dobrojim wrote:A fetus is morally the same, you believe what you want to believe, and I'll do the same. At least on my island, i stand with both an unborn baby and the kids being treated as less than at the detention centers. Both are wrong, one doesn't have some superiority over the other.
I don't object to your believing what you believe even though I completely disagree.
I do strongly object to your imposing that belief me, my family and on everyone else.
Plus I don't actually believe that in actual practice you truly think a fetus is the same
as a baby. I have repeatedly provided hypotheticals which demonstrate this. You dismiss
them as mere hypotheticals rather than address the rationale.
payitforward wrote:daoneandonly wrote:It hasn't been explained in any way that proves the progressive tax system is better. Everyone should pay the same rate, I am not better than you, you are not better than point, point is not better than dck, dck is not better than ruz, ruz is not better than monte. We're all the same, we all make what we make, and we should all pay the same % of what we make for the services we share. Despite the fact that some of us will never use many of those very services. You can argue with it any which way, same % is fair no matter how you slice it.
A fetus is morally the same, you believe what you want to believe, and I'll do the same. At least on my island, i stand with both an unborn baby and the kids being treated as less than at the detention centers. Both are wrong, one doesn't have some superiority over the other.
You make two unrelated points here -- or, rather, you take two unrelated stands. I don't agree with either of them, but I don't have an argument to make in respect of the second one. Your idea of what's a moral issue is entirely up to you; as long as you don't seek to impose it (though of course you are free to militate for it as much as you please), no problem.
The problem though my fellow posters is you and the government are essentially imposing your belief that people who earn more are responsible and obligated to pay more taxes than ppl who earn less to help them, to make their life easier. That too is a moral issue, one that is no more or less important than that of abortion.
If we're going to operate under the premise that the government and others should not be able to impose moral beliefs on others, than we also need to rid ourselves of the progressive tax system, funding PP, and other programs where people who earn more have to disproportionately pay more because someone deemed it the moral thing to do