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No need to predict what team they'll be on, just the money!

Wall - 3 years, 45 million, third year team option
Beal - Max
Porter - 3 years, 75 million
Morris - 1 year, 5 million
Howard - 2 year, tax mle
Oubre - 4 years, 51 million
Satoransky - 2 years, 13 million
Mahinmi - 1 year, 4.5 million
Brown Jr - Too early to say
Rivers - 2 years, 20 million
Green - 2 years, 7.5 million
Meeks - Out of League
Sessions - Vet minimum
Smith - Vet minimum
Robinson - 2 years, 5 million
Bryant - G-league

Ernie - lifetime contract

Wall - no sense to predict now
Beal - max
Porter - traded signed for 3/60M
Morris - hopefully traded, signed for MLE
Howard - opts-in next year
Oubre - 4/50M
Satoransky - 3/20M
Mahinmi - retires in 2020 or vet min somewhere
Brown Jr - still a rookie
Rivers - signs somewhere else, 1/5M
Green - vet minimum
Meeks - retires or China
Sessions - he's not a Wizard right now though Ernie will call him in order to get veteran help for playoffs
Smith - retires or vet min somewhere
Robinson - G-League or overseas
Bryant - 3/6M

The only ones I really care about are the ones we might try and resign next year:

Oubre 4 years $56M
Sato 3 years $16M
Green 2 years $11M
Bryant 2 years $11M

WAS should try to come to an agreement w Oubre before the offseason. Someone is gonna throw a lot of money at him if they strike out on a marquee guy

nate33 wrote:The only ones I really care about are the ones we might try and resign next year:

Oubre 4 years $56M
Sato 3 years $16M
Green 2 years $11M
Bryant 2 years $11M

That seems an awful lot of $$ to throw at Jeff Green, who'll be 33 when next season begins.

A lot of bad contracts coming off books this year in NBA. I think Sato and maybe Oubre get big offers. Kelly if shooting improves.

Sato 4/38
Oubre 4/60

Sato is gonna get a 4 year $28M type deal

Oubre is gonna be between 4 years $40-50M

payitforward wrote:

nate33 wrote:The only ones I really care about are the ones we might try and resign next year:

Oubre 4 years $56M
Sato 3 years $16M
Green 2 years $11M
Bryant 2 years $11M

That seems an awful lot of $$ to throw at Jeff Green, who'll be 33 when next season begins.

That seems right in line with EG's past performance. This very easily could be the DeShawn Stevenson 2.0(or are we at a higher version) contract. A good year from Jeff Green could easily trick EG into retaining him on a deal that is too much and too long(anything over 1 year at this point).

trast66 wrote:A lot of bad contracts coming off books this year in NBA. I think Sato and maybe Oubre get big offers. Kelly if shooting improves.

Sato 4/38
Oubre 4/60

But there is also a massive supply of available free agents.

Also, understand that many of those bad contracts coming off the books will get a lot of teams out from luxtax territory but not necessarily get them significantly below the cap. There are about 16 teams who will below the cap by an amount greater than the MLE, about 10 of whom will be able to put together max contracts.

But there are at least 9 all-star caliber free agents available who are a much higher priority for teams than a guy like Oubre or Sato:

Durant
Kawhi
K.Irving
J.Butler
Klay
T.Harris
Kemba
Cousins
KAT (RFA)
Porzingis (RFA)

And then after those guys, you get into other guys whom some teams may value more than Oubre:

M.Turner (RFA)
T.Rozier (RFA)
Larry Nance Jr. (RFA)
T.Evans
Mirotic

And then there's a handful of wings that can do basically what Oubre does, though maybe some are older. But the point is, with the supply of wings out there, it may drive down the price of Oubre. Why spend $16M a year on Oubre (and tie up your money while waiting on Washington to match) when you can get one of these guys for half that?

KCP
Mbah a Moute
R.Gay
D.Green
Aminu
Stanley Johnson (RFA)
Winslow (RFA)
T.Ross

Rivers: 2 years 20 mill with the Guangdong tigers.

Morris: 10.50/hour at Walmart

Brooks: 500K to be Gary Oldmans stunt double

nate33 wrote:

trast66 wrote:A lot of bad contracts coming off books this year in NBA. I think Sato and maybe Oubre get big offers. Kelly if shooting improves.

