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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#401 » by payitforward » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:19 pm

If Bertans winds up somewhere else, we will be in a weird situation -- yet, we'll have quite a lot of flexibility.

We'll have 10 guaranteed salaries with Bonga's option for just under $102m. I should think we'd sign Mathews for @$1m. If we make our existing picks, that would give us 13 players for just over $107m.

In that case, we would have flexibility to sign a FA -- most likely at the 4, where Bertans had played.

We'd also be able to accommodate one more rookie -- giving us another reason to think about trading down (depending, obviously, on who was available at #9).

Alternatively, we might re-sign Napier. Or... extend Pasecniks...?...:(

Whereupon, turn to the couple of 2-way players we'd be able to sign.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#402 » by payitforward » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:23 pm

But... I think he will not wind up elsewhere; he'll re-sign with the Wizards. My guess is that an informal agreement with his agent was reached around the trade deadline in February.

Otherwise, how could we have turned down a first round pick in exchange for Davis? It would have been foolish & non-trivial Front Office error.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#403 » by nate33 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:44 pm

payitforward wrote:If Bertans winds up somewhere else, we will be in a weird situation -- yet, we'll have quite a lot of flexibility.

We'll have 10 guaranteed salaries with Bonga's option for just under $102m. I should think we'd sign Mathews for @$1m. If we make our existing picks, that would give us 13 players for just over $107m.

In that case, we would have flexibility to sign a FA -- most likely at the 4, where Bertans had played.

We'd also be able to accommodate one more rookie -- giving us another reason to think about trading down (depending, obviously, on who was available at #9).

Alternatively, we might re-sign Napier. Or... extend Pasecniks...?...:(

Whereupon, turn to the couple of 2-way players we'd be able to sign.

If they don't sign Bertans, you can be pretty darn sure that they will sign a veteran with the MLE. They're not going into the season with just Beal, Wall and Ish over the age of 23.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#404 » by Kanyewest » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:45 am

payitforward wrote:But... I think he will not wind up elsewhere; he'll re-sign with the Wizards. My guess is that an informal agreement with his agent was reached around the trade deadline in February.

Otherwise, how could we have turned down a first round pick in exchange for Davis? It would have been foolish & non-trivial Front Office error.


The important thing now is not to overpay Bertans just because the Wizards didn't end up trading him for a 1st round pick- although I agree if that's the case, it will look bad.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#405 » by payitforward » Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:49 am

nate33 wrote:
payitforward wrote:If Bertans winds up somewhere else, we will be in a weird situation -- yet, we'll have quite a lot of flexibility.

We'll have 10 guaranteed salaries with Bonga's option for just under $102m. I should think we'd sign Mathews for @$1m. If we make our existing picks, that would give us 13 players for just over $107m.

In that case, we would have flexibility to sign a FA -- most likely at the 4, where Bertans had played.

We'd also be able to accommodate one more rookie -- giving us another reason to think about trading down (depending, obviously, on who was available at #9).

Alternatively, we might re-sign Napier. Or... extend Pasecniks...?...:(

Whereupon, turn to the couple of 2-way players we'd be able to sign.

If they don't sign Bertans, you can be pretty darn sure that they will sign a veteran with the MLE. They're not going into the season with just Beal, Wall and Ish over the age of 23.

Absolutely! The problem will be to find the right guy.

But, as I say, I'd be pretty surprised if this is not mostly worked with Davis behind the scenes. From a business POV it's hard to imagine the weeks before the trade deadline didn't include figuring all that out -- actually, if it didn't, I'd call that incompetence.

edit: think about it -- the guy & his agent won't commit for next year, which can only mean they're looking for the best possible deal & there's a good chance we lose him. Now someone offers me a R1 pick for him -- I turn that down? No.

If I have to pay top dollar to keep him, & I'm willing to do it... hell, why not get a R1 pick in the bargain!
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#406 » by The Consiglieri » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:48 am

payitforward wrote:But... I think he will not wind up elsewhere; he'll re-sign with the Wizards. My guess is that an informal agreement with his agent was reached around the trade deadline in February.

Otherwise, how could we have turned down a first round pick in exchange for Davis? It would have been foolish & non-trivial Front Office error.


Isn't that how we roll though? Hell, historically it's been our motto.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#407 » by bsilver » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:20 pm

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bsilver wrote:Not unexpected, but there will be a lot of competition for Bertans. Atlanta has lots of cap room, and could make it difficult for us to match a big offer. otoh, Bertans seems to like it here because he get a lot of playing time and has a big role. If playing for a good team is a factor, then the Suns would be tempting since they showed a lot of potential in the bubble.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/sources-hawks-knicks-and-suns-among-teams-pursue-davis-bertans-free-agency


Not buying it. The Suns arent going to throw away a max spot in the 21 draft class to upgrade from Saric (RFA) to Bertans. ATL is possible, but I just dont see them dumping 15M into a backup PF that doesnt compliment Collins.

Not sure what you mean by "21 draft class". 21 free agent class? If so, I get the point. But there's no guarantees and Bertans would help the Suns now, and they may believe they're ready to contend next season.

Bertans would fit well with Atlanta. They currently have no stretch 4/5s. More balance is needed. Trae Young is taking too high a % of the 3s. I don't think he would be playing much while Collins is playing PF. More likely when Collins is out, or playing smaller ball C. Atlanta has so much cap space, 15M would barely make a dent. They'll spend the money somewhere.
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#408 » by payitforward » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:10 pm

The Consiglieri wrote:
payitforward wrote:But... I think he will not wind up elsewhere; he'll re-sign with the Wizards. My guess is that an informal agreement with his agent was reached around the trade deadline in February.

Otherwise, how could we have turned down a first round pick in exchange for Davis? It would have been foolish & non-trivial Front Office error.

Isn't that how we roll though? Hell, historically it's been our motto.

:) But, we haven't seen Tommy do it yet -- so there's hope!
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Re: Wizards trade for Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#409 » by FAH1223 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:37 pm

nate33 wrote:
payitforward wrote:If Bertans winds up somewhere else, we will be in a weird situation -- yet, we'll have quite a lot of flexibility.

We'll have 10 guaranteed salaries with Bonga's option for just under $102m. I should think we'd sign Mathews for @$1m. If we make our existing picks, that would give us 13 players for just over $107m.

In that case, we would have flexibility to sign a FA -- most likely at the 4, where Bertans had played.

We'd also be able to accommodate one more rookie -- giving us another reason to think about trading down (depending, obviously, on who was available at #9).

Alternatively, we might re-sign Napier. Or... extend Pasecniks...?...:(

Whereupon, turn to the couple of 2-way players we'd be able to sign.

If they don't sign Bertans, you can be pretty darn sure that they will sign a veteran with the MLE. They're not going into the season with just Beal, Wall and Ish over the age of 23.


Wow. I forgot how young this team is.
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