Tommy Sheppard -- Fearless New Leader!

payitforward · Post #321 » by **payitforward** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:01 am

We have two all star level players? Who are they?

NatP4 · Post #322 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:16 am

payitforward wrote:We have two all star level players? Who are they?

Well Isaiah Todd and Jordan Schakel, obviously.

Dark Faze · Post #323 » by **Dark Faze** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:43 pm

There are many bad jobs but Leonsis is pretty uniquely terrible in terms of his attempts to force a near-permanent state of mediocrity. In fact, it's not mediocrity. I'd consider mediocrity a permanent 6-8 seed caliber team that occasionally sees the second round. Leonsis is content with a step below that.

Orlando and Detroit have just had miserable draft luck/choices, but at least they were in position to pick franchise changing talent.

I don't like our talent. Kispert we're basically developing into a journeyman roleplayer for some other team. Rui is what he is, which is disappointing. I do like Deni's potential, but I'm very doubtful he becomes an all-star level player.

Frichuela · Post #324 » by **Frichuela** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:53 pm

Dark Faze wrote:There are many bad jobs but Leonsis is pretty uniquely terrible in terms of his attempts to force a near-permanent state of mediocrity. In fact, it's not mediocrity. I'd consider mediocrity a permanent 6-8 seed caliber team that occasionally sees the second round. Leonsis is content with a step below that.

Orlando and Detroit have just had miserable draft luck/choices, but at least they were in position to pick franchise changing talent.

I don't like our talent. Kispert we're basically developing into a journeyman roleplayer for some other team. Rui is what he is, which is disappointing. I do like Deni's potential, but I'm very doubtful he becomes an all-star level player.

I'm afraid you are right on both Terd mediocrity goals and Tommy's draft acumen. The way I see it, the Wiz need to swing for the fences in this draft and look to obtain talent with all-star upside potential...Hence the rumors of trying to trade up for Ivey make sense.

Post #325 » by **nate33** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:54 pm

Dark Faze wrote: Kispert we're basically developing into a journeyman roleplayer for some other team.

Agreed. He is a fine pick for a winning team who is looking for competent depth at a cheap cost. But his next contract is likely to be MLE-sized or less, which means he will almost surely depart via free agency when his rookie contract is up.

But to be fair, it's not often you find a long term building block with the #15 pick. Getting 4 solid seasons of play at a cheap cost is still a pretty good outcome.

FAH1223 · Post #326 » by **FAH1223** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:58 pm

payitforward wrote:We have two all star level players? Who are they?

9 and 20 · Post #327 » by **9 and 20** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:54 pm

Dark Faze wrote:There are many bad jobs but Leonsis is pretty uniquely terrible in terms of his attempts to force a near-permanent state of mediocrity. In fact, it's not mediocrity. I'd consider mediocrity a permanent 6-8 seed caliber team that occasionally sees the second round. Leonsis is content with a step below that.

Orlando and Detroit have just had miserable draft luck/choices, but at least they were in position to pick franchise changing talent.

I don't like our talent. Kispert we're basically developing into a journeyman roleplayer for some other team. Rui is what he is, which is disappointing. I do like Deni's potential, but I'm very doubtful he becomes an all-star level player.

Orlando deserves decades of loserdom after getting Shaq, then Webber/Penny Hardaway, then Dwight Howard.

Our number one picks have been John Wall and Kwame Brown.

Detroit can eat it too. Ben Wallace was a beast and Rasheed was hilarious. They stole Rip from us though.

You're right about Terd. He's shooting for that 9/10 seed and happy with 11th and a little excitement at the end of the year.

Dat2U · Post #328 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:32 pm

payitforward wrote:We have two all star level players? Who are they?

We might have one all-star. Maybe moving back off the ball helps Beal and he rebounds next year.

Porzingis was very good in his short stint with the Wizards but I wouldn't consider him an all-star, probably a notch below that though if he can stay healthy & productive. Big ifs.

No one else on the currently roster will likely ever sniff an all-star game.

Dat2U · Post #329 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:46 pm

9 and 20 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:There are many bad jobs but Leonsis is pretty uniquely terrible in terms of his attempts to force a near-permanent state of mediocrity. In fact, it's not mediocrity. I'd consider mediocrity a permanent 6-8 seed caliber team that occasionally sees the second round. Leonsis is content with a step below that.

