payitforward wrote:I have no interest in either Caris Lavert or Spencer Dinwiddie (innovative entrepreneur tho he seems to be). They are similar in having had a couple of good years followed by volume shooting & a decline in their numbers/percentages (points went up of course).
I'd love to have Allen, naturally, but he is not a return for Beal.
If this is anything more than a rumor (reflecting something Brooklyn would like to do), I'll be shocked. If it were to happen, Brooklyn would have to get another team involved; somehow it'd have to be structured so that we mostly took back high R1 picks.
Would be really weird; I find it hard to believe.
I kinda like both Dinwiddie and Lavert, but... I'd be really hesitant to trade for either one. Lavert's getting paid an average of 17.5 mil per year for the next 3 seasons - that's too much for an injury-prone wing who's never really excelled, and I don't trust Dinwiddie trying to change the compensation system while being a stat accumulator who can't make 3's. I'd stay away from both of them. I do like Allen, but he'll be a free agent after this season and doesn't have a lot of trade value.
Well, I suppose "kinda like" is faint praise, but even so it was odd to read your descriptions of the 2 guys that followed!
You covered my "no interest" remark -- Lavert makes too much, Dinwiddie can't be predicted so probably does too.
Plus, the shape of the trade makes sense for them but not us. Love Jarrett Allen, but we'd need to trade front court players for him, not Beal.
If there's anything to the rumor, it indicates that Brooklyn wants to go all in -- to win a title or at least win the East & try to get a title. Makes sense in that the previously dominant team in the West is no longer, & nobody in the East looks unbeatable. Not that I think they'd get to their goal, I don't.
But, if you're going all in, then you need to trade big pieces of your future
for the benefit in the present that you're after. Allen fits that paradigm, but the other guys don't. It would take at the very least a couple of high draft picks plus Allen just to make it worth starting the conversation.
Only... they don't have them, which is why I suggested that a 3d team would have to be involved.
Remember -- if you don't like the post above: blame Doc not me.