Sato 4/38
Oubre 4/60

But there is also a massive supply of available free agents.

Also, understand that many of those bad contracts coming off the books will get a lot of teams out from luxtax territory but not necessarily get them significantly below the cap. There are about 16 teams who will below the cap by an amount greater than the MLE, about 10 of whom will be able to put together max contracts.

But there are at least 9 all-star caliber free agents available who are a much higher priority for teams than a guy like Oubre or Sato:

Durant
Kawhi
K.Irving
J.Butler
Klay
T.Harris
Kemba
Cousins
KAT (RFA)
Porzingis (RFA)

And then after those guys, you get into other guys whom some teams may value more than Oubre:

M.Turner (RFA)
T.Rozier (RFA)
Larry Nance Jr. (RFA)
T.Evans
Mirotic

And then there's a handful of wings that can do basically what Oubre does, though maybe some are older. But the point is, with the supply of wings out there, it may drive down the price of Oubre. Why spend $16M a year on Oubre (and tie up your money while waiting on Washington to match) when you can get one of these guys for half that?

KCP
Mbah a Moute
R.Gay
D.Green
Aminu
Stanley Johnson (RFA)
Winslow (RFA)
T.Ross

It only takes one team to make a crazy offfer. I’m not saying I would pay them that, but I think some team will.

All MAX! Ernie doesn't negotiate.

verbal8 wrote:

payitforward wrote:

nate33 wrote:The only ones I really care about are the ones we might try and resign next year:

Oubre 4 years $56M
Sato 3 years $16M
Green 2 years $11M
Bryant 2 years $11M

That seems an awful lot of $$ to throw at Jeff Green, who'll be 33 when next season begins.

That seems right in line with EG's past performance. This very easily could be the DeShawn Stevenson 2.0(or are we at a higher version) contract. A good year from Jeff Green could easily trick EG into retaining him on a deal that is too much and too long(anything over 1 year at this point).

I think all it would take is for Green to duplicate his play in Cleveland last year. That guy was a perfectly solid, taxpayer-MLE-caliber guy. The only reason he didn't cost that much this year was because nobody is convinced he can play that well when not alongside Lebron.

I'm not saying the Wizards will pay Green 2 years $11M, but I do think somebody will if he duplicates last year's performance.

nate33 wrote:

verbal8 wrote:

payitforward wrote:That seems an awful lot of $$ to throw at Jeff Green, who'll be 33 when next season begins.

That seems right in line with EG's past performance. This very easily could be the DeShawn Stevenson 2.0(or are we at a higher version) contract. A good year from Jeff Green could easily trick EG into retaining him on a deal that is too much and too long(anything over 1 year at this point).

I think all it would take is for Green to duplicate his play in Cleveland last year. That guy was a perfectly solid, taxpayer-MLE-caliber guy. The only reason he didn't cost that much this year was because nobody is convinced he can play that well when not alongside Lebron.

I'm not saying the Wizards will pay Green 2 years $11M, but I do think somebody will if he duplicates last year's performance.

2017-2018 Jeff green was even better than Morris. He’s 32 though

NatP4 wrote:

nate33 wrote:

verbal8 wrote:
That seems right in line with EG's past performance. This very easily could be the DeShawn Stevenson 2.0(or are we at a higher version) contract. A good year from Jeff Green could easily trick EG into retaining him on a deal that is too much and too long(anything over 1 year at this point).

I think all it would take is for Green to duplicate his play in Cleveland last year. That guy was a perfectly solid, taxpayer-MLE-caliber guy. The only reason he didn't cost that much this year was because nobody is convinced he can play that well when not alongside Lebron.

I'm not saying the Wizards will pay Green 2 years $11M, but I do think somebody will if he duplicates last year's performance.

2017-2018 Jeff green was even better than Morris. He’s 32 though

True. That's why I'm talking about a 2-year deal. Not a 4-year deal. 2 years, $11M seems completely reasonable if Green can duplicate his Cleveland year. Last year, he averaged 17 points 5 boards and 2 assists per 36 minutes with an ORtg of 115 and serviceable defense. He did so over 24 minutes per game.