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Zack Lowe was commenting to the Toronto Media that during the season Lowry & Derozen are the superior players but in the playoffs Wall & Beal are more clutch! I think this has a grain of truth in that in the playoffs the Toronto pairing hasn't been dominant. But also Lowry came into some of the series with nagging injuries. This year Lowry & DeRozen have changed their game I believe for a positive. Wall has missed a significant number of games but is getting back on track and it is obvious that both Beal & Wall need each other to excel.

I like both teams but am a Toronto fan 1st but think it is a interesting topic!

Agreed. Frustrating to watch during the year, but the truth is nobody wants to see us in the playoffs. Only GSW has a record as good as us against teams above .500.

Historically, I'd agree. But every year is a new year and the Raptors look like they've made meaningful changes that might contribute to postseason success.

pcbothwel wrote:Agreed. Frustrating to watch during the year, but the truth is nobody wants to see us in the playoffs. Only GSW has a record as good as us against teams above .500.

I think "nobody wants to see us in the playoffs" might be a wee bit of an overstatement. & your supporting evidence might be a wee bit misleading.

Lets say we come in 4th in the East, the teams above us being Cleveland, Boston & Toronto. Are you sure that all the bottom 4 would rather play Cleveland in R1 than the Wizards? Would they all rather play Boston than us?

Historically one or more might think we could be a tougher opponent than Toronto, no doubt. Then again, this year Toronto is killing the entire league -- up 8 points a game.

How about if a couple of those teams are below .500 -- we have a terrible record vs. teams below .500. Wouldn't that make them want us; based on your same evidence, I mean?

Then there's the West. Are you sure GS would rather face Cleveland than the Wizards, for example?

The way this team goes lazy on poorer teams and punches up against better teams, id prefer to finish in the bottom 4.

On topic though, I actually dont want to face Raps in the first round this year. Or probably at all. Despite previous years performances by both teams, I think Raps will overcome that in the playoffs this time around and be a dangerous team that shouldnt be slept on. And the Wiz have a really bad habit of sleeping on everyone this year.

cammac wrote:
I like both teams but am a Toronto fan 1st but think it is a interesting topic!

Exactly whats so interesting about it? Its the same **** every year. No body I know of care about no Raptors.