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Post#61 » by Kanyewest » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:48 pm

FAH1223 wrote:EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW


Time to get a time machine and do it.
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Post#62 » by Frichuela » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:48 pm

FAH1223 wrote:EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW


Amen. Not sure what they are waiting for!!
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Post#63 » by Kanyewest » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:49 pm

Frichuela wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW


Amen. Not sure what they are waiting for!!


Maybe they will give that salary from the disabled exception from Thomas Bryant as a starting point?
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Post#64 » by nate33 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:39 pm

Frichuela wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW


Amen. Not sure what they are waiting for!!

Two-way contracts can't be extended. They can be converted to full contracts (at a vet minimum salary), but there really isn't a reason to do so. As long as Mathews stays with the team, he is being paid vet minimum money, only he doesn't actually take up a roster slot.
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Post#65 » by Ruzious » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:37 pm

NatP4 wrote:If you adjust to players that have played atleast 50 minutes this season, and sort by “Total on/off” instead of “War”(due to lack of playing time), Garrison Mathews has been the 2nd best player in the NBA. If you do the same thing for 19-20, Mathews comes in at 21st.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Yeah, set it to a minimum of 60 minutes, and he's number 2. Btw, #1 is Alec Burks - who I said was the most underrated free agent in the offseason. There are some oddball names in there - like DJ Wilson at 9 and John Konchar at 6. Konchar's actually a very interesting player, but Wilson... meh.
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Re: Garrison Mathews - Professional Shooter 

Post#66 » by NatP4 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:
NatP4 wrote:If you adjust to players that have played atleast 50 minutes this season, and sort by “Total on/off” instead of “War”(due to lack of playing time), Garrison Mathews has been the 2nd best player in the NBA. If you do the same thing for 19-20, Mathews comes in at 21st.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Yeah, set it to a minimum of 60 minutes, and he's number 2. Btw, #1 is Alec Burks - who I said was the most underrated free agent in the offseason. There are some oddball names in there - like DJ Wilson at 9 and John Konchar at 6. Konchar's actually a very interesting player, but Wilson... meh.


John Collins and Deandre Hunter are also in that top 30 :o

I have no clue who Konchar is, but it looks like he was also very good in 19-20, like Mathews.
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Re: Garrison Mathews - Professional Shooter 

Post#67 » by Ruzious » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:48 pm

NatP4 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
NatP4 wrote:If you adjust to players that have played atleast 50 minutes this season, and sort by “Total on/off” instead of “War”(due to lack of playing time), Garrison Mathews has been the 2nd best player in the NBA. If you do the same thing for 19-20, Mathews comes in at 21st.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

Yeah, set it to a minimum of 60 minutes, and he's number 2. Btw, #1 is Alec Burks - who I said was the most underrated free agent in the offseason. There are some oddball names in there - like DJ Wilson at 9 and John Konchar at 6. Konchar's actually a very interesting player, but Wilson... meh.


John Collins and Deandre Hunter are also in that top 30 :o

I have no clue who Konchar is, but it looks like he was also very good in 19-20, like Mathews.

Honestly, i don't think I ever saw Konchar play, but statistically he does everything but score.

Collins and Hunter... hmm, I'm gonna post something in the trade thread.
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Post#68 » by EDC10 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:38 pm

Great thing about him is that he not only spaces the floor but he really plays hard. He cuts hard, comes off screens hard and plays hard on defense. His drives have been a little out of control at times, but you can't fault his aggression

Its not like he can only space the floor but is a liability on the other end, he definitely holds his own on defense.
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Post#69 » by payitforward » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:18 am

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:EXTEND HIS CONTRACT NOW


Amen. Not sure what they are waiting for!!

Two-way contracts can't be extended. They can be converted to full contracts (at a vet minimum salary), but there really isn't a reason to do so. As long as Mathews stays with the team, he is being paid vet minimum money, only he doesn't actually take up a roster slot.

Until this season, 2-way players were limited to 45 days with their NBA team. That's "days" not games.

This year, b/c of Covid, the rules have been changed temporarily. A 2-way player may play for his NBA team in up to 50 games. That's games not "days."

In that sense, you are right that there is no reason to convert Mathews right now, but there might be a reason later in the season.

The other -- & to me more important -- question is whether, aside from being "converted," a 2-way contract can be "replaced" with a regular contract that is longer-term & whose terms are, therefore, different from those of a veteran minimum deal?

If so, then there might well be a reason to give Garrison a new deal right now -- using the Injured Player Exception, assuming we get it. We would be able to control him for a few years.

Keep in mind that if he continues to play at a high level, we will face competition to retain him. We'll be able to match offers of course, but that might wind up being a more expensive way to proceed.

In short, if possible I'd sign him to a 3-year deal asap.
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Post#70 » by payitforward » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:21 am

payitforward wrote:When we signed Garrison Mathews undrafted last Summer, Dat's first comment was that he couldn't guard a chair, which I then turned into the claim that a chair had actually dunked on him....

I'm calling on Dat to check in here with an updated observation on Garrison Mathews. :)
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Re: Garrison Mathews - Professional Shooter 

Post#71 » by nate33 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:40 am

payitforward wrote:
payitforward wrote:When we signed Garrison Mathews undrafted last Summer, Dat's first comment was that he couldn't guard a chair, which I then turned into the claim that a chair had actually dunked on him....

I'm calling on Dat to check in here with an updated observation on Garrison Mathews. :)

For what it's worth, I think Mathews isn't that great of a defender on the ball. He bites on fakes and can get out of position. But he's a real hard worker off ball, he rotates well, closes out hard, and jumps the passing lanes. In this league, that's good enough, at least for the regular season. He's the perfect example of how even relatively bad defenders can be successful just by executing the scheme and working hard. It's why I have little tolerance for our defense being so awful. Yeah, we don't have great defensive personnel, but if our bad defenders merely worked as hard and as intelligently as Mathews, we'd have maybe the 20th ranked defense instead of the 27th.
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Post#72 » by WashWiz54 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:49 am

Garrison Mathews is the Taylor Heinecke of the Wizards organization. Considering I'm riding shotgun on that bandwagon, count me all in on Garrison's too. This kid has the skill, heart, and desire to make it. Hopefully he can be retained long-term when the season is over because he's the type of guy that you want on your squad.
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Re: Garrison Mathews - Professional Shooter 

Post#73 » by NatP4 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:47 am

I would say Mathews is our best defender after Bonga, good lateral quickness, high IQ, great effort. I would call him above average to average like Satoransky was.

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