: Google Hubie’s age. I think it’s time for him to step down and make way for someone younger.


Hubie didn't sound too good today, but hopefully he was just a little under the weather and nothing serious. And younger doesn't necessarily mean better (see Richard Jefferson, Chris Webber, etc). My biggest concern is I don't want 2020 getting any ideas. :pray:
LyricalRico
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 30,364
And1: 714
Joined: May 23, 2002
Location: Back into the fray!
Contact:
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1875 » by LyricalRico » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:11 pm

nate33 wrote:Has Curry lost a step? He was lousy in the first 5 games he played last year before the injury; he was lousy in preseason; and he has been lousy in 2 games so far in the regular season.

The question is, has he just lost a step with age and injury? Or was he never really the type of guy who could carry a team offensively without the help of some pretty good teammates. I tend to think it's the former. He looked pretty good beating Houston in the playoffs after Durant went down.


I actually think it's a combination of both. I think Steph needed others more than we realized, especially considering the amount of damage he does off the ball. Yes he was great against Houston, but then again lots of people look great against Houston in the playoffs lol.

It's also disconcerting that he's looking slow after taking all that time off for an injury that had nothing to do with his lower body. You'd think he'd have fresh legs, but that doesn't seem to be the case. GS might be in for a very long season.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 46,830
And1: 5,833
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
Location: Mililani, Hawaii (Oahu)
Contact:
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1876 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:24 pm

Dat2U wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
We really needed 2 1sts. Avdija looks solid but Achiuwa really popped off the screen in the minutes he played. Miami got a steal.


I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to trade Beal for Achiuwa, Herro, Nunn, and the 2023 1st.


Swap out Nunn for Duncan Robinson and its interesting.


Absurd overvaluation of Bradley Beal. I thought nate was joking without the green font. Miami made the Finals and both Robinson and Herro are effective and efficient at very young ages. Achiuwa is a stud.

Beal would take away their ball movement and take away their great chemistry. I’m surprised the Heat even entertained adding James Harden.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 46,830
And1: 5,833
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
Location: Mililani, Hawaii (Oahu)
Contact:
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1877 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:29 pm

bsilver wrote:Love listening to Hubie Brown announce the Warriors Bucks game. Googled his name to see his age. 87. Right at the top of search list is a bunch of tweets saying he sounds old and shouldn’t be announcing any more. Hope no one pays attention to this garbage.


Hubie is still solid but Marv Albert the other night was almost unbearable. He sounded out of breath, was mouth breathing loudly, could not keep up with the game action and it was really brutal. He didn’t seem to know the rosters. Easily the worst I’ve ever heard.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 46,830
And1: 5,833
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
Location: Mililani, Hawaii (Oahu)
Contact:
       

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1878 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:34 pm

Kelly Oubre is off to a terrible start with GS.

Followed a 3-14 FG shooting with 1-10. Dude is 4–24 and at least one make was a dunk.

Bet they’re having buyer’s remorse.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1879 » by nate33 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:00 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
nate33 wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if it makes sense to trade Beal for Achiuwa, Herro, Nunn, and the 2023 1st.


Swap out Nunn for Duncan Robinson and its interesting.


Absurd overvaluation of Bradley Beal. I thought nate was joking without the green font. Miami made the Finals and both Robinson and Herro are effective and efficient at very young ages. Achiuwa is a stud.

Beal would take away their ball movement and take away their great chemistry. I’m surprised the Heat even entertained adding James Harden.

CCJ, Miami would definitely trade Herro + Achiuwa + 2023 1st for Beal.

Butler + Beal + Bam + Robinson would be a title favorite - particularly if they could keep Dragic and Iguodala. (That's possible if we included a Mo Wagner/Kelly Olynyk swap.)
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#1880 » by nate33 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:01 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kelly Oubre is off to a terrible start with GS.

Followed a 3-14 FG shooting with 1-10. Dude is 4–24 and at least one make was a dunk.

Bet they’re having buyer’s remorse.

They signed him on a one-year deal so they could use him as ballast in a trade in case Giannis resigned.

Giannis has resigned so expect an Olynyk trade before the deadline.

Return to Washington Wizards