Orlando and Detroit have just had miserable draft luck/choices, but at least they were in position to pick franchise changing talent.

I don't like our talent. Kispert we're basically developing into a journeyman roleplayer for some other team. Rui is what he is, which is disappointing. I do like Deni's potential, but I'm very doubtful he becomes an all-star level player.

Orlando deserves decades of loserdom after getting Shaq, then Webber/Penny Hardaway, then Dwight Howard.

Our number one picks have been John Wall and Kwame Brown.

Detroit can eat it too. Ben Wallace was a beast and Rasheed was hilarious. They stole Rip from us i though.

You're right about Terd. He's shooting for that 9/10 seed and happy with 11th and a little excitement at the end of the year.

I do think they aim a little higher. The ultimate goal is conference finals since the franchise hasn't been there in ages but truly they'd be more than pleased at a 2nd round appearance and deem it a very successful season. Making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round is satisfactory. Losing in the play-in or just missing it means we are close and just need another key piece. It takes being bad and non-competitive for Leonsis to really want to change it up.

payitforward · Post #330 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:46 pm

I thought Tommy was supposed to be talking to the media this morning -- or was that just one more example of quintin Mayo's "insider ignorance" ??

FAH1223 · Post #331 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:16 pm

payitforward wrote:I thought Tommy was supposed to be talking to the media this morning -- or was that just one more example of quintin Mayo's "insider ignorance" ??

He's speaking now

9 and 20 · Post #332 » by **9 and 20** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:18 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
payitforward wrote:I thought Tommy was supposed to be talking to the media this morning -- or was that just one more example of quintin Mayo's "insider ignorance" ??

He's speaking now

I saw various quotes from this but didn't watch it. The quotes were all fairly meaningless I thought. No big announcements. What was the point? Terd told him he needs to be seen or heard publicly more often?

Benjammin · Post #333 » by **Benjammin** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:19 pm

Supposedly Tommy said, "I think one of our best defenders is Bradley Beal — we’ve asked him to do a lot over the years.” Asking and receiving are two different things.

TGW · Post #334 » by **TGW** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:21 pm

How much of a leash does Sheppard get before he's replaced? He's in year four of a rebuild, and there's a good chance the team doesn't make the playoffs again. How much mediocrity is Turd going to accept before he gets a real GM?

FAH1223 · Post #335 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:23 pm

TGW wrote:How much of a leash does Sheppard get before he's replaced? He's in year four of a rebuild, and there's a good chance the team doesn't make the playoffs again. How much mediocrity is Turd going to accept before he gets a real GM?

Unfortunately, he's got a long leash. He just got that extension in November and a new title.

Benjammin · Post #336 » by **Benjammin** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:32 pm

Another quote: “I know Bradley Beal is the kind of guy you build your franchise around.” If he means the kind of guy, then sure. If he means THE guy, then no.

FAH1223 · Post #337 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:09 pm

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80sballboy · Post #338 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:17 pm

A lot of vague comments and maybe 1/2 truths at best. That's what a GM is supposed to do before the draft.

Post #339 » by **nate33** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:06 pm

TGW wrote:How much of a leash does Sheppard get before he's replaced? He's in year four of a rebuild, and there's a good chance the team doesn't make the playoffs again. How much mediocrity is Turd going to accept before he gets a real GM?

Well, Year 4 hasn't actually started yet, so it has only been 3 years. He was handed a team with just Beal, the 9th pick in the 2019 draft, Troy Brown Jr., Thomas Bryant, Sato's RFA rights, and John "worst contract in the league" Wall.

How fast of a rebuild do you expect with that talent level? Particularly with Ted's ridiculous "never tank" mandate.

NatP4 · Post #340 » by **NatP4** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:10 pm

80sballboy wrote:A lot of vague comments and maybe 1/2 truths at best. That's what a GM is supposed to do before the draft.

This.

I did find the part about pre draft workouts interesting. Said he doesn’t really pay attention to the workout/on court part, brings guys in for the interviews and to get a feel for their character. Mentioned sneaking different people in throughout the day to interact with the player and asked the media to keep that info “in the room”.