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Can john wall and Brad Beal shoot 47% with 5 assists countdown tracker?

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Can john wall and Brad Beal shoot 47% with 5 assists countdown tracker? 

Post#1 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:19 pm

I wanted started a tread tracking if our two leading scores can average 50 shooting from the field and hit at least one three Pointer while creating assist to make his team better?


a truesuper max player like steph curry is doing this. so far wall has been pretty pathetic but can he prove to us that he deserves his super max salary like curry does? in 7 games wall has made his team mates better but only 1 game out of 6 has heshot the ball over 50 percent. very unacceptable for a super max player. so again wall is making mates better but not shooting over 50 percent. If he cant shoot over 50 percent and make his mates better at the SAME TIME, we should move on from his super max salary. agian look below, only game he has shot close to or over 50 percent was miami game.very concerning.

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ONly one game the entire season that he has shot 50 percent. thats very sad for your franchise player.

beal has been a bit better but not much. He is not doing the two things we need which is shoot over 50 percent and make his team mates better with assists at the same time. He has three games he has shot over 50 percent out 6 but only one game where he shot over 50 percent and made his team mates better with assists. for the number one option to only have one game where has has shot over 50 percent while handing out over 5 assist is pretty bad.

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Re: Can john wall and Brad Beal shoot 50% with 5 assists countdown tracker? 

Post#2 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:57 pm

Yeah, Wall and Beal can't shoot as well as the greatest shooter in the history of the sport. Clearly, that means they suck.
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Post#3 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:12 pm

Look wall is making 38 million. Wall better be one of the greatest nba players at something. He doesn't make alot of threes yet he still can't shoot close to 50 percent. Usually a guard that can't shoot threes leads the league in free throw attempts.
Very poor analysis is being done on this board.
Players shooting above 50 percent...Giannis, lebron, durant,anthondavis, karl towns,Drummond, jrue Holliday, LaMarcus Aldridge,Gobert, kyrie irving, olapido, Garyharris.jonas valanciunas, Jimmy butler, klay thompson

We don't have one high volume scorer that's even sniffing 50 percent shooting efficiency on total volume. And James harden and Westbrook lead the league in free throw attempts which is basically a hidden boost to field goal percentage. either wall needs to to lead the league onfree throw attempts or at leastshoot the same percentage as a tobias Harris.. 475.
Wall is being paid next season as atop ten player.
We need to trade him and bring back a player who can give us volume scoring at least .48 per percent. Jrue holiday?
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Post#4 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:28 pm

Two seasons ago, Beal posted a TS% of .604 while averaging 24 points per game. That's pretty damn close to elite scoring. It's not as good as Harden, Durant, Lebron or Curry who are MVP-caliber players destined to be among the top 50 of all time; but it's in the next tier with lots of other good scorers like Butler, Oladipo, Aldridge, etc.
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Post#5 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:09 pm

But can Beal shoot 47% and make his team better with 5 assist per game?
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Post#6 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:33 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:But can Beal shoot 47% and make his team better with 5 assist per game?

Who gives a crap? 47% is an entirely arbitrary number that you picked out of thin air. Besides, FG% is an obsolete stat. What matters is eFG% or TS%. Beal (from 2 seasons ago) compares favorably with all but the very best scorers in the league in that light.

Oh, and Beal averaged 4.5 assists last year (but probably won't do so again as long as the offense runs through Wall).
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Post#7 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:33 pm

nate33 wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:But can Beal shoot 47% and make his team better with 5 assist per game?

Who gives a crap? 47% is an entirely arbitrary number that you picked out of thin air. Besides, FG% is an obsolete stat. What matters is eFG% or TS%. Beal (from 2 seasons ago) compares favorably with all but the very best scorers in the league in that light.

Oh, and Beal averaged 4.5 assists last year (but probably won't do so again as long as the offense runs through Wall).

You're right; FG% is not telling except as it contributes to eFG%. Well... for that matter, eFG% is only important as it contributes to TS%.

TS% is the only measure of how good a scorer someone is (along with usage of course: high usage is assumed in talking about Brad).

Beal's career average TS% is .549. Nothing special, just barely above an average NBA wing. Yet, it's been better the last 3 years: he's averaged .570.

That's good, a nice step above average. But, it's not anywhere near elite. Moreover, .604 in a single year is not an indication that a player is elite, near-elite, or anything else. It's an indication that the player had a very good year scoring the ball. But, Harden's career TS% is .608. Curry's career TS% is .623. J.J. Redick's career TS% is .599.

Using Beal's TS% from a single year 2 years ago as a way to describe him as a player is a poor idea. When you add that he "averaged 4.5 assists last year" -- a different year from the single high TS% year -- you compound the problem: that was a complete outlier! 25% above his assists/40 minutes in any previous year.

