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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#241 » by Jaekast » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:02 pm

I hope my post was SJW compliant.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#242 » by payitforward » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:26 pm

Jaekast wrote:I hope my post was SJW compliant.

You really know how to make friends, huh?

You've been registered on this board for over 3 years & made a few dozen posts. Now in a few hours you manage to find a way to be offensive twice on a subject that's unrelated to the Wizards & of no interest.

I don't think Brooks has any defenders here. & as to politics, there's a very wide spectrum of committed points of view here & a thread to discuss them.

nate & I couldn't be more opposed on virtually every social and political issue. But we know how to discuss them, & we know how to interact about the Washington Wizards as well. For that reason, nate's one of my favorite people here, & I'd be willing to wager that he has a similar estimation of me.

I don't want to engage in any debate with you that's not about the Washington Wizards. Or read any such debate (except in the politics thread, of course). I'd be grateful if you'd just drop this stuff & weigh in on the issues that actually bring us together here to bear the tragic burden of the Wizards fan.

If you would please do that, you will be very welcome here I am sure.

Above all, do me the favor of not *reacting* to this post: I'm not laying down the law or giving a lecture; I'm just trying to be real -- with the hope to leave the other stuff behind, ok?
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Post#243 » by trast66 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:43 am

He’s one half from being fired. Interesting to see what players try to save him.
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Post#245 » by BigA » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:10 pm

DC, where coaching careers come to die.
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Post#246 » by 80sballboy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:05 pm

I still don't think Ted buys him out. If he does, he's getting a cheaper version like Sam I Am.

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Post#247 » by Gig18 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:19 pm

Brooks may be bad, but he's not the one giving up 70 points a half.
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Post#248 » by deneem4 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:51 pm

The only way brooks can turn it around is by supporting the in the locker room
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Post#249 » by gtn130 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:12 am

Pretty amazing playing Wall, Beal and Rivers at the same time
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Post#250 » by queridiculo » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:20 am

BigA wrote:DC, where coaching careers come to die.


The Wizards best coaching hire was Thibodeau, and we all know how that worked out.

The guys that Grunfeld brought in have consistently been uninspiring.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#251 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:14 pm

Would anybody consider Rick Pitino?

He did okay in his first stint in the NBA with the Knicks, taking the same 24-win team coached by Hubie Brown into a 38-win and then 52-win team. He didn't fare as well in Boston, taking a 19-win team to 35 wins, but plateauing there until eventually losing the team. However, his coaching style with aggressive D and lots of 3-point shooting seems ideal for the modern NBA.
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Post#252 » by cwb3 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:20 pm

I love his hair
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Post#253 » by queridiculo » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:40 pm

nate33 wrote:Would anybody consider Rick Pitino?

He did okay in his first stint in the NBA with the Knicks, taking the same 24-win team coached by Hubie Brown into a 38-win and then 52-win team. He didn't fare as well in Boston, taking a 19-win team to 35 wins, but plateauing there until eventually losing the team. However, his coaching style with aggressive D and lots of 3-point shooting seems ideal for the modern NBA.


I don't think I can ever get over how much of a sleazeball Pitino comes across as.

How about Becky Hammon or Ettore Messina?
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#254 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:50 pm

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nate33 wrote:Would anybody consider Rick Pitino?

He did okay in his first stint in the NBA with the Knicks, taking the same 24-win team coached by Hubie Brown into a 38-win and then 52-win team. He didn't fare as well in Boston, taking a 19-win team to 35 wins, but plateauing there until eventually losing the team. However, his coaching style with aggressive D and lots of 3-point shooting seems ideal for the modern NBA.


I don't think I can ever get over how much of a sleazeball Pitino comes across as.

How about Becky Hammon or Ettore Messina?

I honestly wonder who well elite male athletes will accept coaching from a woman. I'm not saying those women aren't well qualified, but the NBA is a pretty macho league and some players may never afford a woman coach the same respect. That wouldn't be an issue at the high school or college level where it's the coach's way or the highway, but at the pro level, the star players generally have more power than the coach.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#255 » by gtn130 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:08 pm

nate33 wrote:Would anybody consider Rick Pitino?

He did okay in his first stint in the NBA with the Knicks, taking the same 24-win team coached by Hubie Brown into a 38-win and then 52-win team. He didn't fare as well in Boston, taking a 19-win team to 35 wins, but plateauing there until eventually losing the team. However, his coaching style with aggressive D and lots of 3-point shooting seems ideal for the modern NBA.


I watch a fair amount of college basketball and he's truly a terrible coach. He has no idea what he's doing and his pressuring system is totally asinine. He doesn't appear to actually game plan for specific teams, and he's mostly just a recruiter and program manager. There are a bunch of specifics I could go into, but it would be a derail and would require some knowledge of college basketball teams and players.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#256 » by BigA » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:46 pm

If the Wiz blow it up, I'd bring back Ed Tapscott as tank commander.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#257 » by queridiculo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:24 am

nate33 wrote:I honestly wonder who well elite male athletes will accept coaching from a woman. I'm not saying those women aren't well qualified, but the NBA is a pretty macho league and some players may never afford a woman coach the same respect. That wouldn't be an issue at the high school or college level where it's the coach's way or the highway, but at the pro level, the star players generally have more power than the coach.


It's something I wonder too, but on the issue of respect, if you can't extend it on the basis of gender, I probably wouldn't want to have you be part of my organization.

Based on my experience working in tech, and it's probably not much different in any male dominated field, I have found that aptitude to be a great equalizer.

If Becky Hammond can demonstrate that she knows what she's talking about, all of that will quickly fall by the wayside.
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#258 » by queridiculo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:26 am

BigA wrote:If the Wiz blow it up, I'd bring back Ed Tapscott as tank commander.


Was thinking about this the other day and chuckled when I saw that he's still with the team. Somewhat fitting that Ernie's crony is still with this team in a Director function.

Player development has clearly been a strength of this franchise...
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Re: Scott Brooks is bad 

Post#259 » by Eli Babak » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:16 pm

Why the heck he plays Rivers so much? He should not play more than 10-15 mins a game (unless he gets crazy hot). Right now I'm pretty much rooting this team to lose every game so maybe something would happen.

It's also crazy that with all the injuries and bad performances Brown and Bryant don't get a single minute. Brooks just loves his "vets" or whatever.
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Post#260 » by gtn130 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:29 pm

Eli Babak wrote:Why the heck he plays Rivers so much?


Not only is he playing Rivers a ton, but he's playing him often times alongside Wall and Beal. People have been screaming for years now that he needs to stagger Wall and Beal more - instead he's playing 3 guard lineups and doubling down on not staggering, and he's doing this so he can play Austin Rivers off-ball? Sure.

Somewhat tangential, but I was watching the GSW - Chicago massacre of a game the other night and at the start of the 4th quarter GSW was running an all-bench unit because they were up like 20+. It was striking because it made you realize that you never see an all-bench unit from Golden State, and this is a team with the best roster of all time.

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