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GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2019 9:48 pm
by ducler
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Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 12:15 am
by dckingsfan
Nicely done ducler - that should sink the Wiz tonight fo sho

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 1:23 am
by 80sballboy
Refs on the tank machine.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 1:48 am
by MarcoPolo
Awful 3pts shooting in today's NBA = automatic lose

As soon as I wrote this they went 4/6 :D

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 1:49 am
by 80sballboy
Beal apparently hurt, Randle shooting well and still no Troy Brown.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 1:58 am
by 80sballboy
Wiz actually looking pretty good on the road. Even Mahinmi is contributing.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:14 am
by MarcoPolo
If Miami really wants to win just pass the ball inside to Whiteside.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:37 am
by 80sballboy
I think Miami has missed about 10 layups tonight.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:47 am
by nate33
This is shaping up nicely for the Wizards. They'll lose a tight one. Ariza will have a pretty big night and improve his trade value.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:50 am
by 80sballboy
And still no Troy Brown because Ariza has to play like 45 minutes at 33.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:50 am
by 80sballboy
nate33 wrote:This is shaping up nicely for the Wizards. They'll lose a tight one. Ariza will have a pretty big night and improve his trade value.


Nate, what is deal with trading Ariza. Don't they have to package him with another player?

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:55 am
by youngWizzy
Ariza is playing really selfish on the offensive end. He's had some terrible drives that never had a chance of going in

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:58 am
by nate33
80sballboy wrote:
nate33 wrote:This is shaping up nicely for the Wizards. They'll lose a tight one. Ariza will have a pretty big night and improve his trade value.


Nate, what is deal with trading Ariza. Don't they have to package him with another player?

No. They CAN'T package him with another player. But they can trade him by himself for any number of incoming players. The new CBA provides more latitude with salary differential in trades. Basically, Ariza's $15M salary can go out and we only need to take back $10M. A trade that maximizes the TPE would save $5M off the cap and $7.5M off the luxtax. There are several possibilities out there involving Sacramento (Koufos?) LA (Rondo or KCP?), New Orleans (Johnson + Payton?) and some others that I haven't thought of yet.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:59 am
by trast66
Maybe I’m very old school, but I’d prefer the injured Wall and Morris not travel with team. Let this group gel and develop without those guys around. Plus shouldn’t they be resting and/or rehabbing?

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:04 am
by nate33
trast66 wrote:Maybe I’m very old school, but I’d prefer the injured Wall and Morris not travel with team. Let this group gel and develop without those guys around. Plus shouldn’t they be resting and/or rehabbing?

I think in the old school, they would expect all the teammates to travel with the team. I see nothing wrong with it. Indeed, I think Morris and Wall should be commended for traveling with the team to support their teammates.

There's enough to complain about it with respect to Wall and Morris, let's not invent new things.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:09 am
by TheBabyMaker
trast66 wrote:Maybe I’m very old school, but I’d prefer the injured Wall and Morris not travel with team. Let this group gel and develop without those guys around. Plus shouldn’t they be resting and/or rehabbing?


No you're not old school, you just don't like those guys. (understandable)
but they need to show up for work when they can. The are still getting paid.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:11 am
by 80sballboy
nate33 wrote:
trast66 wrote:Maybe I’m very old school, but I’d prefer the injured Wall and Morris not travel with team. Let this group gel and develop without those guys around. Plus shouldn’t they be resting and/or rehabbing?

I think in the old school, they would expect all the teammates to travel with the team. I see nothing wrong with it. Indeed, I think Morris and Wall should be commended for traveling with the team to support their teammates.

There's enough to complain about it with respect to Wall and Morris, let's not invent new things.


That not old school, that's ridiculous. John is having surgery in a couple of days so he will not be travelling with the team for a long time. He doesn't have to travel but shows he still wants to be part of the team. I really don't care if Kieff travels or not. If Brooks needs a guy to help yell at the refs, he has his guy.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:16 am
by trast66
Ok I’ll chill on them traveling with team. I’ve never been involved with a team as player or coach where injured traveled, but obviously these guys have charter planes, they are not riding buses.

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:17 am
by 80sballboy
nate33 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
nate33 wrote:This is shaping up nicely for the Wizards. They'll lose a tight one. Ariza will have a pretty big night and improve his trade value.


Nate, what is deal with trading Ariza. Don't they have to package him with another player?

No. They CAN'T package him with another player. But they can trade him by himself for any number of incoming players. The new CBA provides more latitude with salary differential in trades. Basically, Ariza's $15M salary can go out and we only need to take back $10M. A trade that maximizes the TPE would save $5M off the cap and $7.5M off the luxtax. There are several possibilities out there involving Sacramento (Koufos?) LA (Rondo or KCP?), New Orleans (Johnson + Payton?) and some others that I haven't thought of yet.


Yea, I got that twisted. Here's what Tom Haberstroh said about 3 weeks ago.
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/video/could-trevor-ariza-be-traded-again-tom-haberstroh-explains

Re: GT #39: Zards @ Heat 8 PM

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:17 am
by youngWizzy
Ariza really needs to stop driving its just not in his game. Hes threw it away multiple times and congests the lane many times