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2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:13 am
by penbeast0
Does it seem to anyone else that there are a number of teams who have signed several 2-way players to contracts and the Wizards are falling a bit behind? Who should we be after?

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:44 am
by closg00
Garrison Matthews has one slot, the other is open, I suppose they are going to give the other spot to one of the camp invites.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:19 pm
by AWIZZINGBULLET
penbeast0 wrote:Does it seem to anyone else that there are a number of teams who have signed several 2-way players to contracts and the Wizards are falling a bit behind? Who should we be after?



Only Detroit and Minnesota have signed more than two players to two-way contracts, unless I missed a team; the majority of teams have given out two-way contracts to one or two players, with the numbers being almost even.

The Wizards signed Garrison Matthews.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:13 pm
by payitforward
After the draft, we signed Corey Davis, Jr. & Armoni Brooks -- both out of U. of Houston. They were on our SL team, but I don't recollect them playing or, if either of them did play, doing anything much.

To me, Brooks looks like an interesting prospect. He's a 6'3" shooting guard who turned 21 in June -- he entered the draft after his 3d year. Armoni Brooks's college numbers as a Sophomore & Junior were very very good. A few things stick out:

1) he shoots a lot of 3's, & makes a very high % of them (204-508 combined Sophomore & Junior seasons: just over 40%).
2) he rebounds extremely well for a guard: 8.2 per 40 minutes as a Junior, & only slightly fewer his first 2 years.
3) he does not turn the ball over. I mean almost never! -- 1 TO per 40 minutes his last 2 years.
4) he doesn't foul either: 2.35 fouls per 40 minutes his last 2 years.
5) OTOH, he manages 1 assist per 40 minutes.

Brooks looks like a guy who could have a pretty good NBA career. I'll be happy if he winds up our 2d 2-way player.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:30 pm
by closg00
payitforward wrote:After the draft, we signed Corey Davis, Jr. & Armoni Brooks -- both out of U. of Houston. They were on our SL team, but I don't recollect them playing or, if either of them did play, doing anything much.

To me, Brooks looks like an interesting prospect. He's a 6'3" shooting guard who turned 21 in June -- he entered the draft after his 3d year. Armoni Brooks's college numbers as a Sophomore & Junior were very very good. A few things stick out:

1) he shoots a lot of 3's, & makes a very high % of them (204-508 combined Sophomore & Junior seasons: just over 40%).
2) he rebounds extremely well for a guard: 8.2 per 40 minutes as a Junior, & only slightly fewer his first 2 years.
3) he does not turn the ball over. I mean almost never! -- 1 TO per 40 minutes his last 2 years.
4) he doesn't foul either: 2.35 fouls per 40 minutes his last 2 years.
5) OTOH, he manages 1 assist per 40 minutes.

Brooks looks like a guy who could have a pretty good NBA career. I'll be happy if he winds up our 2d 2-way player.


FWIW, the Raps had Brooks in for a pre-draft workout and nothing panned-out with them.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:23 pm
by payitforward
Toronto had one pick in this draft -- #59. I assume he was under consideration. They took a big instead.

Perhaps they would have signed him undrafted had Tommy Sheppard not gotten there first?

If Masai Ujiri's staff was interested in him, I think even better of the kid! :)

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:19 pm
by BearlyBallin
LA waived 22 yr old, Aric Holman, 6-10 PF, reportedly to make room for Dwight Howard. I hope we consider giving him a 2-way G-League contract. Saw somewhere he has a 7’2” wingspan.

“Holman had a Player Efficiency Rating (PER) that ranked Top 10 in his conference while also finishing Top 5 in box plus-minus two years in a row. He ranked Top 10 in blocks per game among all players in the SEC for three consecutive seasons and improved his three-pointers per game each season in college, connecting on 43.3 percent of his outside shots in his final two years.”
From Bryan Kalbrosky, HoopsHype


Watch on YouTube

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:24 am
by closg00
Holman looks like he can do everything better than Mo and then-some, we should definitely take him on a two-way.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:20 am
by payitforward
Holman played on the same team with Quinndary Weatherspoon, whom San Antonio took at #49. He had a terrific Junior year then tailed off some as a Senior. He could be a candidate -- why not?

I really like Weatherspoon, whom I think has a chance to be a solid NBA player (more of a chance, imo, than Admiral). So, yeah, I give Holman a plus just for playing pretty well on the same team. Makes no sense, but... sign him!

Edit: btw, I'm not sure the Lakers are really letting go of Holman: I think they'll try to sign him to their G League team. If/when Howard implodes, Holman would be back.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:36 pm
by payitforward
After the draft we signed -- or it was reported that we did -- Armoni Brooks to... some kind of deal. Now I see that the Hawks have signed him to an Exhibit 10 contract. So... maybe not?

Brooks is a SG out of U of Houston. Shot the 3 well, rebounds well for a guard, & basically never turns it over. I thought he was kind of promising & might wind up as our second 2-way.

Lets see how he turns out in Atlanta.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:46 pm
by BearlyBallin
I had hopes for Armoni Brooks as well, but he really didn’t have a good showing in Vegas SL for the Wizards. It felt like he came out starting that first game really nervous and seemed to me to be rushing everything. Then I believe the second game he played, things just got worst as he kept throwing up 3’s and only ended up making one attempt. I think in 3 games he was 4 for 24, he did grab a few rebounds but I can’t recall him making an assist even though I think he was credited with one.

Not saying he can’t show up in Atlanta, just saying I wished he had shown something with the Wiz in Vegas.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:59 pm
by Ruzious
BearlyBallin wrote:I had hopes for Armonie Brooks as well, but he really didn’t have a good showing in Vegas SL for the Wizards. It felt like he came out starting that first game really nervous and seemed to me to be rushing everything. Then I believe the second game he played, things just got worst as he kept throwing up 3’s and only ended up making one attempt. I think in 3 games he was 4 for 24, he did grab a few rebounds but I can’t recall him making an assist even though I think he was credited with one.

Not saying he can’t show up in Atlanta, just saying I wished he had shown something with the Wiz in Vegas.

Just gotta figure the pressure on him to dress well and look stylish - if he could get through that with a name like that - he's gotta be a mentally tough player. Like the saying goes, looking the part is half the battle. If you can actually play, that's just a bonus. No?

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:33 pm
by payitforward
That's why I wish him well in Atlanta, Ruz -- to dress well Armoni will need moni !!

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:38 pm
by Ruzious
BearlyBallin wrote:LA waived 22 yr old, Aric Holman, 6-10 PF, reportedly to make room for Dwight Howard. I hope we consider giving him a 2-way G-League contract. Saw somewhere he has a 7’2” wingspan.

“Holman had a Player Efficiency Rating (PER) that ranked Top 10 in his conference while also finishing Top 5 in box plus-minus two years in a row. He ranked Top 10 in blocks per game among all players in the SEC for three consecutive seasons and improved his three-pointers per game each season in college, connecting on 43.3 percent of his outside shots in his final two years.”
From Bryan Kalbrosky, HoopsHype


Scouting reports said he had a rep for being a bit lazy, but I don't get that impression about him for the videos and quotes from him. He's got an intriguing set of skills for a player his size.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:38 am
by payitforward
The Mavs have grabbed Aric Holman. Not clear what kind of contract they're going to give him.

Re: 2-way contracts

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:36 am
by closg00
Damn, oh-well