My point here isn't to be critical of you, nate. Only to point out that the expected result of working this way is to convince oneself of something that just isn't true. In this case, the result is to make Brad Beal look like a near-elite NBA shooting guard. Something which, to this point in his career, he is not -- absolutely not! & not close either.

& the danger of this is that it leads people (not you necessarily) to think that "oh we shouldn't trade Brad Beal," when, yeah, we should.

We have an unsustainable salary structure that is an unscalable wall between the Washington Wizards & any possible attempt to compete for an NBA title. We need to recognize & rectify that problem.
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Post#8 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:37 pm

payitforward wrote:
nate33 wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:But can Beal shoot 47% and make his team better with 5 assist per game?

Who gives a crap? 47% is an entirely arbitrary number that you picked out of thin air. Besides, FG% is an obsolete stat. What matters is eFG% or TS%. Beal (from 2 seasons ago) compares favorably with all but the very best scorers in the league in that light.

Oh, and Beal averaged 4.5 assists last year (but probably won't do so again as long as the offense runs through Wall).

You're right; FG% is not telling except as it contributes to eFG%. Well... for that matter, eFG% is only important as it contributes to TS%.

TS% is the only measure of how good a scorer someone is (along with usage of course: high usage is assumed in talking about Brad).

Beal's career average TS% is .549. Nothing special, just barely above an average NBA wing. Yet, it's been better the last 3 years: he's averaged .570.

That's good, a nice step above average. But, it's not anywhere near elite. Moreover, .604 in a single year is not an indication that a player is elite, near-elite, or anything else. It's an indication that the player had a very good year scoring the ball. But, Harden's career TS% is .608. Curry's career TS% is .623. J.J. Redick's career TS% is .599.

Using Beal's TS% from a single year 2 years ago as a way to describe him as a player is a poor idea. When you add that he "averaged 4.5 assists last year" -- a different year from the single high TS% year -- you compound the problem: that was a complete outlier! 25% above his assists/40 minutes in any previous year.

My point here isn't to be critical of you, nate. Only to point out that the expected result of working this way is to convince oneself of something that just isn't true. In this case, the result is to make Brad Beal look like a near-elite NBA shooting guard. Something which, to this point in his career, he is not -- absolutely not! & not close either.

& the danger of this is that it leads people (not you necessarily) to think that "oh we shouldn't trade Brad Beal," when, yeah, we should.

We have an unsustainable salary structure that is an unscalable wall between the Washington Wizards & any possible attempt to compete for an NBA title. We need to recognize & rectify that problem.

I didn't mean to imply that Bradley Beal is currently meeting Wizdynasty's arbitrary criteria, I was just saying that there is evidence that suggests he is capable. He did it for one year on the scoring side of the equation, and he approached it another year from the passing side. Can he do both at the same time? Can he do it consistently for a number of years in a row? I don't know. But it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
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Post#9 » by WizarDynasty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:02 am

10/30 report. Beal was only able to perform one of two criteria needed. He failed to shoot over 47 percent but did manage to make his team mates better. Again tonight, Beal as usual, could not do both things at the same time which is what wizards need. Beal shot a disgusting 31 Percent from field but did drop 7 dimes. the wizards loss as well.

Wall finally helps makes his team mates better and shoots over 47 percent. He was able to do both at the same time. round of applause. :rockon: Can he repeat this again? How many more games will pass for this to happen again. Good job Wall. wall shot 60 percent and dropped 7 dimes.

would like to track if wizards win when both our top dawgs drop over 5 dimes a piece and both shoot over 47 percent, how often wizards actually win.
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Post#10 » by WizarDynasty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:14 am

A high motor big that draws double teams in the post cures decades of problems. Maybe wiz aes tank this year to get him.
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Post#11 » by WizarDynasty » Sat Nov 3, 2018 8:45 am

10.2. 18 tracker. Congrats to wall shot awesome 8 of 13 with 9 assist. Wall shot way over 47 percent and got mates involved at same time.
Beal awesome too shot amazing 10 of 16 ..well over 47 percent and drop 4 assist. Getting mates involved. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Two games in a row.
Very unusual but good. We didn't win but now we need the rest of the bench to carry their weight.
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Post#12 » by nate33 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:15 pm

Yes.

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Post#13 » by tontoz » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:17 pm

:lol:

Maybe Beal read the thread and took it to heart. Major props to WizD. :bowdown:
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Post#14 » by BigA » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:50 pm

Maybe WizD will return now that it's the off season.
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Post#15 » by WizarDynasty » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:04 am

Rock on Beal. Beal definition of Wizard from my vision over a decade ago. Hachi will. Be a nice addition. Ted should use gibillions and hire me as a cheap scout. His reach is long.
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